How powerful is Naruto on his own?

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

SM naruto will show more new feats U_U

 

[AGoodBoy]

Top 10 material.

 

[HiddenSound]

Your kidding right?, we are talking about Bm naruto right?, perhaps am reading something else.

He doesn't have Bijū Mode anymore...
And Deva Path did it very quickly. If they have intel or if they think "Summonings = bad", then, they, depending on the opponent, could quickly kill Ma or Pa.

 

[Pwner10144]

He doesn't have Bijū Mode anymore...
And Deva Path did it very quickly. If they have intel or if they think "Summonings = bad", then, they, depending on the opponent, could quickly kill Ma or Pa.

Hold on which naruto are we talking about, sage?.

 

[Troyg39]

What if someone, I dunno, kills Ma and/or Pa before they use Frog Song?

Hashirama
Madara
Juubito
Nagato
Sasuke
Itachi
Tobirama

These are the only ninja who I think could have a chance at stopping Ma an Pa before they can do frog song. And it's not even a guarantee for all of them. Plus remember Ma and Pa can now fuse with Naruto since Kurama is gone. And Naruto has access to all those other toads like he did against Nagato. Add in the fact that he's shown significant improvements in battle strategy and it gives him an even better shot. Clearly he's top 10 as this is only 7 ninja on the list above

 

[Kαmi]

He doesn't have Bijū Mode anymore...
And Deva Path did it very quickly. If they have intel or if they think "Summonings = bad", then, they, depending on the opponent, could quickly kill Ma or Pa.

People are overrating the shit out of Frog Song right now. That jutsu that takes prep and comes from two summonings that Naruto has never summoned himself. Desperation ain't a pretty site Lol

 

[HiddenSound]

Hashirama
Madara
Juubito
Nagato
Sasuke
Itachi
Tobirama

These are the only ninja who I think could have a chance at stopping Ma an Pa before they can do frog song. And it's not even a guarantee for all of them. Plus remember Ma and Pa can now fuse with Naruto since Kurama is gone. And Naruto has access to all those other toads like he did against Nagato. Add in the fact that he's shown significant improvements in battle strategy and it gives him an even better shot. Clearly he's top 10 as this is only 7 ninja on the list above

Pretty good points, I didn't remember all of that.

People are overrating the shit out of Frog Song right now. That jutsu that takes prep and comes from two summonings that Naruto has never summoned himself. Desperation ain't a pretty site Lol

While it clearly isn't as great as some people claim, I don't think it should be underestimated either.

 

[Wolfus]

No, KCM remains and it's yet to be confirmed tbh, other BC is all gone now. Lol

There is no evidence to claim that the other bijuus chakra are gone. We didn't even see the other chakras getting sucked. So we cant say that.
As for KCM, we have yet to see. It's logical if he keeps KCM, as he took that part of kurama's chakra and separated from the kyuubi. However, madara might have sucked that KCM chakra as well. So we must wait to see.

 

[Minator93]

What if someone, I dunno, kills Ma and/or Pa before they use Frog Song?

Ma and Pa can join bodies this time. Also they're in SM as well, can sense every attack even before attack takes place Lol

 

[AGoodBoy]

Ma and Pa can join bodies this time. Also they're in SM as well, can sense every attack even before attack takes place Lol

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Doesn't mean they can dodge something like this

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[Minator93]

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Doesn't mean they can dodge something like this

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Susanoo arrow is a fodder compared to SM, even Kabuto shat on it Lol

3rd Raikages stronger and faster attack was soloed by SM Clone Lol

3rd Raikage's 1 finger attack > Susanoo arrow U_U

 

[End of Days]

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how powerful is sasuke on his own?

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[AGoodBoy]

Susanoo arrow is a fodder compared to SM, even Kabuto shat on it Lol

3rd Raikages stronger and faster attack was soloed by SM Clone Lol

3rd Raikage's 1 finger attack > Susanoo arrow U_U

That's great and all, but that has nothing to do with those 2 toads.

nor was it ever suggested that naruto's SM (based on a frog) is as agile as kabuto's SM(based on agile snakes).
nor was it ever suggested 3rd raikage was faster than a susano'o arrow.

Lot of opinion; little fact.

 

[take it easy]

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how powerful is sasuke on his own?

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sasuke on fodder lever or more without itachi eyes=D=D

 

[Optimistic]

Susanoo arrow is a fodder compared to SM, even Kabuto shat on it Lol

Different Sage Modes, Naruto couldn't react to Madara's shunshin

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Sharingan can predict V1 level speed

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and so can SM naruto

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but the great Kakashi couldn't side step the arrow he resorted to kamui

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ok so basically Naruto can handle anything around V1 level but anything above he can't even physically react(not even able to block madara's attack).
SM Naruto isn't dodging arrows he isn't Kabuto.

