For people who think that Naruto has relied on Kurama too much

[AlphaScythian]

Just look at Pain to the earth's post beneath your original post. The eyes didn't really do anything. They were just angry eyes. Naruto did all the work in this one.

This eyes are testament of kurama's chakra.

 

[chaos control]

This eyes are testament of kurama's chakra.

I know that. However, Naruto got no speed boost from this and he did nothing in that battle that he couldn't do without Kurama's chakara. This is why I say that the eyes only signified that Naruto was angry in this battle. He did not actually use them for power or battle related purposes. He can use rasen shuriken in pure base state. Also, the eyes, like the nine tails state only came when Naruto got mad. Therefore, Naruto could not control this.

 

[villain55]

Bottom line, I am a little b***h! Can't do nothing right without my boyfriend giving me assistance.


Fact: Naruto would be stronger then Sasuke if it wasn't for Kurama.

You speak the truth young one

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

whenever nardo went angry he got those eyes. dont lie to yourself. and take a step towards reallity

THIs a mistake in manga ....Ok if i agree with you then can you tell me the manga in which sasuke didnt used Itachi's MS?
or ITachi didnt used Shisui eyes....

BTW KURAMA IS THE NARUTO's own power because kurama in naruto since his birth plus naruto trained hard to control kurama and he defeated kurama by SM...

WHAT ABOUT SASUKE/ITACHI???? they didnt trained for anything .....

DONT LIE TO YOURSELF and accept the reality kido

 

[saw2097]

People often forget that Naruto suffered a lot because of Kurama:

Being treated like dirt by the village, no parents, having his skin burned off, and trying to take Naruto over.

Its funny how people forget the negatives of being a Jinchuriki when they list the positives.


Edit: Also I notice that people convienently forget that most of Naruto's enemies are all extraordinarily powerful ninja.


Tell me how many 16 year old characters can fight Pain without help of some kind, or 5 other Tailed Beasts, or Obito, or Madara, or Kakazu (who Kakashi couldn't fight alone), or any of the people who Naruto has fought.

The 9 tails is just counter balance to the years of experience they have on him, even without it he is a very talented ninja.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I know that. However, Naruto got no speed boost from this and he did nothing in that battle that he couldn't do without Kurama's chakara. This is why I say that the eyes only signified that Naruto was angry in this battle. He did not actually use them for power or battle related purposes. He can use rasen shuriken in pure base state. Also, the eyes, like the nine tails state only came when Naruto got mad. Therefore, Naruto could not control this.

Ofc he got speed boost. This is how kurama's chakra work, even thou this wasnt big empowerment.

 

[-Punk-]

I find it pathetic how only the Naruto fanbase agrees with this , Naruto has been using Kuramas chakra for most of the series , is it bad ? no is not , it is his power (so don't start with me ) & this war/Jubi arcs he completely spammed it like drugs & the alliance have been relying on him too damn much , you'll see now that they're not protected anymore how fvcked up they really are .

So , how about we stop making excuse for Naruto & see what he can do without it first .

 

[chaos control]

Ofc he got speed boost. This is how kurama's chakra work, even thou this wasnt big empowerment.

I saw no speed boost whatsoever. Even so, you also have to take into account the fact that he had been training all day to master rasenshuriken. Therefore he would have already used up a good amount of his own chakara. The eyes were due to anger, so they were involuntary. Even if they were voluntary, it would have just been to replace the chakara he lost during training. As I said before, he did nothing in this battle that he couldn't do without Kurama.

 

[chaos control]

I find it pathetic how only the Naruto fanbase agrees with this , Naruto has been using Kuramas chakra for most of the series , is it bad ? no is not , it is his power (so don't start with me ) & this war/Jubi arcs he completely spammed it like drugs & the alliance have been relying on him too damn much , you'll see now that they're not protected anymore how fvcked up they really are .

So , how about we stop making excuse for Naruto & see what he can do without it first .

No Kurama has been using Naruto for most of the series. Not the other way around.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I saw no speed boost whatsoever. Even so, you also have to take into account the fact that he had been training all day to master rasenshuriken. Therefore he would have already used up a good amount of his own chakara. The eyes were due to anger, so they were involuntary. Even if they were voluntary, it would have just been to replace the chakara he lost during training. As I said before, he did nothing in this battle that he couldn't do without Kurama.

So you are saying that speed and strength boost werent necessary to make that FRS connect? Involuntary boost makes it even worse, makes naruto have it always the plot way. Now lets drop it as i dont care.

 

[paratise]

Reason for discrimination is not something that is a blessing.

Women did not have this in our history, neither racially discriminated people nor people who have been loathed for different beliefs. No one had sources of energy that can wreck the shit up if it is needed; they need to rely on theirselves. Naruto is not like that, he has a charger within himself that can provide the counter power against people who had assaults on him. Imagine someone decides to kick the shit out of kid Naruto to death, he rages and gets rıd of the problem.

Also he did use Kurama's chakra, he was not skilled or worked hard enough to compete with the likes of Haku or Neji, but he could due to sort of power that can Charge him up to take him to hights. He saw Haku killing his friend and raged. That was all his work against Haku. He "never gave up" then miraclously opened chakra points. When Lee fought against Neji he did not have a powerful demon to leech on sucks for him. Yet Naruto can talk up as if he is the underdog who changed himself. He is someone who has source of leeching No other "underdog" can have.

