[VS] Current Sasuke, Current Oro and SM Kabuto Gauntlet

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This is the real joke.

BM Minato shits on all of them, Orochimaru isn't even a factor and Kabuto can't do shit to Minato's Avatar. Once the first Bijuu Dama goes off Sasuke will be the only one standing, perfectly fine while Kabuto and Orochimaru have been turned into nothing.

Hashirama might beat them, it depends on how he deals with Nagato.

Madara shits on them, badly regardless of who they summon.



Not even sure if serious. Kabuto gets stomped, and giving him Sasuke means it might as well be Sasuke vs Hashirama since Kabuto=Non factor.

Most of his jutsu would be useless, he'll only be able to resort to TBB

Sasuke would tank, Orochimaru has gates and/avoid that jutsu along with kabuto

They all counter kunia effortlessly. See as Orochimaru is the only one capable of erasing his presence he'll be perfect for stealth attacks.

Tobi is the only nonfactor here.

Madara is still vulnerable to sound genjutsu. With those many opponents, he'll be catch off guard.
 

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Most of his jutsu would be useless, he'll only be able to resort to TBB

In what universe is Hiraishin useless? lmao.

Sasuke would tank, Orochimaru has gates and/avoid that jutsu along with kabuto
He isn't evading something that already has a large ass AoE (Completely vaporizes Mountains) and his Rashomon failed against a KN4 (4 Tailed Naruto) Bijuu Dama yet you think a BM Minato Bijuu Dama will be blocked? Lmao, not sure if serious.

Also, if the slower, smaller and weaker Bijuu Dama forced Oro to guard instead of dodging, the bigger, faster, and stronger one will do the same.

Sasuke's PS gets destroyed from multiple of Bijuu Dama after a regular one kills Kabuto and Orochimaru, its that simple.

They all counter kunia effortlessly. See as Orochimaru is the only one capable of erasing his presence he'll be perfect for stealth attacks.
Doesn't matter if they counter Kunai cause Bijuu Dama rapes them.


Madara is still vulnerable to sound genjutsu. With those many opponents, he'll be catch off guard.

While inside PS? lmao, he swings his blade and the noise from the ensuing destruction completely negates the sound waves along with the Genjutsu, like Temari did in canon.

Madara rapes, Minato beats them, Hashirama beats them as well, but high difficulty.

TBH, I think they could potentially clear it.

They can't.
 

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In what universe is Hiraishin useless? lmao.


He isn't evading something that already has a large ass AoE (Completely vaporizes Mountains) and his Rashomon failed against a KN4 (4 Tailed Naruto) Bijuu Dama yet you think a BM Minato Bijuu Dama will be blocked? Lmao, not sure if serious.

Also, if the slower, smaller and weaker Bijuu Dama forced Oro to guard instead of dodging, the bigger, faster, and stronger one will do the same.

Sasuke's PS gets destroyed from multiple of Bijuu Dama after a regular one kills Kabuto and Orochimaru, its that simple.


Doesn't matter if they counter Kunai cause Bijuu Dama rapes them.




While inside PS? lmao, he swings his blade and the noise from the ensuing destruction completely negates the sound waves along with the Genjutsu, like Temari did in canon.

Madara rapes, Minato beats them, Hashirama beats them as well, but high difficulty.



They can't.

Oh shyt! I'm thinking KCM Minato....i might reconsider that outcome lol

The moment he hears the melody he'll be caught. Unless he has prior knowledge i don't his predicting this. Also, sseing as both sasuke and Madara has PS, in midst of clashing with Sasuke, he'll be vulnerable
 

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Kabuto can't do shit to Minato's Avatar

Whatever mode you are talking about:

-Cloak is not safe with the effects of Chakra Scapel, boost by Senjutsu.

-Full Kurama Ava can be man handle with Kabuto strength. Or cut avatar limbs.

Either of the avatars can be absorb through Jirobo's ability.

Once the first Bijuu Dama goes off Sasuke will be the only one standing

Bijuu Dama has never shown feats to "C4"(<-Expression of disintegrate) characters. Kabuto and Orochimaru can make there bodies tank it, not that it is needed anyway, since they have summonings to do that for them

perfectly fine while Kabuto and Orochimaru have been turned into nothing.

-Summoning meat shield says no.

Not even sure if serious. Kabuto gets stomped, and giving him Sasuke means it might as well be Sasuke vs Hashirama since Kabuto=Non factor.

Nice joke. Don't get turnt up just yet, until you explain Kabuto being a nonfactor.

@bold: Not sure if Trolling... Overrating kabuto.. Underrating Hashirama... or just plain stupid...

