[Discussion] Gedo Mazo

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I've noticed that so far out of all 3 Rinnegan holders, only Obito was able to summon the whole body of the Gedo Mazo.

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Does this mean anything?
 

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I am guessing that they all are able to summon the entire body, Madara has already done it once when he summoned it from the Moon. They just don't have any reason to summon the entire body at the time.
 

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Everybody with the rinnegan can do exact same stuff. It grants them very same jutsus and stuff.. LIKE ghetto mazou.
 

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Everybody with the rinnegan can do exact same stuff. It grants them very same jutsus and stuff.. LIKE ghetto mazou.

The Rinnegan doesn't automatically grant the holder all its powers. At least not fake owners such as Obito and Nagato, as Obito wasn't able to use all of its jutsus and neither was Nagato.
 

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obito summoned gedo mezo, fodders summoned Diglet...
if you dont believe me... just pokedex it...
 

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The Mazō is clearly attached to the ground, meaning it has a full body.

Kakashi stated that without a neck, it shouldn't be able to survive, meaning that it is 'alive'.

It can't be ripped apart, hence why Obito tried to protect it.
 

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You can see it sprouting from the ground, meaning that it's body must be underground. Kakashi ripped an arm off with Kamui, so that means since we can't see the other whole arm, it has to be in the ground for it to exist.

There is just no need of summoning something so large when all he needs is the chains.
 

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The Rinnegan doesn't automatically grant the holder all its powers. At least not fake owners such as Obito and Nagato, as Obito wasn't able to use all of its jutsus and neither was Nagato.

Nagato mastered 5 elements, where is your proof he didnt know those jutsus? yea right you aint got one. " One who gains the Rinnegan has access to a multitude of abilities. On its own, the Rinnegan allows the user to see chakra, including otherwise hidden barriers, such as the one which surrounded Konohagakure. The holder of these eyes have the potential to completely master all five basic nature transformations that form the basis of ninjutsu. " :hint: And even madara himself is also a "fake" rinnegan user, he needed hashiramas DNA to even unlock that eye and he died after that.. sage of the six paths is one and only original user of rinnegan.
 

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All users are fodders except Nagato
 

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Nagato mastered 5 elements, where is your proof he didnt know those jutsus? yea right you aint got one. " One who gains the Rinnegan has access to a multitude of abilities. On its own, the Rinnegan allows the user to see chakra, including otherwise hidden barriers, such as the one which surrounded Konohagakure. The holder of these eyes have the potential to completely master all five basic nature transformations that form the basis of ninjutsu. " And even madara himself is also a "fake" rinnegan user, he needed hashiramas DNA to even unlock that eye and he died after that.. sage of the six paths is one and only original user of rinnegan.

My proof? Its called logic. If Nagato was able to use jutsus such as Rinbo: Hengoku, don't you think he would've used it? The only logical reason as to why he didn't is because he wasn't able to preform it, and Madara has shown that one only requires a single Rinnegan to use the said jutsu. Madara isn't a fake user of the Rinnegan.. He is the second person to achieve Rinnegan in all of the Narutoverse. Madara unlocked the Rinnegan by the same basis as the Rikudou Sennin did, by having a said bloodline. Madara is an Uchiha, which means that he was born with half of the Rikudou Sennin's bloodline, so he retrieved the other half of the lineage from Hashirama Senju , namely his DNA.
 

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All users are fodders except Nagato

Bullsh*t, fanboyism, and lies all in one post.

Obito was able to control a Gedo filled with bijuus (which makes it harder) and used a mobile Gedo because he does not have Susanoo as a defense.

Madara used 9 chain seal to beat 9 beast simultaneously.

Nagato used it once and it permanently damaged him, couldn't lift the full body and needed help from akatsuki just to use nine dragon seal.


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if it wasnt for the sages mom eating the fruit he would of never unlocked the rinnengan, she stole power, and it was passed on to him...

just because Madara learned the true secrets of his clan/bloodline blah blah blah. he still unlocked it on his own. He even critisized Nagato taking years to gather the pets when Madara is almost getting them in one damn chapter.
 

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if it wasnt for the sages mom eating the fruit he would of never unlocked the rinnengan, she stole power, and it was passed on to him...

just because Madara learned the true secrets of his clan/bloodline blah blah blah. he still unlocked it on his own. He even critisized Nagato taking years to gather the pets when Madara is almost getting them in one damn chapter.

This.

Most likely the smartest thing I have heard from this forum in months.
 

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if it wasnt for the sages mom eating the fruit he would of never unlocked the rinnengan, she stole power, and it was passed on to him...

just because Madara learned the true secrets of his clan/bloodline blah blah blah. he still unlocked it on his own. He even critisized Nagato taking years to gather the pets when Madara is almost getting them in one damn chapter.

Genetics and knowledge allows you to solo the narutoverse.

Completely unfair
 

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My proof? Its called logic. If Nagato was able to use jutsus such as Rinbo: Hengoku, don't you think he would've used it? The only logical reason as to why he didn't is because he wasn't able to preform it, and Madara has shown that one only requires a single Rinnegan to use the said jutsu. Madara isn't a fake user of the Rinnegan.. He is the second person to achieve Rinnegan in all of the Narutoverse. Madara unlocked the Rinnegan by the same basis as the Rikudou Sennin did, by having a said bloodline. Madara is an Uchiha, which means that he was born with half of the Rikudou Sennin's bloodline, so he retrieved the other half of the lineage from Hashirama Senju , namely his DNA.

"Logic" it's okay for me but you know, there are something that you missed the point.
This is just analysis of your point of view, no offence.


There is only one original owner and user of Rinnegan whose name is Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki. If we're talking about originality. That guy is Rinnegan himself.

... and the other hand Madara is the fake user himself. He wasn't born with Senju DNA, he stole it. He can't be same level as him. We see that kind of stuff all of the time in Manga.

There is no difference between Obito and Madara about Rinnegan. People have only one excuse about awaking Rinnegan via Madara. Yeah yeah yeah.... We know Obito can awake it of course but in future.

Obito hold the reigns of power Time and Space. I'm sure you will agree with that power of time/space OP every idea.

It's pointless to argue : Why didn't Nagato use that jutsu or those jutsus, isn't that obvious ? it's called "Plothole"
I don't wanna mention about last week that Marada used Sussanoo without eyes. I believe you logic will understand what I told.


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Regarding why Nagato didn't use Hengoku, I say he could've done it in an off panel event/chapter. It's also possible that even if read the Uchiha Tablet, it might've not been written on there. What I mean is, when I Madara summoned the Gedo Mazo after he awakened the Rinnegan, maybe the Juubi told him about Rinnegan techniques not written on the stone (it's a stretch, however, as we have seen, Narutoverse logic often is distorted and even subject to Plot no Jutsu).
 
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