 

[-Punk-]

No Kurama has been using Naruto for most of the series. Not the other way around.

Forest of death .

Neji Vs Naruto .

.Haku Vs Naruto .

.Naruto Vs Oro.

.Naruto Vs Pain .

.For the SA .

.Naruto Vs Deidara .

Take a gander .

 

[damon hunt]

He really hasn't. You guys do realize that he has only had BM for one night in manga time right? It has really probably only been a few hours at most! Maybe even just a few minutes. How could he possibly have relied on Kurama too much when he just got the mode that night? He just got KCM one or two days ago in manga time (and he could use that mode independently of Kurama's will, so that mode didn't even rely on Kurama). Any usage of Kurama before this came in the form of that besserk nine tails state that resulted from extreme rage. Naruto never went into that state voluntarily. Kurama simply fed off of Naruto's rage, and Naruto's mental weakness and instability at those moments allowed Kurama's will and power to take over. Therefore, those States were forced upon Naruto. Naruto didn't rely on them or choose to go into them. The only other usage of Kurama were those few times in part one where Naruto asked Kurama for chakara, and that was only about 4 times (against Neji, against Gaara (who was also using his bijuu) against Itachi/Kisame, and to summon Gamabunta in order to save himself when Jiraiya pushed him off of a cliff. The battle with Haku and the instance at the valley of end both came from rage.) In conclusion, aside from those 4 times in part 1, Naruto really never relied on Kurama that much until these most recent war battles. Everything else was involuntary and Naruto can not be faulted for those (so cut the guy some slack!). If you really want to criticise someone, criticise Bee. He has been a perfect jinchuuriki for years and he uses Gyuki quite often. The same goes for Yagura the fourth mizukage. Criticise Shino and the whole aburame clan because those bugs are living beings too and Shino's clan always relies on them. Criticise the Inuzuka clan because they rely a lot on their dogs. Criticise Hiruzen because he uses Enma quite often. Critcise Tsunade and Jiraiya because they summon toads and slugs a lot. Criticise Orochimaru because he uses a lot of snakes and he switches bodies. Criticise Nagato because he sometimes summons the animals of the animal path. Criticise Hanzo because he uses that salamander. I'm sure you get my point by now.

mate in every fight that he comes to lose he uses kurana hell if it wasnt for kurama he wouldnt have survived past the first part of this series go see it every single time from fighting neji to haku to sasuke to orochimaru to pain every single he faced that outclassed he had to use kurama to win

 

[chaos control]

Forest of death .

Neji Vs Naruto .

.Haku Vs Naruto .

.Naruto Vs Oro.

.Naruto Vs Pain .

.For the SA .

.Naruto Vs Deidara .

Take a gander .

All of those that you mentioned except for the SA revolved around Naruto's anger. Kurama fed on the anger and forcibly came out. Therefore Kurama was using Naruto.

 

[Meekz89]

Kishi should have named the story Sasuke. I've never seen slouch hate for a main character.

 

[chaos control]

mate in every fight that he comes to lose he uses kurana hell if it wasnt for kurama he wouldnt have survived past the first part of this series go see it every single time from fighting neji to haku to sasuke to orochimaru to pain every single he faced that outclassed he had to use kurama to win

Yet it wasn't Naruto's choice except for now and the few times I mentioned. Kurama forced himself upon Naruto. Why aren't you people getting mad and critcising all the other people I listed that are actually worse than Naruto in this aspect?

 

[Anorien16]

Yeah ..... Naruto is the Jinkchuriki of Kurama, Hashirama is a blessed Senju, Sasuke, Madara, Itachi, Obito are Uchiha etc etc etc ...... unfair or no the powers comes with their identities themselves ..... only dumb people actually makes a fuss about this.

 

[damon hunt]

I saw no speed boost whatsoever. Even so, you also have to take into account the fact that he had been training all day to master rasenshuriken. Therefore he would have already used up a good amount of his own chakara. The eyes were due to anger, so they were involuntary. Even if they were voluntary, it would have just been to replace the chakara he lost during training. As I said before, he did nothing in this battle that he couldn't do without Kurama.

this sentence is ****ed up if he didnt have kurama he wouldnt have survived obito he would have died inside the barrier along with the whole SA

how could he have survived this without kurama :

Spoiler

see its proven U_U even he acknowledges it U_U

 

[chaos control]

this sentence is ****ed up if he didnt have kurama he wouldnt have survived obito he would have died inside the barrier along with the whole SA

how could he have survived this without kurama :

Spoiler

see its proven U_U even he acknowledges it U_U

I was talking about the battle with Kakazu.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

this sentence is ****ed up if he didnt have kurama he wouldnt have survived obito he would have died inside the barrier along with the whole SA

how could he have survived this without kurama :

Spoiler

see its proven U_U even he acknowledges it U_U

first scan of yours proves that naruto's kyuubi chakra cloak saved whole SA's @sses including big @ss of sasuke too