[Establishing why] EMS Sasuke > Nagato.

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Wasn't this already established before?
 

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not true, sasuke and Itachi's susanoo are like night and day, and sasuke hasn't shown a stabilized PS so until he does he doesn't get credit for having one.
it was a combination attack, your point is invalid.

this is prove you are a hater .

madara shows PS around Kyuubi and everyone goes HE HAS PS! balblalb

sasuke does it and everyone loses there mind

they both have Tengu nose
sasuke wields the sabrè sword and madara Kris sword

both heavey armor.

haters gonne hate
 

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Man, the struggle is real with these comments.
Can't we all agree that it's fair game? I think they're both strong enough to win, but give it a dash of plot and we have Sasuke superior.

OT: We've already been over this versatile. Majority votes go to Sasuke, of course. :rolleyes: Me being one of those bets.
 

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Or, if you meant just one can stop CT, I completely disagree. It took the three strongest long ranged Jutsu of Naruto, Killer B, and Itachi to stop it.

And I wonder if Shinra Tensei could stop Kirin? Dunno. Either way, like you said, it's a very difficult battle.

no. chibaku tensei. GG. If you think sasuke is a battle genius on par with itachi's rational thinking/training (anbu probably helped that) . then you should stop debating. also being uzumaki Nagato can tank damage from amaterasu, and either repel it or absorb it IF it got to that, because like you said he can sense the change in pressure even in edo form, so use bansho tenin ,shinra tensei, chibaku tensei ruins sasuke. He will not be able to destroy CT
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Sasuke's V3 Susanoo sword was capable of cutting a branch 2-3 times the size of the height and width of his Susanoo.
Sasuke's PS should have no trouble destroying a small orb before it gets too strong.

@Hiddensound Killer Bee's TBB alone could've destroyed it.. all of their combined attacks were overkill.

Sure if Nagato can react to Kirin at all.
 

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not true, sasuke and Itachi's susanoo are like night and day, and sasuke hasn't shown a stabilized PS so until he does he doesn't get credit for having one.

Itachi and Sasuke's Susnao'o have no differences at all in terms of physical power and durability, only thing that sets these two apart is the weapons.V1 susano'o broke through a wall Sasuke also did the same . All Susano'o users can use Yasaka Magatama and Susano'o sword.But when it comes to PS which is exclusive to EMS users and there's only 2 EMS users in the series, they seem to have different abilities just cause of the user.Susano'o physical strength differs from versions not the users. Thus meaning Sauske can also swing his blade fast enough to create a devastating shock-wave around Madara's level.

For one I agree with Madara Rules. Garbage explanation.

Perfect Susanoo is the one and only reason Sasuke is above Nagato, messing around with these other techniques like Enton and lower versions of Susanoo isn't going to help here.
And because of this fact people will try their hardest to disprove the fact that Sasuke doesn't have PS despite being obvious as fuc1<.
 
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I still rate Nagato above Sasuke or even EMS Madara...

1-[Sasuke ain't escaping CT]
\Only way Naruto & co. managed to escape CT was Itachi calmness in such condition...
\Any form of Enton ain't stopping CT, it'd certainly keep on burning but the gravity won't be effected and that'll result in Sasuke's own inciniration because he will be pulled up by then|Kirin can't be prepared in such a hurry...
\Nagato can also push Sasuke into CT as Deva did with 6-tailed form...

2-[Amaterasu is "Rubble under my feet"-Madara|Technically the same statement for any Rinnegan user]
\Nagato'd see the charge up for amaterasu...
\Being a ninjutsu even Enton would be absorbed by Preta path...
\Even if hit, Nagato'd simply absorb or throw it away and we know that amaterasu doesn't turn things into ashes instantly so such burns wouldn't matter...
 