7) Without Edo's, Minato's enough to take them out. Oro and Kabuto are near non-factors for BM. The fact that it's minato with BM just makes it worse. Only sasuke with his PS can compete, and even then he's going to have a bad day because of FTG. Furthermore, Tobirama's FTG in conjunction with minato's is a real ***** - FTG switch would cause some people on team 2 to be severely injured.

8) I won't even bother seeing as you think Kabuto can push [ ][ ][ ][ ] to high diff...

Nope just you underrating Kabuto, being completely ignorant to the characters ability, overrating the 1st, and once again being plain ignorant.

7) Which is bias, approach since Kabuto has many counters to deal with BM Minato. Orochimaru also has the prolong seal ready for Minato

8) Because Hashashi can spam these jutsu simultaneously? I hope you don't believe that.

Scan 1: Does not help as Kabuto can completely nullify the pollen by diluting it via liquification. Harashima overwelming the battle will not see Kabuto's counter. Sound Genjutsu stops it, Homing Arrow can barrage through wood release land a vital spot on him.

Scan 2: And? If we going by how it travels off screen, Kabuto can destroy the dragon, and slither away from its warping range.

Scan 3: Kabuto easily senses the attack and either Doton Mole away or simply move.

Scan 4: Manda II can guide him, with a Genjutsu ready for Harashima to hear. Bone forest limit it's mobility so he can fight at long range.
 

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Oh shyt! I'm thinking KCM Minato....i might reconsider that outcome lol

The moment he hears the melody he'll be caught. Unless he has prior knowledge i don't his predicting this. Also, sseing as both sasuke and Madara has PS, in midst of clashing with Sasuke, he'll be vulnerable

He doesn't need to have prior knowledge, common sense along with Sharingan allowing him to see chakra (and the flute) will let him know that Kabuto is using a Sound Genjutsu. Allowing him to simply interrupt it with Rinbo Hengoku or by swinging PS's blade.

Clashing with Sasuke? His PS would be stronger than Sasuke's due to Senjutsu, not to mention he still has Rinnegan techniques to fall back on. (CST)

Or he uses Hashirama's Sage Mode to call Shinsuusenju and pounds Sasuke's Susanoo with little effort.

Whatever mode you are talking about:

-Cloak is not safe with the effects of Chakra Scapel, boost by Senjutsu.

lmao, a Senjutsu chakra scalpel's best feat is bisecting Edo Itachi and Itachi even used Sasuke's Chokuto to parry it yet its getting past the Kurama Avatar? lmao, no. It tanks with no damage.

If Kabuto tries this strategy he gets a to the face and dies.

-Full Kurama Ava can be man handle with Kabuto strength. Or cut avatar limbs.
No strength feats from Kabuto or Jirobo dictate that this is possible, so obviously not. Nor does he have anything strong enough to penetrate the avatar's limbs and cut them, so that clearly isn't happening.

Jirobo was overpowered by a Part 1 Butterfly Mode Choji and you think that strength increased with Senjutsu is going to let him manhandle a chakra avatar strong enough to toss Bijuu back several hundred meters? Lmfao. No.

If anything Kabuto is the one who gets physically manhandled by the teleporting Kurama Avatar Minato.

Either of the avatars can be absorb through Jirobo's ability.

Jirobo can only absorb chakra when the target is inside his Dome, and Minato can teleport and has enough strength to bust it whether he uses a giant Rasengan or if he uses Bijuu Dama to blow right through it and kill Kabuto and Orochimaru at the same time.

Even if I'm wrong and he can absorb through contact alone, Minato can still teleport in the Kurama Avatar and in response to Kabuto even trying to get near him, a Bijuu Mode Rasengan ends him.

Bijuu Dama has never shown feats to "C4"(<-Expression of disintegrate) characters. Kabuto and Orochimaru can make there bodies tank it, not that it is needed anyway, since they have summonings to do that for them

And I'm done taking you seriously. Bijuu Dama doesn't need to disintegrate characters when it has already (Minato's is many many many times stronger than these ones), a Mountain is more durable than Orochimaru or Kabuto's body, and Orochimaru is going to tank a full power Bijuu Dama when a weaker one would kill him? Please tell me you aren't serious with this nonsense. Summonings aren't helping either as no summon he has is going to stop them from being blown off the face of the earth as no summon they have can take a Bijuu Dama without ending up as nothing but a pile of ashes.


-Summoning meat shield says no.
Summoning meat shield doesn't do shit unless I get some durability feats that prove its surviving or letting Oro and Kabuto survive a Bijuu Dama from Minato. Manda died from taking a part of C0's explosion, a far stronger Bijuu Dama is leaving nothing left behind.

And please don't mention Manda II, cause its fodder for Bijuu Dama as well.

Nice joke. Don't get turnt up just yet, until you explain Kabuto being a nonfactor.

