Itachi still stomps the sannin

[The Necromancer]

i said leave it at that bro, don't want you to be the one who argues the capabilities of the Sage.

we already saw what non Senjutsu attacks do to an inferior ten tails Jinchuuriki, who at his base was NOTHING compared to the guy who took on the Juubi alone and remains to be nothing after he became a Jinchuuriki (compared to the guy who has "creation of all things" "Izanagi" and can use them at will).

Rule #1 about the Sage, never mention him in ANY comparison U_U, EVER.

Onmyoudon is not passive and requires the medium to work. Secondly it does not work on non-ninjutsu techniques (ie: Tsukuyomi and Totsuka) and lastly Tsukuyomi is unbreakable and the Sage has no feats nor hype to suggest he can break it (like it or not.)

Itachi in no way can get the Sage into tsukuyomi, but should the sage stand there and allow Itachi to Tsukuyomi him, he will not escape. It's as simple as that unless you would like to post scans suggesting otherwise.

No the problem is you think someone with Rinnengan/EMS is going to even get trapped in a MS technique which technically came from the sage. Powerful dojutsu means immidiate breaking out of Tsyokyomi. Sasuke 3T was able to break out of it so wtf are you smoking.

Talking about yata like the sage didnt make the damn thing. Totsuka has to stab its victim in order to seal. one of the Sages CT and its neg diff to the Sage. He struggled to get out of Nagatos CT and needed help. Dont make yourself look like this, friendly word of advice.

God you're ****ing illiterate. I AM NOT COMPARING THIS AS A VS. THREAD. And the bold just proves how ignorant you are of the manga. I'm done here. Take my -rep and return if if you'd like.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Onmyoudon is not passive and requires the medium to work. Secondly it does not work on non-ninjutsu techniques (ie: Tsukuyomi and Totsuka) and lastly Tsukuyomi is unbreakable and the Sage has no feats nor hype to suggest he can break it (like it or not.)

Itachi in no way can get the Sage into tsukuyomi, but should the sage stand there and allow Itachi to Tsukuyomi him, he will not escape. It's as simple as that unless you would like to post scans suggesting otherwise.

i knew it will get down to that, the oldest/most repeated point in most arguments "no feats", ok i'm done here :heh:

i tell him the guy can create stuff out of nothing/alter reality, yet you need a scan that proves he can break out of Genjutsu/Tsukuyomi :yeah: even though no such thing existed at his time and his understanding/knowledge of jutsu is unparalleled + again he can alter reality but, somehow he can't escape a Genjutsu ........................ yep i'm done.

 

[TheEvilOne]

In 1vs1 they all can push Itachi to mid diff, considering he has no chance to defeat them without the MS. In 3vs1 Itachi gets raped.

 

[Navado]

Are you implying Itachi has a chance in hell against the Sage of the Six Paths?

Come on now we know he cant. But I Don't think thats what the dude meant. If it was I do believe itachi would put up a good fight, guy still has the ultimate defense which blocks all attacks and the sword of totsuga. Plus I cant stress this enough itachi was a genius since age 7, so if the sage makes a mistake itachi will capitalize. But the only thing is im thinking that blade and the mirror were the sage's anyway. In the end all die before the true god of shinobi. Itachi included.
Now I believe the guy meant that being a sage aka having sage mode does not make you impervious to death (nore does being the god of shinobi) and as such itachi would still give jariyah the business. Which I 100 percent agree with. Speed dont mean shit with the yata mirror cuz it blocks EVERYTHING, HE has no counter for totsuga and didn't he get caught in a genjutsu with pain? All it takes is an instant in a genjustu for itachi to have months to work with. Itachi solo's mid dif. Dont talk about when he said jariyah would beat him either he didnt really want to fight he wanted to see sasuke. That was most likely to protect his cover. Cuz he would later say the two would have a draw at best.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

In 1vs1 they all can push Itachi to mid diff, considering he has no chance to defeat them without the MS. In 3vs1 Itachi gets raped.

Susanoo doesn't require MS still stomps Tsunade and Oro (Jman has shadow clones so he will last a bit longer but still lose)
though I admit together they can put up a good fight

 

[KidGamer65]

Does being the sage mean Totsuka doesn't work on him?
Does being the sage mean RDS doesn't work on him?
Does being the sage mean being stabbed in the heart with a Kunai doesn't work on him?

Being the sage doesn't mean shit when it's cannon that a jutsu is crippling and unbreakable by everyone but a sibling. It only means it's nearly impossible to get him into Tsukuyomi. But once he's in, it's game over.

Yeah, pretty sure that Tsukuyomi can be broken by anyone with Uchiha Blood, which includes Rikudo.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Yeah, pretty sure that Tsukuyomi can be broken by anyone with Uchiha Blood, which includes Rikudo.

