Uchiha Sasuke & Kyuubi vs Uchiha Madara

[DemonicAvenger]

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Sasuke & Kurama vs Uchiha Madara

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Conditions:

• Sasuke and the Yang Kyuubi have teamed up to fight Madara. Kurama is willing to give Sasuke his full support.
• Madara is his Shumatsu no Tani (Valley of the End) form. He also has the same Kurama he used against Hashirama; though Kurama is not willing to help him and has to be controlled via Genjutsu.

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Intel:

• Manga

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Location:

Madara vs the Bijuu

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Distance:

30 Meters

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Restrictions:

None

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Intent:

The utter destruction of the the others existance

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[KidGamer65]

Wouldn't Yang Kurama be weaker than Full Kurama not only because of the obvious lack of half its power and because there is no Jinchuuriki to focus Kurama's power properly? I don't see how Yang Kurama offering full cooperation to Sasuke makes anything different.

So I'll say Madara takes this mid difficulty, they both have PS but his Kurama has the superior offense.

 

[miromiro]

Team 1 wins.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Wouldn't Yang Kurama be weaker than Full Kurama not only because of the obvious lack of half its power and because there is no Jinchuuriki to focus Kurama's power properly? I don't see how Yang Kurama offering full cooperation to Sasuke makes anything different.

So I'll say Madara takes this mid difficulty, they both have PS but his Kurama has the superior offense.

Not neccesarily. Naruto's use of Yang Kurama is superior to what Madara was doing with Full Kurama. Given that Kurama can use his power to the same extent that Naruto can; Yang Kurama has the upperhand against his full self due to Full Kurama's power not being properly used by Madara.

Yang Kurama giving his cooperation to Sasuke gives Sasuke access to Chakra sharing. While Madara doesn't have that (Didn't show it or hasn't shown any knowledge of being able to get it out of Kurama)

Sasuke's superior Genjutsu could also be able to disrupt Madara's controlling Genjutsu.

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I actually have Sasuke winning this​

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[KidGamer65]

Not neccesarily. Naruto's use of Yang Kurama is superior to what Madara was doing with Full Kurama. Given that Kurama can use his power to the same extent that Naruto can; Yang Kurama has the upperhand against his full self due to Full Kurama's power not being properly used by Madara.

Yang Kurama giving his cooperation to Sasuke gives Sasuke access to Chakra sharing. While Madara doesn't have that (Didn't show it or hasn't shown any knowledge of being able to get it out of Kurama)

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I actually have Sasuke winning this​

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You sure? I could have sworn it was the fact Naruto is a Jin that makes him much stronger than Kurama alone, just how

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Though I totally forgot about chakra sharing, Sasuke could actually win this.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

You sure? I could have sworn it was the fact Naruto is a Jin that makes him much stronger than Kurama alone, just how

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Though I totally forgot about chakra sharing, Sasuke could actually win this.

There's that; but the Juubi also didn't show any sign of intelligence unlike current Yang Kurama.

Deidara even mentions that the lack of intelligence in a Bijuu makes a massive difference from one with a intelligence. Even attributing the fact that the Akatsuki can even capture the Bijuu to that fact.​

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[KidGamer65]

There's that; but the Juubi also didn't show any sign of intelligence unlike current Yang Kurama.

Deidara even mentions that the lack of intelligence in a Bijuu makes a massive difference from one with a intelligence. Even attributing the fact that the Akatsuki can even capture the Bijuu to that fact.​

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Intelligence most likely prevents it from being a rampant wild animal and allows it to attack rationally, use its best moves when necessary, and think strategically. Like Shukaku, if he lacked intelligence, he never would have been able to make that seal with Gaara to trap Madara.

The power itself probably affected for the better with a Jin to focus its power.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Intelligence most likely prevents it from being a rampant wild animal and allows it to attack rationally, use its best moves when necessary, and think strategically. Like Shukaku, if he lacked intelligence, he never would have been able to make that seal with Gaara to trap Madara.

The power itself probably affected for the better with a Jin to focus its power.

The first part is exactly my point. The second part is the same as the first as well; the power isn't affect its just focused, intelligence can attain the same result.​

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[KidGamer65]

The first part is exactly my point. The second part is the same as the first as well; the power isn't affect its just focused, intelligence can attain the same result.​

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Now I see what you're trying to say. I'll agree that Sasuke wins then, mostly because of chakra sharing.

 

[Bronze]

Madara mid-high difficulty.

While Kyuubi may be willing to help Sasuke, we later realized that Bijuu without Jinchuuriki cannot utilize their full power like the Jinchuuriki can. More ever, Sasuke has the yang Kyuubi which is 7x times inferior to 100% Kyuubi in Madara's possession [

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If Madara and Sasuke fought in Taijutsu while leaving their Bijuu behind, we know Madara would beat Sasuke in Taijutsu as we saw his revival. 100% Kyuubi would completely overwhelm Yang Kyuubi in every aspect. In Ninjutsu battle, Madara has powerful Katons overwhelming most of Sasuke's techniques. Gunbai would deflect each of Sasuke's attacks. If Sasuke had tried to attack 100% Kyuubi, then Madara deflects it with his Susanoo [

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As result, if both had combined their Perfect Susanoo with both Kurama, Madara would still be the victor for several reasons.

1-Madara's PS and Kyuubi are 7x times bigger [

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2-Madara's PS swords combined with 100% Kyuubi TBB will make him the winner. Look at the size of 100% Kurama's TBB:

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Madara an average man is dwarfed by 100% Kurama's TBB. In comparison to Yang Kurama's TBB, Naruto is quite comparable and Naruto and Sasuke are the same size:

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The result of the fight will come down to this as Madara destroys Sasuke and yang Kurama via 12 TBB + 12 blades:

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Madara has greater experience + greater fire-power + and more intelligent.