-Can't hurt Hashirama.
-Can't deal with his offensive power.
-The only thing that keeps him in the fight is Sasuke, and once Buddha has effortlessly smashed open his PS, flower world puts Kabuto to sleep and he is promptly killed.

Your arguments are laughable at best.
 
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lmao, a Senjutsu chakra scalpel's best feat is bisecting Edo Itachi and Itachi even used Sasuke's Chokuto to parry it yet its getting past the Kurama Avatar? lmao, no. It tanks with no damage.

1st: Base Kabuto has shown more impressive feat then Senjutsu chaka scalpel. The fact that it was able to cut through wood[ ]. Or Wood and flesh[ ][ ]. So you can't take Senjutsu Chakra Scapel one panel time to make that conclusion. The fact remains that Scalpel wasn't built to cut solid objects, escaiably when it is clashing against a Kunasangi variant.. Lets read how this jutsu works..

"This medical technique forms one's chakra into a small, sharp blade. This can then be used for highly accurate incisions necessary for surgeries and anatomical dissections. Unlike regular scalpels, the chakra scalpel can make cuts inside the body without actually creating an open wound, limiting the risks of an infection."

This jutsu is able to attack internally and simply ignoring the external layer of the skin. Meaning the focus is doing internal damage mainly. So logically with Senjutsu boosting it to even greater, shows how powerful this jutsu can effect.

Can Kabuto do the job in one cut? Not at all. But he can use Sakons KKG to use "Ta Ren Ken" adding 3 times the original damage.

No strength feats that dictate this is possible, so obviously not. Nor does he have anything strong enough to penetrate the avatar's limbs.

Yea I am not going to bother breaking this down that natural energy boosts your physical attributes.

Jirobo's strength answers this

Jirobo can only absorb chakra when the target is inside his Dome, and Minato can teleport and has enough raw strength to bust it, so no, that's not happening either.

No..[ ]. Dome can be use as a substitution to absorb chakra, which is why Kishimoto label his Doton as KKG[ ].


And I'm done taking you seriously. Bijuu Dama doesn't need to disintegrate characters when it has already vaporized Mountains in canon, a Mountain is more durable than Orochimaru or Kabuto's body, and Orochimaru is going to tank a full power Bijuu Dama when a weaker one would kill him? Please tell me you aren't serious with this nonsense. Summonings aren't helping either as no summon he has is going to stop them from being blown off the face of the earth as no summon they have can take a Bijuu Dama without ending up as nothing but a pile of ashes.

I concede of Orochimaru tanking, since I though a Senju body can have him do it, then oral rebirth out.

Kabuto on the other hand, can block all chakra using Kidomaru's fluids powered by Senjutsu[ ]. Which enables him to use his profound recovery right after, since he has to deal with the impact of the explosion. Or Oral Rebirth if he doesn't want to wait.

Sasuke had use Manda I durable to tank C0, which has as much power as a TBB, in fact better. Orochimaru should do it with his Summoning. Or Manda II being alot easier.

Summoning meat shield doesn't do shit unless I get some durability feats that prove its surviving or letting Oro and Kabuto survive a Bijuu Dama from Minato.

C0 was tanked by Manda I. Although he died, his body remain on tact.

-Can't hurt Hashirama.
-Can't deal with his offensive power.
-The only thing that keeps him in the fight is Sasuke, and once Buddha has effortlessly smashed open his PS, flower world puts Kabuto to sleep and he is promptly killed.

Your arguments are laughable at best.

-Since when Harashi's body invulnerable
-Pretty sure he can, as I brought up small points Kabuto can counter, which GoodBoy brought up
-FTW does not put Kabuto to sleep since he can diluted it with liquidation, which completely delays the effect until escape. Its better to fake it and land a sneaky attack.

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1st: Base Kabuto has shown more impressive feat then Senjutsu chaka scalpel. The fact that it was able to cut through wood[ ]. Or Wood and flesh[ ][ ]. So you can't take Senjutsu Chakra Scapel one panel time to make that conclusion. The fact remains that Scalpel wasn't built to cut solid objects, escaiably when it is clashing against a Kunasangi variant.. Lets read how this jutsu works..

Cutting wood or flesh isn't a good enough feat to let you or anyone else say that enhancing it with Senjutsu will let it cut through the BM Avatar when its strong enough to block Juubidama. Not a chance.



This jutsu is able to attack internally and simply ignoring the external layer of the skin. Meaning the focus is doing internal damage mainly. So logically with Senjutsu boosting it to even greater, shows how powerful this jutsu can effect.

Not even seeing your point or anything that tells me its strong enough to cut into the BM Avatar, multiple hits and it being able to cause internal wounds doesn't mean anything here nor does it allow it to cut the Avatar.