I guess that's why Sasuke the 3rd strongest Uchiha ever had a hard time breaking it when Itachi was holding back and wasn't even serious

 

[KidGamer65]

I guess that's why Sasuke the 3rd strongest Uchiha ever had a hard time breaking it when Itachi was holding back and wasn't even serious

Well Rikudo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sasuke.

Your point?

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Well Rikudo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sasuke.

Your point?

1 Itachi was still toying around / holding back

2 Sasuke used his sharingan and CS2 (the sage hasn't got any of these)

3 there's no proof that Itachi didn't simply let Sasuke break it (we know he didn't want to kill Sasuke)

4 It was a weakened dying Itachi

 

[FemmeFatale]

:''''( so you're saying Tsunade alone stands a chance against Ita?

Im saying she doesn't get stomped, she would push his limited. He she will probably lose, but I doubt if she would die, because he would be too messed up to finsh her off.

@Tera Path
seeing as how the yinseal is sealed chakra, and in order to place a victim under genjutsu they much control the chakra flow directed at the person brain,Itachi isn't placing her under a genjutsu, The seal will act as a tailed beast, and disrupt her chakra.
And at the end of the day its a battle of chakra control, and itachi's chakra control isn't > Tsunade, so he isn't out controlling her own chakra

 

[KingHashirama]

Sanin > Itachi. Only person who we know was below Itachi was Orochimaru, and had big time to due with him not having his "normal body".

Plus, Itachi never "solo'd" Orochimaru. He simply caught him off-guard.

But the other 2 Sanin are portrayed above Itachi (Though i also believe Orochimaru with his normal body is above him). People act as if the Sanin were bunch of rookies, who haven't faced someone on Itachi's level... Sad and pathetic.

I mean the fact is that people have to limit Tsunade to simply taijutsu, taking out her ability of creating poisons and elixirs (which she was called the queen for).

For Jiraiya nothing is usually limited, but the scenarios are limited.

For Orochimaru, all you guys can do is post a scan of Itachi catching him off-guard.


On top of that most of you itachi supporters will act like the fight has to be face to face. Going against the characters themselves. X_X.

 

[Rike Senju]

Sanin > Itachi. Only person who we know was below Itachi was Orochimaru, and had big time to due with him not having his "normal body".

Plus, Itachi never "solo'd" Orochimaru. He simply caught him off-guard.

But the other 2 Sanin are portrayed above Itachi (Though i also believe Orochimaru with his normal body is above him). People act as if the Sanin were bunch of rookies, who haven't faced someone on Itachi's level... Sad and pathetic.

I mean the fact is that people have to limit Tsunade to simply taijutsu, taking out her ability of creating poisons and elixirs (which she was called the queen for).

For Jiraiya nothing is usually limited, but the scenarios are limited.

For Orochimaru, all you guys can do is post a scan of Itachi catching him off-guard.


On top of that most of you itachi supporters will act like the fight has to be face to face. Going against the characters themselves. X_X.

Only jiraiya has faced someone of itachi's level, which was pein. And even then he didn't face all of them at the same time. I really hate when itachi is overrated but itachi is just way above the sannin (individually). Kishi hyped them up way too much in part 1 just to become normal level ninjas in part 2.

 

[Strict]

In 1vs1 they all can push Itachi to mid diff, considering he has no chance to defeat them without the MS. In 3vs1 Itachi gets raped.

What? When 13 yr old 3T Itachi did babyshake Orochimaru? Individually, the Sannin are no match for him. He beats any team of two as I explained pretty objectively in another thread.

Itachi would push all three Sannin to high diff. I don't have the desire to give full particulars now. Just consider the fact how the teamwork of several Kage was needed to match the power of an incomplete Susanoo. Consider the fact that they will experience defeat with a single eye contact made during the whole fight, hence they are forced to avoid eye contact continuously, restricting their latitude and giving Itachi the advantage. Consider the fact, that, when they will avoid eye contact, they'll lose the only possibility to see Amaterasu coming through said eye contact (like Ay), when avoiding these flames will prove high difficult even when anticipating them within the brief moment of Itachi using it. And last but not least Susanoo, which Itachi uses with two spiritual weapons at V4.

With each Sannin being killed in the process, the difficult falls for Itachi. And until his utter exhaustion, Itachi's MS techniques are quite spammable.

 

[Navado]

i knew it will get down to that, the oldest/most repeated point in most arguments "no feats", ok i'm done here :heh:

i tell him the guy can create stuff out of nothing/alter reality, yet you need a scan that proves he can break out of Genjutsu/Tsukuyomi :yeah: even though no such thing existed at his time and his understanding/knowledge of jutsu is unparalleled + again he can alter reality but, somehow he can't escape a Genjutsu ........................ yep i'm done.

