Are naruto and sasuke equivlant or stronger than ems madara with kurama

Huzaifa

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Are these two equivalent to ems madara at vote? Naruto has nearly all of the yin chackra also as Minato gave it to him. Plus he has bsm. Sasuke has ps , so are the equal or stronger.
edit I am saying madara people like wtf not hashi
edit2 This is together people not alone
edit 3 I will argue they are as I need a good counter argument to be satisfied they ain't not being fanboy or anything.
 
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No c.c they're close though
Like why though? I would like a explanation so I can be convinced as Ik naruto doesn't have all of kurama but he has bsm. We know sasuke has ps with amertasu as a shield he can use. He can cloak on kurama. So aren't they equal or stronger?
 

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I dont think they are equal to those two.........yet.
 

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Like why though? I would like a explanation so I can be convinced as Ik naruto doesn't have all of kurama but he has bsm. We know sasuke has ps with amertasu as a shield he can use. He can cloak on kurama. So aren't they equal or stronger?

When they can take out hashirama SM summon.
 

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Madara's PS is more powerful, larger, & has two swords instead of one.

100% kurama has more chakra than yang kurama, & madara can completely deplete that reserve via large scale attacks if he chooses to.
 

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Alive Madara with Kyuubi > BSm naruto and EMS Sasuke at the same time.
 

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Madara's PS is more powerful, larger, & has two swords instead of one.

100% kurama has more chakra than yang kurama, & madara can completely deplete that reserve via large scale attacks if he chooses to.
Minato (yin kurama) gave majority of its chackra to naruto (yang kurama) Also can't they cloack it with sm which makes you much stronger? Madara cant.
 

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Madara is still stronger.
 

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Minato (yin kurama) gave majority of its chackra to naruto (yang kurama) Also can't they cloack it with sm which makes you much stronger? Madara cant.

Yin & yang are both two halfs of a whole, yang kurama is half the chakra of 100% kurama.

SM helps naruto's tbb size, that's essentially it. But madara doesnt have to worry about kurama's chakra use so he can create tbbs of a similar size or even throw a susanoo sword in there to maximize its potential.
 

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It depends on how you look at it. If you mean Individually, then IMO I'd say close but no. Together they have the power to topple the SO6P so if you count them together than yes they could beat EMS Madara with Kurama.

Keep in mind just because Kurama was 100% When Madara controlled him doesn't equal stronger than BM Naruto. Remember, a bijuu is stronger when they have a host (Jinchuriki) I'd say BSM Naruto is as stronger as 100% Kyuubi without host, or at least close.

Sasuke's PS may not be as large as Madara, but the 1 sword it produces was enough to topple the Rikudo's sword (albiet with Sage chakra incorporated) Size isn't everything.

So separately no. Together? Yes
 

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They are stronger.
1) 2 brains
2) Perfect teamwork
3) More versatile
4) Sasuke & Naruto can display more firepower with 50% kurama and PS than madara with w/ 100 % (the diff is chakra anyway which doesn't affect the strength of the tech).
 

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i dnt knw but its not likely since madara is tactically better and experience of battling all out and being pushed to the limit helps him a lot since hashirama is stronger than ems madara that validates my point of madara being used to giving his all...but i do think unlike the juubi the kyuubi cant shed its skin to avoid amaterasu so i think the kyuubi is beat that way or multiple summon like aoda, and 3 giant toads+hawk+2 toad sages madara will is on another level so i do believe he could withstand their assault for a minute but its too hard to say who wins but i dnt think the kyuubi is a factor at all there is too many ways for it to be killed
 

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