 

[End of Days]

Different Sage Modes, Naruto couldn't react to Madara's shunshin

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Sharingan can predict V1 level speed

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and so can SM naruto

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but the great Kakashi couldn't side step the arrow he resorted to kamui

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ok so basically Naruto can handle anything around V1 level but anything above he can't even physically react(not even able to block madara's attack).
SM Naruto isn't dodging arrows he isn't Kabuto.

Sage mode or Sharingan isnt an absolute defense, you can still get hit if you arent paying attention or you get surprised

Kabuto got hit by a sword by itachi when he was distracted and again got hit by a susanoo sword
Sasuke got hit by killer bee's swords even though he dodged killer bee in V1 cloak

 

[salamander uchiha]

Naruto is no match for sasuke he admitted inferioirty to an almost blindd sasuke. And he had access to sm he said i need to borrow kuramas power if i am even to stand a chance so set off on his quest to gather it. And what makes people thing sage mode allows to sense jutsu i havent seen anyone sensing jutsu except for madara. Foderuto is in any number after 20. And thres no infinite sage mode you need infinte chakra to mix it in at 1/3. So unless naruto is an edo he doesnt have infinte anything. And if hes overloaded hell become a toad or stone. And hawks eat toads so ka and pa are useless and sasuke will arrow them or hawk them or snake them.
According to orochimaru sasuke shall surpass madara and madara is tge second sage so logically he shall become strongest in the narutoverse.

 

[Optimistic]

Sage mode or Sharingan isnt an absolute defense, you can still get hit if you arent paying attention or you get surprised

Invalid, Naruto's SM has sensing abilities no matter what Naruto is always alert to his surrounding so that excuse for his failure in blocking a shunshin can't be sugar coated.

Kabuto got hit by a sword by itachi when he was distracted and again got hit by a susanoo sword

You mean the same sword that chipped of his horn? Kabuto dodged it simple as he said that he isn't accustomed to his horns thus surprised that it got chipped off. His dodge was more successful than Naruto who couldn't even block nevermind dodge.

Sasuke got hit by killer bee's swords even though he dodged killer bee in V1 cloak

Sasuke got hit because his movements wasn't predictable, bee using his V1 lariat is predictable since here's going in a straight line.Giving Naruto DSM feats makes no sense he has Frog Sage mode not Dragon.

 

[End of Days]

Invalid, Naruto's SM has sensing abilities no matter what Naruto is always alert to his surrounding so that excuse for his failure in blocking a shunshin can't be sugar coated.

Fukasaku and shima are also sages and yet they couldnt detect asura path

call it plot but nothing is absolute

You mean the same sword that chipped of his horn? Kabuto dodged it simple as he said that he isn't accustomed to his horns thus surprised that it got chipped off. His dodge was more successful than Naruto who couldn't even block nevermind dodge.

he got hit plain and simple, i know it wasnt a critical hit, neither of the uchiha bros so much as damaged him until izanami

wrong, he blocked it

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Sasuke got hit because his movements wasn't predictable, bee using his V1 lariat is predictable since here's going in a straight line.Giving Naruto DSM feats makes no sense he has Frog Sage mode not Dragon.

exactly if something unexpected comes up even sharingan and sage mode can fail

third raikage, susanoo arrow all move in a straight line easy to predict

 

[Optimistic]

Fukasaku and shima are also sages and yet they couldnt detect asura path

call it plot but nothing is absolute

The whole series is plot. < . <

he got hit plain and simple, i know it wasnt a critical hit, neither of the uchiha bros so much as damaged him until izanami

wrong, he blocked it

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My bad, but it still doesn't change the fact that enton arrow/normal arrow > Madara's shunshin. Naruto has no answer to it since he lacks the ability to even dodge it. Sasuke can spam arrows like he usually does and take the victory, Naruto can only block a shunshin he'll most likely not even be able to lift his arms up against the arrow. When Naruto gets hit he'll have a huge hole in his chest

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exactly if something unexpected comes up even sharingan and sage mode can fail

Sage mode allows the user to sense unlike the sharingan, Kabuto can fight with sensing alone so can Madara with his SM but a sharingan user cannot predict moves unless they're in their line of sight(although Itachi is a special case).

third raikage, susanoo arrow all move in a straight line easy to predict

Easy to predict and yet Kakashi couldn't dodge it, if something is going to fast predictable or not the victim will get hit in this case its Naruto.