Can Kabuto do the job in one cut? Not at all. But he can use Sakons KKG to use "Ta Ren Ken" adding 3 times the original damage.

He can cut all he wants it'll all be tanked.


Yea I am not going to bother breaking this down that natural energy boosts your physical attributes.
It being enhanced doesn't mean its enhanced enough to manhandle the BM Avatar, and if you aren't going to provide any evidence for your claim that he's strong enough to manhandle the BM Avatar then you are conceding this point.

Jirobo's strength answers this

Uh, no, not without feats it doesn't.

Jirobo was overpowered by a Part 1 Butterfly Mode Choji and you think that strength increased with Senjutsu is going to let him manhandle a chakra avatar strong enough to toss Bijuu back several hundred meters? Lmfao. No.


No..[ ]. Dome can be use as a substitution to absorb chakra, which is why Kishimoto label his Doton as KKG[ ].

Regardless.

Minato can teleport and has enough strength to bust it whether he uses a giant Rasengan or if he uses Bijuu Dama to blow right through it and kill Kabuto and Orochimaru at the same time.

Minato can still teleport in the Kurama Avatar and in response to Kabuto even trying to get near him, a Bijuu Mode Rasengan ends him.

I concede of Orochimaru tanking, since I though a Senju body can have him do it, then oral rebirth out.
lol, a Zetsu body isn't helping here at all.

Are we going to blatantly deny the manga? Orochimaru already stated that if TBB hits him he dies, meaning there is no "Oral Rebirth'ing" out of it, especially when there is nothing left behind.

Kabuto on the other hand, can block all chakra using Kidomaru's fluids powered by Senjutsu[ ]. Which enables him to use his profound recovery right after, since he has to deal with the impact of the explosion. Or Oral Rebirth if he doesn't want to wait.

Yeah, no feats that prove it can block a Bijuu Dama, nor will it stop it from exploding and atomizing Kabuto.

Mountains get vaporized by Bijuu Dama's explosion so the same happens to Kabuto, meaning he isn't regenerating.

If this is how you believe Kabuto survives a Bijuu Dama then I suggest you stop here, cause you aren't making any sense.

Sasuke had use Manda I durable to tank C0, which has as much power as a TBB, in fact better. Orochimaru should do it with his Summoning. Or Manda II being alot easier.
C0 made a pathetic crater in the ground while Bijuu Dama evaporates Mountains, Minato's is much stronger, its half of . Manda I or II aren't tanking anything at all.

A standard Bijuu Dama has better feats than C0 let alone or .

Manda or Manda II get vaporized off the face of this planet along with Kabuto and Orochimaru.

C0 was tanked by Manda I. Although he died, his body remain on tact.
Too bad C0 is weaker than a normal Bijuu Dama let alone Minato's Bijuu Dama.

-Since when Harashi's body invulnerable
It doesn't need to invulnerable to change the fact Kabuto can't hurt him or do serious damage to him since Hashirama has Mokuton defenses to tank any of his attacks and offense to push him back.

-Pretty sure he can, as I brought up small points Kabuto can counter, which GoodBoy brought up


Scan 1: Does not help as Kabuto can completely nullify the pollen by diluting it via liquification. Harashima overwelming the battle will not see Kabuto's counter. Sound Genjutsu stops it, Homing Arrow can barrage through wood release land a vital spot on him.
-Sound Genjutsu stops what? Flower Tree World? lmao, that doesn't even make any sense. Regardless, if he gets caught in Genjutsu, he simply disrupts his chakra, Kabuto's hold and kills him. Sprouts Mokuton from his own body to inflict pain on himself allowing him to break free, or he makes a Mokuton Clone and has it break him free.

-I hope you don't mean Kidomaru's arrow, cause it gets tanked by a Mokuton Dome, which with little damage.

Scan 2: And? If we going by how it travels off screen, Kabuto can destroy the dragon, and slither away from its warping range.
Destroy it with what? Kabuto's pathetic offensive power isn't letting him destroy something that

Scan 4: Manda II can guide him, with a Genjutsu ready for Harashima to hear. Bone forest limit it's mobility so he can fight at long range.

Manda II isn't going to outrun or evade something that spans over Mountain ranges and has an AoE that made Full Kurama look small in comparison. Kabuto and his precious snake get turned into road kill if they come at Shinsuusenju, but its not even needed to beat Kabuto so there is no point in me replying to this part.

-FTW does not put Kabuto to sleep since he can diluted it with liquidation, which completely delays the effect until escape. Its better to fake it and land a sneaky attack.
Flower Tree World's pollen isn't a liquid, so it can't be diluted meaning he falls asleep a second after it hits. Turning to liquid will literally have no effect here.


lmao, I intend to.
 

