[Question] Why is Oda so harsh on Sanji?

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why we even argue man. The pirate hunter zoro is da s!@#. Took all of luffy's pain from Kuma. Sanji's a bad ass, f!@#ed up oz with a building and then tripped him in da face.
 

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He doesnt exactly go easy on Luffy and Zoro either
 

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He doesnt exactly go easy on Luffy and Zoro either
He seems to be bullying Sanji. If you're referring to Zoro's injuries : Sanji has had injuries, if you're referring to Luffy losing Ace, that's understandable but Oda did it for plot relevance, not to take the piss.
 

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He seems to be bullying Sanji. If you're referring to Zoro's injuries : Sanji has had injuries, if you're referring to Luffy losing Ace, that's understandable but Oda did it for plot relevance, not to take the piss.

Sanji is too awesome to be a nova, and dont worry bounties will increase. He's fighting big mom dude chill, he is gonna go ape s!@# all strawhats do.
 

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Well yeah, it is a running gag, but it is fitting. Sanji is not the sort of person to go out and cause a commotion, like Luffy and Zoro. He is Mr Prince, he is the bishop of the team. He goes diagonally when everyone goes straight forward, and works on the background to make that one crucial thing happen, besides taking out the big bad. Do not forget that, over the whole Arabasta Saga, Sanji's face was completely hidden, and he worked in the shadows up until the Casino scene. So his bounty is a demonstration of that, along with the fact that, above every one, Sanji would be the one most worked up about having a poorly drawn bounty picture, such as it makes sense Nami would pose for hers, and chopper would get a "pet" bounty.

Zoro, not Sanji, has an infamous popularity, with him being known through the whole Eastern Blue as the Pirate Hunter, and he has been with Luffy since the begining, only enhancing its infamy. But, most of all, he is a Supernova because everyone is extremely confused to find out he is not the captain, because he doesn't have the personality to follow. That's the image Zoro has to the government. Pointing out stuff that happened on the government's blind spot isn't a good argument, you have to look at it from their perspective, and Oda does a very good job at it, while still throwing the gags whenever he can.

I agree..also the cp9 arc when he opens the doors z.z
 
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I dont think Oda is trying to be harsh, i think hes making Sanji an unknown and mysterious guy within the straw hats. He's hardly the one who gets caught in trouble, hes always the sneaky one who noone notices, his bounty looks nothing like him, making it harder for people to identify him making him their lucky escape card.
 

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Usopp should be more of a worry than Sanji...
 

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Usopp should be more of a worry than Sanji...

This...

I don't really see any potential in that "pop green" stuff, he should go the sogeking route, or finally upgrade to a real gun.
 

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The Alabasta bounties case were Zoro grts 60 and Luffy 100 were quite correct coz even though Sanji played a crucial role in the arc what he did wasnt in the eyes of the WG and u get a bounty for going agnaist the marines and WG, Luffy defeated a Shichibukai(allied with the gvt) and Zoro defeated his best man(Daz had his own infamy as a bounty hunter), Zoro too already had a reputation that had even reached Baroque Works who were situated in the Grand line while he still only in East blue(just sayin but Luffy's infamy on its own is on a very minuscual part thanx to him recruiting "The Pirate Hunter" into his crew. The supanova part, yes maybe his power was worthy considering he is very close to Zoro but u know there are only 2 supanova who ain't captains and in anyway we never saw the supanova well enough to correctly say Sanji shld have been part of the group coz maybe the weakest of the SN is in the small gap btwn him and Zoro. I think for a first tym bounty him getting a 100mill wld have been too much and anyways when they last got bounties was in EL, it was a fair bounty in my eyes, I will agree that maybe he shld have passed Robin coz of his strenght and the whirlpool stroke of genius but maybe it wasny known and I think whe the marines gorven a bounty they consider also the pple in yo crew and how strong they are compared to u judging from the info they have so I wld hav e given similar figures if it were I who did the bounties.
I think Sanji has his moments to shyn and if it aint equal well thats just that coz even the fingers on yo hand are not equal just as it is in lyf.
 

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Dude you're looking too deep into it. Sanji has had a shitton of his moments. Too many to count and list, the only thing difference post skip is that he fought much stronger opponents than Zoro and Luffy so that you can blame Oda for matching him up against people he cant beat. But its not like Zoro would do any better against DD either. Oda I guess is using Sanji as the hype tool a bit during post skip because he needs a M3 to do so but cant use Zoro much due to his vow and refuses to use Luffy so yes in that regard its been tough on him. But at the same time the dude has had a crapload of moments where he shined.
 
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Dude you're looking too deep into it. Sanji has had a shitton of his moments. Too many to count and list, the only thing difference post skip is that he fought much stronger opponents than Zoro and Luffy so that you can blame Oda for matching him up against people he cant beat. But its not like Zoro would do any better against DD either. Oda I guess is using Sanji as the hype tool a bit during post skip because he needs a M3 to do so but cant use Zoro much due to his vow and refuses to use Luffy so yes in that regard its been tough on him. But at the same time the dude has had a crapload of moments where he shined.

I agree with ^^, Sanji has gotten some serious love post-timeskip.
 

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The Alabasta bounties case were Zoro grts 60 and Luffy 100 were quite correct coz even though Sanji played a crucial role in the arc what he did wasnt in the eyes of the WG and u get a bounty for going agnaist the marines and WG, Luffy defeated a Shichibukai(allied with the gvt) and Zoro defeated his best man(Daz had his own infamy as a bounty hunter), Zoro too already had a reputation that had even reached Baroque Works who were situated in the Grand line while he still only in East blue(just sayin but Luffy's infamy on its own is on a very minuscual part thanx to him recruiting "The Pirate Hunter" into his crew. The supanova part, yes maybe his power was worthy considering he is very close to Zoro but u know there are only 2 supanova who ain't captains and in anyway we never saw the supanova well enough to correctly say Sanji shld have been part of the group coz maybe the weakest of the SN is in the small gap btwn him and Zoro. I think for a first tym bounty him getting a 100mill wld have been too much and anyways when they last got bounties was in EL, it was a fair bounty in my eyes, I will agree that maybe he shld have passed Robin coz of his strenght and the whirlpool stroke of genius but maybe it wasny known and I think whe the marines gorven a bounty they consider also the pple in yo crew and how strong they are compared to u judging from the info they have so I wld hav e given similar figures if it were I who did the bounties.
I think Sanji has his moments to shyn and if it aint equal well thats just that coz even the fingers on yo hand are not equal just as it is in lyf.
All I'm gonna say he is defeated Bon Kurei who at the time had a bounty of 32,000,000
 

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Sanji is a very different character, Sanji is the type to investigate and to set things in motion. Zoro is more like a finisher.

Remember the times where he trashed ark Maxim and the casino in Alabasta, got on the sea train alone, he opened the gates of Justice and he commanded G5 etc. Those aren't things Zoro would do. Zoro is a relatively boring character, you won't see him most of the time but he appears when he has too and then you're certain that he will finish the fight rather quickly.

So actually he is a pretty useful character for Oda. As part of the monster trio, the only one that actually plans ahead. He can use Sanji so that Luffy and Zoro don't have to do tasks that would seem out of character. It would be weird if Luffy went back into Enies Lobby to open the gates. But because Sanji is more of a scout he also runs into danger faster Like Vergo, Mingo and Enel.

So I'm not too worried about Sanji he is getting his action, I think that Zoro is the one that needs more attention because we have barely seen him since Fishman island, he didn't do very memorable things. His thunder gets stolen by the increasing crew + friends like law and kin'emon and Franky decides to be a badass too for the last 2 arcs.
 
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