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The rustling jimmies gorilla thing.

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Nailed it.

OT: Congrats OP, you've proven that Naruto fans will always take the bait Lol
 

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You spin it so it seems Sasuke hasn't worked for anything and Naruto earns everything.

In what way did I spin it?

He got his sharingan powers without needing to train for them

Not saying Sasuke never trained his jutsu, just not for sharingan abilities which are his most powerful techniques.
 

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When people say Sasuke never worked for anything, they are really only looking at CM and (E)MS. The truth is that Sasuke worked very hard, though not so much for his major powerups.
Things the manga shows Sasuke training very hard:
Fire Style
Chidori
Shuriken Jutsu
Chidori Stream
Jutsu which Sasuke most probably trained off screen:
Genjutsu
Kirin
body flicker jutsu
summoning jutsu
 

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that Naruto's going to be given a power-up.

Naruto fans are always saying that he trained for his power and that Sauce was always handed power (even when Naruto was given Kurama :rolleyes:) and now Naruto is going to be GIVEN on Hax power from the Bijuu.

So much for hard work.

another sausage jerker wow.

naruto worked his ass off to control kurama's power. Even after that it took awhile for kurama to acknowledge his power.
 

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When people say Sasuke never worked for anything, they are really only looking at CM and (E)MS. The truth is that Sasuke worked very hard, though not so much for his major powerups.
Things the manga shows Sasuke training very hard:
Fire Style
Chidori
Shuriken Jutsu
Chidori Stream
Jutsu which Sasuke most probably trained off screen:
Genjutsu
Kirin
body flicker jutsu
summoning jutsu

seems legit.
 
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When people say Sasuke never worked for anything, they are really only looking at CM and (E)MS. The truth is that Sasuke worked very hard, though not so much for his major powerups.
Things the manga shows Sasuke training very hard:
Fire Style
Chidori
Shuriken Jutsu
Chidori Stream
Jutsu which Sasuke most probably trained off screen:
Genjutsu
Kirin
body flicker jutsu
summoning jutsu

Dem sharingan feats. Free power up :I
 

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When people say Sasuke never worked for anything, they are really only looking at CM and (E)MS. The truth is that Sasuke worked very hard, though not so much for his major powerups.
Things the manga shows Sasuke training very hard:
Fire Style
Chidori
Shuriken Jutsu
Chidori Stream
Jutsu which Sasuke most probably trained off screen:
Genjutsu
Kirin
body flicker jutsu
summoning jutsu
almost all jutsu for except kirin and shunshin useless in current situation... so sasuke not traiing for useful jutsu.
 

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almost all jutsu for except kirin and shunshin useless in current situation... so sasuke not traiing for useful jutsu.

That may be true but I was really arguing against the idea that Sasuke never works hard at all. I was saying that despite the powers that Sasuke recieved, he still has trained hard throughout his life.
 

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Yes because he has never done anything to deserve their trust or power.

Unlike Sasuke who has worked so hard to get his EMS
Or Madara who has worked so hard to get Hashiramas Cells, Hashiramas Senjutsu.

Face it, in this manga there is 1 character who has actually worked hard and created his own Jutsu with his own power.
It is Tobirama.
Now, will everyone shut up with Borrowed/Given power ?
 

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In what way did I spin it?

He got his sharingan powers without needing to train for them

Not saying Sasuke never trained his jutsu, just not for sharingan abilities which are his most powerful techniques.
I understand but most Uchiha don't even get the Sharingan its not the Hyuuga's Byakugan where everybody just gets it from birth. Although most people talk about the Sharingan as its just given even though Naruto was born with arguably the strongest body in the NV he gives out chakra and spams ninjutsu like it doesn't even use chakra.

Be honest and just look at it this way, naruto never ask for kurama, train for sm and kcm, bm was given.
Sasuke went for oro for power and used drugs to enhance his abilities, I believe itachi help him unlock ms, ask for itachis eyes.
I don't really care but too many ppl bash naruto cause of kurama, mostly sasuke fans without looking at what sasuke have done.

I know he didn't ask for Kurama just like Sasuke didn't ask to be born into the Uchiha clan but Kurama is there(not really anymore atm) just like Sasuke's eyes and just like part 1 before actually getting bm from Kurama he didn't train for kcm etc he just took all the power from him. Before Naruto could for the most part control it he always asked Kurama for the power.
In the end though Naruto mastered shadow clones, Rasengan(variants) and SM while Sasuke mastered his eye techs and 2 chakra natures before most people were even allowed to use 1. Although im ok with Naruto and Sasuke both getting their share of freebies because in the end they both train really hard for they are trying to achieve
 

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I understand but most Uchiha don't even get the Sharingan its not the Hyuuga's Byakugan where everybody just gets it from birth. Although most people talk about the Sharingan as its just given even though Naruto was born with arguably the strongest body in the NV he gives out chakra and spams ninjutsu like it doesn't even use chakra.


Can you name one Uchiha that didn't awaken the sharingan?

Sasuke spams amaterasu likes it's nothing, so I don't see your point. Being born with large chakra reserves isn't the same as being born with special abilities which make you one of the strongest characters.

And like I said, Naruto had to learn how to control Kurama and eventually make peace with him, which was a much harder road than simply gaining abilities through maturity and eye surgery.
 

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you havent seen powerup threads?

-sasuke getting flying susanoo as a powerup
-sasuke getting time reversing ability as a powerup
-sasuke getting rinnegan because he bit karin

the list goes on
 
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