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Eh, I would say if they lose any of them, it would be BM Minato and Tobirama, but in all likelihood, they win. I don't see how Madara or Hashirama are defeating Orochimaru with his own Edo summon (let's say Jiraiya), Sasuke with Perfect Susano'o, and Kabuto with his own summon. (Nagato) Sasuke and co. can stall Hashirama/Madara long enough for Jiraiya to enter Sage Mode and to summon Ma, Pa, and others. Nagato uses his Animal Path to summon his assortment of summons. Whoever is fighting all of that is at too great of a disadvantage. Maybe I read it wrong, but Oro and Kabuto get their own Edo summon, correct? Add in Manda II, and God damn, its a stomp no matter who they're facing.
 

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Whatever mode you are talking about:

-Cloak is not safe with the effects of Chakra Scapel, boost by Senjutsu.

-Full Kurama Ava can be man handle with Kabuto strength. Or cut avatar limbs.

Either of the avatars can be absorb through Jirobo's ability.



Bijuu Dama has never shown feats to "C4"(<-Expression of disintegrate) characters. Kabuto and Orochimaru can make there bodies tank it, not that it is needed anyway, since they have summonings to do that for them



-Summoning meat shield says no.



Nice joke. Don't get turnt up just yet, until you explain Kabuto being a nonfactor.



Nope just you underrating Kabuto, being completely ignorant to the characters ability, overrating the 1st, and once again being plain ignorant.

7) Which is bias, approach since Kabuto has many counters to deal with BM Minato. Orochimaru also has the prolong seal ready for Minato

8) Because Hashashi can spam these jutsu simultaneously? I hope you don't believe that.

Scan 1: Does not help as Kabuto can completely nullify the pollen by diluting it via liquification. Harashima overwelming the battle will not see Kabuto's counter. Sound Genjutsu stops it, Homing Arrow can barrage through wood release land a vital spot on him.

Scan 2: And? If we going by how it travels off screen, Kabuto can destroy the dragon, and slither away from its warping range.

Scan 3: Kabuto easily senses the attack and either Doton Mole away or simply move.

Scan 4: Manda II can guide him, with a Genjutsu ready for Harashima to hear. Bone forest limit it's mobility so he can fight at long range.

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They clear the gauntlet. Kabuto starts off with that flashbang jutsu which renders the opposing team immobile whilst Sasuke and Oro go for the kill.
 

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They clear the gauntlet. Kabuto starts off with that flashbang jutsu which renders the opposing team immobile whilst Sasuke and Oro go for the kill.

1) Lol at flashbang. Sounds like they're fighting in afghanistan
2) White rage would affect his team mates also; Kabuto would be the only one able to do anything during it.
 

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Cutting wood or flesh isn't a good enough feat to let you or anyone else say that enhancing it with Senjutsu will let it cut through the BM Avatar when its strong enough to block Juubidama. Not a chance.

Your reasoning on why it wouldn't is because Avatar blocked Juubidama? Last time I check it was Juubi-laser. Juubi-laser damages much different then Juubidamma. There is no explosion for Laser. Second, The laser destroyed the tails Naruto was trying to defend. So no, the avatar did not tank the jutsu from penetrating it's cloak.

Not even seeing your point or anything that tells me its strong enough to cut into the BM Avatar, multiple hits and it being able to cause internal wounds doesn't mean anything here nor does it allow it to cut the Avatar.

I made two points: One concerning KCM cloak. One concerning BM cloak.

Kabuto's testament in base form had developed since part 1.

"Because of this requirement, using the chakra scalpel offensively is highly unusual. In heated combat, even the greatest medical-nin won't be able to exert the precision needed to make fatal cuts, but it can still effectively cut muscle tissues and tendons, rendering the target immobile."

But in part 2, cutting through wood and flesh with ease, was never the problem like in part 1. Sage Mode on the other hand adds 3 times the power of the original. The logical conclusion shows that it can cut internally though chakra.

He can cut all he wants it'll all be tanked.

For KCM, the cloak acts as a extra protective layer of skin. Chakra Scapel effects should be able to still do damage internally. Hyuuga's Gentle fist has a same effect in damage, since they focus on internal damage[ ]. Hinata has shown to use Juuken to relocate Naruto's arm, fixing him up internally[ ][ ]

It being enhanced doesn't mean its enhanced enough to manhandle the BM Avatar, and if you aren't going to provide any evidence for your claim that he's strong enough to manhandle the BM Avatar then you are conceding this point.

Evidence is here[ ][ ][ ][ ][ ], Jirobo using only CM to boost his strength 10 times his original. The manga portray SM boost being much greater. Therefore, Jirobo sharing Kabuto's body, Kabuto can use his strength to do way more then 10 times Jirobo's original strength was.




