[Theory] EMS more OP than we thought? (Current manga related)

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Include Sasuke or its bullsh!t to even mention him.

The 10 ten most annoying things about thread these days.

Mention one character based on their feats...Sasuke is the second main character dammit. Its obvious its sasuke as well.

Do the same for Sasuke as you would do for Naruto when you bring up that main character stuff. They are equal (sasuke might be stronger atm, but idc, they equal) ​

 

[TheTailedSage]

Include Sasuke or its bullsh!t to even mention him.

The 10 ten most annoying things about thread these days.

Mention one character based on their feats...Sasuke is the second main character dammit. Its obvious its sasuke as well.

Do the same for Sasuke as you would do for Naruto when you bring up that main character stuff. They are equal (sasuke might be stronger atm, but idc, they equal) ​

If you show me a scan of Sasuke having Senju DNA then ill gladly involve him.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Cant remember Sasuke having senju dna which is required to use Izanagi

That's still no you on that pic:

I think Obito injected Sasuke with something like Orochimaru did...Obito original plain for Sasuke was to control the Gedo Monzo (idk how to spell that shet)

And I think you need Senju dna to do so if I'm not mistaken. ​

 

[TheTailedSage]

That's still no you on that pic:

I think Obito injected Sasuke with something like Orochimaru did...Obito original plain for Sasuke was to control the Gedo Monzo (idk how to spell that shet)

And I think you need Senju dna to do so if I'm not mistaken. ​

The manga says otherwise. Obito took control over it. Sasuke was a pawn in his plan. Show me a scan of where it stated that obito wanted sasuke to control the Mazo because currently Madara seems to have taken that job description already regardless of what was said in the manga

 

[Olyasama]

That's still no you on that pic:

I think Obito injected Sasuke with something like Orochimaru did...Obito original plain for Sasuke was to control the Gedo Monzo (idk how to spell that shet)

And I think you need Senju dna to do so if I'm not mistaken. ​

You can think whatever you want, until you bring manga proofs its your pure fantasies, poor fapboy

 

[-Spoiler-]

Izanagi and Izanami doesnt cause the user to lose he sight, it Seals the light away completely. itachi and sasuke eyes went black due to overuses of MS techs but when itachi used izanami his eye turned white cause it was sealed off.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Well, one thing is that even if you are correct and Izanagi and Izanami do NOT sacrifice a Sharingan, you overlook a major point.

Izanagi, at the very least takes a lot of chakra.

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It's not something that one can just say "Oh, I don't feel like dying today, I'll just use Izanagi." It's a last resort technique that takes up a lot of chakra.

Also, Itachi did say permanent light for the EMS, but I'm not 100% sure that it dictates techniques that immediately take away all of your eyesight instead of techniques like Amaterasu, Susano'o and Tsukuyomi.

 

[Mishima]

They were all either MS or 3t Users though. Not EMS. But technically speaking the eye now belongs to them because their own MS is infused within the EMS



You did? link me but Kishi loves uchihas he's bound to come up with this implementation

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[-Spoiler-]

Well, one thing is that even if you are correct and Izanagi and Izanami do NOT sacrifice a Sharingan, you overlook a major point.

Izanagi, at the very least takes a lot of chakra.

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It's not something that one can just say "Oh, I don't feel like dying today, I'll just use Izanagi." It's a last resort technique that takes up a lot of chakra.

Also, Itachi did say permanent light for the EMS, but I'm not 100% sure that it dictates techniques that immediately take away all of your eyesight instead of techniques like Amaterasu, Susano'o and Tsukuyomi.

its not a MS tech it doesnt strain the eye because the eye is sealed directly after its used as seen with Danzo eyes , Obito and Itachi.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

You can think whatever you want, until you bring manga proofs its your pure fantasies, poor fapboy

Woah...wth!? Does peaceful arguments not occur at any point on this site anymore?
Glob.