Guess I was wrong about what he meant. But I think your taking things too literally, in the wrong places. Literally the sage was a uhchiha and a senju together before there were uchiha and senju, and manipulating reality isn't necessarily changing the principles of the entire, or main reality or universe but creating a small or seperate reality for yourself and Others. Uhcihas do this all the time with genjutsu and MS. Isanagi, izunami... Those are probably very low grade versions of a renni tensei and some unknown rinnegan ability. Off subject but legends and myths are almost always more spectacular or understandable (for the time period), versions of an actual event

Are you implying Itachi has a chance in hell against the Sage of the Six Paths?

Come on now we know he cant. But I Don't think thats what the dude meant. If it was I do believe itachi would put up a good fight, guy still has the ultimate defense which blocks all attacks and the sword of totsuga. Plus I cant stress this enough itachi was a genius since age 7, so if the sage makes a mistake itachi will capitalize. But the only thing is im thinking that blade and the mirror were the sage's anyway. In the end all die before the true god of shinobi. Itachi included.
Now I believe the guy meant that being a sage aka having sage mode does not make you impervious to death (nore does being the god of shinobi) and as such itachi would still give jariyah the business. Which I 100 percent agree with. Speed dont mean shit with the yata mirror cuz it blocks EVERYTHING, HE has no counter for totsuga and didn't he get caught in a genjutsu with pain? All it takes is an instant in a genjustu for itachi to have months to work with. Itachi solo's mid dif. Dont talk about when he said jariyah would beat him either he didnt really want to fight he wanted to see sasuke. That was most likely to protect his cover. Cuz he would later say the two would have a draw at best.

 

[KingHashirama]

Only jiraiya has faced someone of itachi's level, which was pein. And even then he didn't face all of them at the same time. I really hate when itachi is overrated but itachi is just way above the sannin (individually). Kishi hyped them up way too much in part 1 just to become normal level ninjas in part 2.

Jiraiya > Pain. Are you going to try to go against character statements themselves? . Pain > Itachi.

Orochimaru was the only sanin who didn't recieve a "power-up". Other 2 are portrayed above Itachi.

Tsunade is the most respected kage out of the gokage.. yet u claimhe down graded them in part2?

 

[Strict]

Jiraiya > Pain. Are you going to try to go against character statements themselves? . Pain > Itachi.

Orochimaru was the only sanin who didn't recieve a "power-up". Other 2 are portrayed above Itachi

Your statement merely shows the lack of your understanding. Pain was the victor. But why Jiraiya would've turned the victor potentially when learning the secret behind Pain? Would the difference in their power change? No. Jiraiya could probably go for haunting Nagato himself, who was disabled. Jiraiya would not automatically turn stronger when knowing Nagato is the one moving the Path's. Jiraiya lost to a Pain who didn't fight at full power. That's reality.

 

[Navado]

Only jiraiya has faced someone of itachi's level, which was pein. And even then he didn't face all of them at the same time. I really hate when itachi is overrated but itachi is just way above the sannin (individually). Kishi hyped them up way too much in part 1 just to become normal level ninjas in part 2.

Thats exactly what it was. They were gods of part one but I think oro now is stronger than any of them, and the hype didnt hold up when $#it got real in part 2

 

[blazekev90]

What? When 13 yr old 3T Itachi did babyshake Orochimaru? Individually, the Sannin are no match for him. He beats any team of two as I explained pretty objectively in another thread.

Itachi would push all three Sannin to high diff. I don't have the desire to give full particulars now. Just consider the fact how the teamwork of several Kage was needed to match the power of an incomplete Susanoo. Consider the fact that they will experience defeat with a single eye contact made during the whole fight, hence they are forced to avoid eye contact continuously, restricting their latitude and giving Itachi the advantage. Consider the fact, that, when they will avoid eye contact, they'll lose the only possibility to see Amaterasu coming through said eye contact (like Ay), when avoiding these flames will prove high difficult even when anticipating them within the brief moment of Itachi using it. And last but not least Susanoo, which Itachi uses with two spiritual weapons at V4.

With each Sannin being killed in the process, the difficult falls for Itachi. And until his utter exhaustion, Itachi's MS techniques are quite spammable.

Since when does age matter? Naruto is holding the war together and he's 16. Please don't try to hype his age as if that changes anything.

Also, babyshake Orochimaru? I've seen no such thing. We witnessed Orochimaru standing face-to-face with Itachi, genjutsu specialist and being catch in a binding genjutsu. This could and would have been the outcome for anyone. So, hyping this incident as if he did something magical is laughable.

No, all three present Itachi pushes them low-moderate difficulty

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

dont even want to throw a sh!t over this thread

 

[Navado]

Jiraiya > Pain. Are you going to try to go against character statements themselves? . Pain > Itachi.

Orochimaru was the only sanin who didn't recieve a "power-up". Other 2 are portrayed above Itachi.

Tsunade is the most respected kage out of the gokage.. yet u claimhe down graded them in part2?

What the hell.. you do remember what orochimaru did in part 1 right. You do know that tsunade would be dead if oro had his hands back then right. You do remember jiriyah wasn't the genius in the group right. Orochimaru is THE STRONGEST SANIN