Jirobo was overpowered by a Part 1 Butterfly Mode Choji and you think that strength increased with Senjutsu is going to let him manhandle a chakra avatar strong enough to toss Bijuu back several hundred meters? Lmfao. No.

Choji was one of the physical strongest in part 1. Choji used a special pill to make him even greater, with a cost. Till this day he never used that special pill again, which gave him enormous power at the time. That does not invalidate the strength Jirobo had displayed when using CM

Regardless.

Minato can teleport and has enough strength to bust it whether he uses a giant Rasengan or if he uses Bijuu Dama to blow right through it and kill Kabuto and Orochimaru at the same time.

Minato can still teleport in the Kurama Avatar and in response to Kabuto even trying to get near him, a Bijuu Mode Rasengan ends him.



Kabuto can merge bodies with him easily, teleporting along with Minato, which he will not expect will happen in CQC. The other point had nothing to do with what I brought up, concerning using Doro Doton.. Any from of Rasengan and TBB can't be used any where inside since the Dome anyway, it will be absorbed attempting to gather the chakra[ ].

A basic chakra form is easily nullify by Fuilds From Kidomaru's, since the attack blocks all chakra.

lol, a Zetsu body isn't helping here at all.

Are we going to blatantly deny the manga? Orochimaru already stated that if TBB hits him he dies, meaning there is no "Oral Rebirth'ing" out of it, especially when there is nothing left behind.

Already concede to that point concerning Orochimaru. Try not beating a dead horse


Yeah, no feats that prove it can block a Bijuu Dama, nor will it stop it from exploding and atomizing Kabuto.

I just gave you scans with Kidomaru statement that it blocks all chakra, with his testament against Neji. Atomizing is exaggerating, since it didn't atomized anyone who got a direct hit from it.

Mountains get vaporized by Bijuu Dama's explosion so the same happens to Kabuto, meaning he isn't regenerating.

Except Kabuto is not made out of rocks and is more durable then rocks. While Kabuto has the body fuilds he can produce, that block all chakra.


C0 made a pathetic crater in the ground while Bijuu Dama evaporates Mountains, Minato's is much stronger, its half of . Manda I or II aren't tanking anything at all.

A standard Bijuu Dama has better feats than C0 let alone or .

Wtf Deidara bomb covers 10 km? What does Buijuudama cover? Are you kidding me. Have you forgotten everything about C0 [ ][ ]. Ill wait for your concession concerning C0.

Manda or Manda II get vaporized off the face of this planet along with Kabuto and Orochimaru.

Same as above

Too bad C0 is weaker than a normal Bijuu Dama let alone Minato's Bijuu Dama.

Same as above. Compare rocks to other character who have a defensive ability. EVERY character that took TBB did not vaporize.

It doesn't need to invulnerable to change the fact Kabuto can't hurt him or do serious damage to him since Hashirama has Mokuton defenses to tank any of his attacks and offense to push him back.

Cant hurt him seriously? I can give you a list:
-Doki Spirits
-Bone forest
-Guided Golden Arrow
-Chakra Scaplel


-Sound Genjutsu stops what? Flower Tree World? lmao, that doesn't even make any sense. Regardless, if he gets caught in Genjutsu, he simply disrupts his chakra, Kabuto's hold and kills him. Sprouts Mokuton from his own body to inflict pain on himself allowing him to break free, or he makes a Mokuton Clone and has it break him free.

Talk about how one typo can effect the whole interpretation..
1. Which is going to take more then simple kai, thats powered by senjutsu
2. Except the Genjutsu shuts down the lower body chakra usage.
3. Same as 2.

-I hope you don't mean Kidomaru's arrow, cause it gets tanked by a Mokuton Dome, which with little damage.

Except Penetration=/= Explosive damage. Which you keep exaggerating on TBB power in the first place.

Destroy it with what? Kabuto's pathetic offensive power isn't letting him destroy something that

Not amuse with your underrating. Enlighten me on how his offensive power is pathetic.

Manda II isn't going to outrun or evade something that spans over Mountain ranges and has an AoE that made Full Kurama look small in comparison. Kabuto and his precious snake get turned into road kill if they come at Shinsuusenju, but its not even needed to beat Kabuto so there is no point in me replying to this part.

I wouldn't only because the hate with Manda II is ridiculous, that you try your best to display him as a useless baby.

Flower Tree World's pollen isn't a liquid, so it can't be diluted meaning he falls asleep a second after it hits. Turning to liquid will literally have no effect here.

Wtf I didn't say that. I said Kabuto can be liquid. Pollen has to have some anaesthetic properties, Which is the reason why it has the ability to put people to sleep. The chemical compound can be diluted by liquid.


lmao, I intend to.

