Susano'o is still incomplete

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The Susano'o is currently a jutsu, rather than a standalone living thing like the Biju. It was originally supposed to represent a guardian diety, according to the databook.
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Originally, Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu are described in a similar manner to the Rikudo Sage's Inton and Yoton.
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One represents the physical world and light, while the other represents the spiritual world and darkness. The two together, Onmyoton, allows for the creation of life.

So, the impression is that the Uchiha can use both Inton and Yoton, which is crazy, right? Well, no. All shinobi are capable of Inton and Yoton; they are born from the spiritual and physical energy. The difference with the Uchiha and Senju is, the Rikudo Sage can combine the two to create Onmyoton. That power was divided between the two clans, not the elements that make up the power.

Therefore, Susano'o does not represent the combination of the two powers. It's halfway there, instead. The Uchiha can create the form; something made of flesh and bones.
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But without the ability to use Yin and Yang together, the Susano'o is just a jutsu.

This is where the solution comes in.

It is commonly assumed that Orochimaru was looking to gain the Rinnegan. But, what if there was a kind of substitute for Senju dna, that gives a person the powers of the Rikudo Sage? Without actually having Senju dna?

Enter: Sage mode.

The thing to remember is that "Senju" and "Uchiha" are just spinoffs of the Shinju's original dna. What's not important is "Senju" and "Uchiha". What's important is the potential for Sage mode. Senju and Uchiha are merely a gateway, not what's behind the gate. It activates the body and amplifies many powers. Jugo is a user of "Sage transformation", which he called Kabuto's Sage mode.

Sage transformation is actually closer to the 10 tails than the usual Sage mode is. About as close as Hashirama's Mokuton.
With the power of the Sage arts, Kabuto considered himself very close to the Rikudo Sage.
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With the 10 tails, Obito gained the power of Onmyoton, and only natural energy was a serious threat to him.
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The purpose of Orochimaru's experimentation with Sasuke, was to create another "Rikudo Sage". He failed at doing this with Danzo.
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Madara was barely more successful, gaining the Rinnegan in old age.
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But these are not ideal. Orchimaru and Kabuto alike, wanted to learn the secrets of the creation during their life. They did not have the option of simply taking Senju dna and waiting. There had to be another option.
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Orochimaru did his experiments and knew what worked, and what didn't. He had a purpose in giving the Curse mark to Sasuke. Kabuto had a purpose in mastering Sage transformation. This all came running back to the forefront.
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This is how Sasuke "surpasses" Madara. This is where the scroll comes in.
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I do not favor the idea of Sasuke getting the Rinnegan, but I see it happening as a "Rinnegan mode", IE Sasuke gaining the Rinnegan whenever he is using Sage power.

But getting back to the main point, I believe Senjutsu has the potential to complete the Susano'o:
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Again: Tsukuyomi(Dark; mental) and Amaterasu(Light; physical). The Rikudo Sage was both a destroyer and a creator. Amaterasu destroyed Kabuto's Sage jutsu.
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Coincidentally, while Jinchuriki Obito was vulnerable mainly to Sage jutsu, he was still damaged by Amaterasu, which is half of Onmyoton.
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A similar symbology was given to the Izanagi and Izanami.

TL;DR:
Susano'o can be completed by using Kabuto's Sage jutsu
Sasuke may awaken the Rinnegan by gaining Sage power

 
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Great thread, + rep.
 

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WTF ??

sasuke cant get SM because he lacks Powerful body with huge pool of chakra U_U
 

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NF members > NB

we can't adapt to this high level thread.

Incorrect, NF is merely more filled with Sasuke Fanboys like the OP, Jeanne, Klue, Addy, etc.

And for your enlightenment, these people have been spouting this Rinnegan nonsense for so long, like Sasuke went to the Naka Shrine to read the Tablet with his EMS to finally awaken the Rinnegan.
 

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My only reason to read this is because you had Viz scans. Where can you read all chapters only in viz? Wanna read Jinchuuriki Obito again with that sh*t

Incorrect, NF is merely more filled with Sasuke Fanboys like the OP, Jeanne, Klue, Addy, etc.

And for your enlightenment, these people have been spouting this Rinnegan nonsense for so long, like Sasuke went to the Naka Shrine to read the Tablet with his EMS to finally awaken the Rinnegan.
Nonsense? It makes sense... Much more sense than your ''Rikudou sennin is an Uzumaki'' - threads.
 

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Senjutsu has shown to have no relation with the Rinnegan.

Besides, Sasuke already possessed a psuedo-sennin mode via curse mark, meaning his body was able to handle senjutsu.

From what you're saying, his body would have already awakened the Rinnegan and gained a complete Susanoo when Juugo shared his Chakra with Sasuke in a recent chapter.
 

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Incorrect, NF is merely more filled with Sasuke Fanboys like the OP, Jeanne, Klue, Addy, etc.

And for your enlightenment, these people have been spouting this Rinnegan nonsense for so long, like Sasuke went to the Naka Shrine to read the Tablet with his EMS to finally awaken the Rinnegan.

Just like Cuutie Juubi did.
Thinking that the 'one's who know everything' was Izuna or Sasuke from the future, right? :yeah:
 

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Senjutsu has shown to have no relation with the Rinnegan.

Besides, Sasuke already possessed a psuedo-sennin mode via curse mark, meaning his body was able to handle senjutsu.

From what you're saying, his body would have already awakened the Rinnegan and gained a complete Susanoo when Juugo shared his Chakra with Sasuke in a recent chapter.
This is Kishimoto's manga. It's full of surprises.
 

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greedy greedy uchiha fans never satisfied with the power ups they get always wanting more tsk tsk U_U
 

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No, this is merely an agenda to elevate their "Lord Sasuke" over "Nardo" (whom they "affectionally" call Naruto as)
'Lord Sasuke' is canon. Check out the viz scan for this page.

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This is Kishimoto's manga. It's full of surprises.

Ofcourse it is, but that could be said with every theory then; how does one discern the valid and the invalid with that excuse?
 
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