I'm a reasonable person...bare with me and save your insults. ​

 

[Olyasama]

Woah...wth!? Does peaceful arguments not occur at any point on this site anymore?
Glob.

I'm a reasonable person...bare with me and save your insults. ​

Probably since it's become a sanbox of brainless Sasuke fanboys? Assumption is never an arguement, a fact is Just as Ive just said: manga facts, or its you own fanfiction => its off-topic

 

[Timolrickx]

It is not possible. You want to know why ?
If Madara seriously could use Izanagi without going blind... How could he lose against Hashirama in any way ?
Those forbidden techniques - if they were usable for a EMS user without knockback, would destroy the earth.
Simply as that madara would have won every fight. If he doesnt want to fight he would simply catch the enemy into Izanami ... and so on

 

[TheTailedSage]

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Well, one thing is that even if you are correct and Izanagi and Izanami do NOT sacrifice a Sharingan, you overlook a major point.

Izanagi, at the very least takes a lot of chakra.

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It's not something that one can just say "Oh, I don't feel like dying today, I'll just use Izanagi." It's a last resort technique that takes up a lot of chakra.

Also, Itachi did say permanent light for the EMS, but I'm not 100% sure that it dictates techniques that immediately take away all of your eyesight instead of techniques like Amaterasu, Susano'o and Tsukuyomi.

Madara was known for his unique high chakra levels and not only that but he has recently got SM and has Senju DNA, Regardless of the Chakra cost he has more than enough chakra to use its a good 30 times at minimum since Danzo was able to use it 10 times with the help of only a fraction of Senju DNA. This is a jutsu Madara can use whenever he is at death edge but i doubt it will be look that grim anytime soon.

Izanagi and Izanami doesnt cause the user to lose he sight, it Seals the light away completely. itachi and sasuke eyes went black due to overuses of MS techs but when itachi used izanami his eye turned white cause it was sealed off.

Show me where it states that its sealed

 

[AlphaScythian]

You can think whatever you want, until you bring manga proofs its your pure fantasies, poor fapboy

He had 6 zetsu's in him.
His stamina also gotten better.
Coincidence? I think not

 

[Champ]

Title is so wrong. We've only see one technique from Madara Mangekyo. Sasuke still has more to show us from his Eternal.

 

[TheTailedSage]

It is not possible. You want to know why ?
If Madara seriously could use Izanagi without going blind... How could he lose against Hashirama in any way ?
Those forbidden techniques - if they were usable for a EMS user without knockback, would destroy the earth.
Simply as that madara would have won every fight. If he doesnt want to fight he would simply catch the enemy into Izanami ... and so on

Someone already brought this up and back then he never had Senju DNA thus he couldn't use Izanagi. The whole reason he had the will to survive was to get the rinnengan and use those techniques. None of which he has had to use yet (apart from rinnengan

 

[TheTailedSage]

He had 6 zetsu's in him.
His stamina also gotten better.
Coincidence? I think not

Sasuke had zetsu inside of him ¬_____¬ ???

Title is so wrong. We've only see one technique from Madara Mangekyo. Sasuke still has more to show us from his Eternal.

Izanagi an dIzanami isnt a MS technique. How is the title wrong? MS negates the effects of nagi and nami thus making it OP

 

[omarsen]

Rinnegan user can use Izanagi as much as he want without going blind, proof? SO6P did use it without going blind.

and as for EMS, yes he can go blind. Imagine sasuke using Izanagi without going blind, easily strongest after SO6P himself.

 

[Retsu]

Let me explain things to you. Think of MS as a flashlight with weak batteries. Obviously this is going to lose it's "light".

EMS is like taking that flashlight and placing in some self recharging batteries that will never lose said light.

Izanagi and Izanami are like burning out those batteries as the trade off for such a powerful tech.

They'll take away sight regardless as the technique themselves seal the sharingan away.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Sasuke had zetsu inside of him ¬_____¬ ???

What do you mean by that