Must be a warm up.

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Yea, stop..

Eh, I would say if they lose any of them, it would be BM Minato and Tobirama, but in all likelihood, they win. I don't see how Madara or Hashirama are defeating Orochimaru with his own Edo summon (let's say Jiraiya), Sasuke with Perfect Susano'o, and Kabuto with his own summon. (Nagato) Sasuke and co. can stall Hashirama/Madara long enough for Jiraiya to enter Sage Mode and to summon Ma, Pa, and others. Nagato uses his Animal Path to summon his assortment of summons. Whoever is fighting all of that is at too great of a disadvantage. Maybe I read it wrong, but Oro and Kabuto get their own Edo summon, correct? Add in Manda II, and God damn, its a stomp no matter who they're facing.

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Your reasoning on why it wouldn't is because Avatar blocked Juubidama? Last time I check it was Juubi-laser. Juubi-laser damages much different then Juubidamma. There is no explosion for Laser. Second, The laser destroyed the tails Naruto was trying to defend. So no, the avatar did not tank the jutsu from penetrating it's cloak.

It doesn't matter, cause its stronger than any singular Bijuu Dama in the series bar the Juubi's own Bijuu Dama as it and a . The fact that a laser attack is more of a piercing attack than it is an explosive attack hurts you here, not me.

So? It as parts of the tails were left behind and Naruto was undamaged. So an attack light years away from it in power (Chakra Scalpel) isn't doing anything to it.


I made two points: One concerning KCM cloak. One concerning BM cloak.
The only one I care about is the one concerning the BM cloak cause this is BM Minato.

Kabuto's testament in base form had developed since part 1.
Still not seeing any feats, just you repeating this same nonsense.

"Because of this requirement, using the chakra scalpel offensively is highly unusual. In heated combat, even the greatest medical-nin won't be able to exert the precision needed to make fatal cuts, but it can still effectively cut muscle tissues and tendons, rendering the target immobile."

But in part 2, cutting through wood and flesh with ease, was never the problem like in part 1. Sage Mode on the other hand adds 3 times the power of the original. The logical conclusion shows that it can cut internally though chakra.

It doesn't matter if it can cut internally through chakra, cause I see no feats that let you say its strong enough to penetrate the cloak. If he uses it as a blade like he did against Itachi, Yamato and etc, then it needs to be strong enough to actually cut before it does anything let alone internal damage. Simple logic.



For KCM, the cloak acts as a extra protective layer of skin. Chakra Scapel effects should be able to still do damage internally. Hyuuga's Gentle fist has a same effect in damage, since they focus on internal damage[ ]. Hinata has shown to use Juuken to relocate Naruto's arm, fixing him up internally[ ][ ]

It can hurt him if he's using the KCM cloak only, but if he's only in KCM then he'll never touch Minato since he'll rely more on Hiraishin.



Evidence is here[ ][ ][ ][ ][ ], Jirobo using only CM to boost his strength 10 times his original. The manga portray SM boost being much greater. Therefore, Jirobo sharing Kabuto's body, Kabuto can use his strength to do way more then 10 times Jirobo's original strength was.

Tossing around a Part 1 Choji, who is far far weaker than Yin or Yang Kurama when it comes to physical strength is evidence that Kabuto is going to be able to toss around a far far far stronger opponent than Choji is? Please stop cause this isn't evidence, this is you spouting more BS.

I recall Choji beating the shit out of this guy, I also recall . Yet he's going to be physically strong enough to manhandle a Bijuu? Even with the gap between his strength, Part 1 Butterfly Choji's strength, and the strongest Bijuu's strength? Yeah, no. This isn't evidence. Since Kurama is stronger than Choji in Part 1, he's also much much much stronger than Jirobo and a Senjutsu boost isn't going to change that.





Choji was one of the physical strongest in part 1. Choji used a special pill to make him even greater, with a cost. Till this day he never used that special pill again, which gave him enormous power at the time. That does not invalidate the strength Jirobo had displayed when using CM

No, it does, cause a Bijuu is much stronger than Part 1 Choji is even with the pills. Choji has used butterfly mode twice in Part 2, once against Asuma and once against Gedo Mazo, he doesn't even need the pill anymore to access it.



Kabuto can merge bodies with him easily, teleporting along with Minato, which he will not expect will happen in CQC. The other point had nothing to do with what I brought up, concerning using Doro Doton.. Any from of Rasengan and TBB can't be used any where inside since the Dome anyway, it will be absorbed attempting to gather the chakra[ ].
A basic chakra form is easily nullify by Fuilds From Kidomaru's, since the attack blocks all chakra.

Kabuto needs to make contact with Minato to merge with him, and that isn't happening, so moot point.

Then he teleports out of the dome and that's the end of it.

Yeah, it blocking chakra doesn't mean it can block all chakra regardless of the strength. You are going to need more evidence than a statement that implies a No Limit Fallacy to say his stuff is blocking Bijuu Dama. As of now, it explodes and Kabuto gets vaporized.

I just gave you scans with Kidomaru statement that it blocks all chakra, with his testament against Neji. Atomizing is exaggerating, since it didn't atomized anyone who got a direct hit from it.

No, you gave me a No Limits Statement with no other evidence backing it can block something as strong as Bijuu Dama, so until I get this. Kabuto gets vaporized by Bijuu Dama.


Except Kabuto is not made out of rocks and is more durable then rocks. While Kabuto has the body fuilds he can produce, that block all chakra.
Kabuto isn't more durable than a Mountain, I don't care if he isn't made of rocks cause that isn't the point here. If he was more durable than a Mountain, then he wouldn't have gotten pierced through by a Susanoo arrow. Kabuto has zero durability feats that let you say he can tank Bijuu Dama.




Wtf Deidara bomb covers 10 km? What does Buijuudama cover? Are you kidding me. Have you forgotten everything about C0 [ ][ ]. Ill wait for your concession concerning C0.

I don't give a shit about its AoE. I look at its actual damage and the crater it made was absolutely pathetic. Since when the hell did AoE of anything determine its strength? lmao, laughable.

This is the C0 made, and its garbage compared to anything that destroys Mountains with ease let alone half of , which dwarfs C0 in size anyway.

I'll wait for your concession on a lot these weak points.


Same as above. Compare rocks to other character who have a defensive ability. EVERY character that took TBB did not vaporize.

Minato's two super sized Bijuu Dama have never hit any character, so you have no point here. Don't try and equalize every Bijuu Dama's power cause its clear that they aren't the same. BM Bijuu Dama's dwarf normal Bijuu Dama that vaporize Mountains, meaning Kabuto gets raped. You calling a Mountain rocks doesn't change anything nor does it add any weight to your argument. Go get me the feats that allow Kabuto to tank a Bijuu Dama and then we'll talk.



Cant hurt him seriously? I can give you a list:

-Doki Spirits
Are doing what here exactly?

-Bone forest

You mean the bone forest that got fodderized by a level 2 Susanoo? lmao, its easily broken with zero effort.

-Guided Golden Arrow
Zero feats to cut through his Mokuton Defenses.

-Chakra Scaplel
Zero feats to cut through his Mokuton Defenses.




1. Which is going to take more then simple kai, thats powered by senjutsu
Uh, no, it being powered by Senjutsu doesn't change anything nor is it an argument. Hashirama's chakra is far stronger than Kabuto's own and as stated, all you have to do is overpower the flow of chakra that has taken over your own and you are free.

2. Except the Genjutsu shuts down the lower body chakra usage.
Uh, yeah, that's an assumption. Chakra can be used while under this Genjutsu that is a fact as Itachi and Sasuke both used their own Genjutsu, and Shikamaru used his Shadows. So Hashirama can produce Mokuton from his body and he can make a clone. Unless you have more evidence that proves me wrong.




Except Penetration=/= Explosive damage. Which you keep exaggerating on TBB power in the first place.
Doesn't matter, when the gap between the Explosive Technique and the Penetrative Technique is that large, you can't throw this weak excuse out here and attempt to use it to counter my argument.

- much damage to the ground when it hits and its going to pierce through defenses capable of tanking Bijuu Dama? lmao, please stop.

Not amuse with your underrating. Enlighten me on how his offensive power is pathetic.
No point, I'll just focus on countering the nonsense that comes with your posts.

I wouldn't only because the hate with Manda II is ridiculous, that you try your best to display him as a useless baby.

Nah, that's you getting butthurt that I don't wank the living shit out of Manda II like you do. I don't hate on any fictional characters let alone a fictional summon with absolutely no personality to hate on. Lol

-Useless baby? In the face of Shinsuusenju yes, it is a helpless baby and anyone who says anything otherwise is just wanking.


Wtf I didn't say that. I said Kabuto can be liquid. Pollen has to have some anaesthetic properties, Which is the reason why it has the ability to put people to sleep. The chemical compound can be diluted by liquid.

The good ol' "lets bring science into Naruto despite Kishimoto showing many many many times that bringing Science into Naruto doesn't always work BS" again.

For it to dilute whatever chemical that may be in there, it would have to dilute the pollen first, as its inside the pollen, and you can't dilute pollen so turning to water isn't going to help him stop the pollen from knocking him out after he's inhaled it.
 
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