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@HiddenSound. An Enton Arrow is enough to stop CT. Sasuke has numerous ways of countering it, but I'm gonna make this simple. An Enton Arrow cannot be stopped by the rocks and it will pierce throught them without any problem at all due to the Enton's properties. As Itachi said, the Enton Arrow would travel to the core itself and pierce it, meaning it gets destroyed.​
 

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All version of Susano'o have the same capabilities.Itachi was able to smash through the wall using V1 so could Sasuke, Madara tanked lava so did Sasuke.V3 Susano'o literally have the same design but Sasuke has a bow and arrow.When he used PS you can see that he has similar sword to Madara's. People on this site will always say 'its Sasuke not Madara' despite the manga showing Susano'o users doing the exact same feats, you and Genki have yet to refute this only thing you guys resort is the Madara not being Sasuke card. I guess Madara's V1 Susano'o is different to Sauske's since its Uchiha Madara, such nonsense.



True since people will disagree regardless so i'll have to wait and see.

@GenkiDama He can use Bijuu sized arrows to destroy CT.

just because its a large arrow does not mean it can replicate bee/itachi/naruto's result vs chibaku tensei, first of all, thats assuming he uses susanoo and is able to analyse the situation like itachi did and not go wtf (which I have strong doubts he can't) and as soon as it has mass around the orb the arrows are going to struggle (if the size is relative to like what the kyuubi was facing being dragged upwards) hes got no hope.
 

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Itachi and Sasuke's Susnao'o have no differences at all in terms of physical power and durability, only thing that sets these two apart is the weapons.V1 susano'o broke through a wall Sasuke also did the same . All Susano'o users can use Yasaka Magatama and Susano'o sword.But when it comes to PS which is exclusive to EMS users and there's only 2 EMS users in the series, they seem to have different abilities just cause of the user.Susano'o physical strength differs from versions not the users.


And because of this fact people will try their hardest to disprove the fact that Sasuke doesn't have PS despite being obvious as fuc1<.
saving this Quote . good job Tim jamison
 

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this is prove you are a hater .

madara shows PS around Kyuubi and everyone goes HE HAS PS! balblalb

sasuke does it and everyone loses there mind

they both have Tengu nose
sasuke wields the sabrè sword and madara Kris sword

both heavey armor.

haters gonne hate

dude you are a ****ing dumbass, Maddy showed his PS way before he strapped it on kyuubi.

All I'm saying is Maddy's susanoo was shown to be on a completely different level from anyone elses, so we shouldn't just assume sasuke is already on his level when he hasn't shown this.
 

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this is prove you are a hater .

madara shows PS around Kyuubi and everyone goes HE HAS PS! balblalb

sasuke does it and everyone loses there mind

they both have Tengu nose
sasuke wields the sabrè sword and madara Kris sword

both heavey armor.

haters gonne hate

i acutally agree.
 

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Well Sasuke isn't a dumbass that's for sure. Just look at his battle with Danzo. I'm pretty sure Nagato also has a cool down time for Shinra Tensei and if Amaterasu doesn't hit Nagato the first time then it will the second time. But I do believe Sasuke will figure out how Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei works.

nagato doesn't have the cooldown time because it's his body, remember him using multiple paths at once vs naruto/bee?. and I don't see sasuke figuring out CT like itachi did and he still doesn't have the power to wreck it
 

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just because its a large arrow does not mean it can replicate bee/itachi/naruto's result vs chibaku tensei, first of all, thats assuming he uses susanoo and is able to analyse the situation like itachi did and not go wtf (which I have strong doubts he can't) and as soon as it has mass around the orb the arrows are going to struggle (if the size is relative to like what the kyuubi was facing being dragged upwards) hes got no hope.

Completely different type of attacks. The attacks Bee, Naruto and Itachi used are basically explosion based attacks or should I say attacks based on blunt force. Sasuke's Enton Blade or Arrow are piercing / slashing based attacks which cannot be stopped by a solid object such as the rocks surrounding the orb so it slices or pierces through the rocks like a knife through butter and travels to the orb, destroying it.​
 

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dude you are a ****ing dumbass, Maddy showed his PS way before he strapped it on kyuubi.

All I'm saying is Maddy's susanoo was shown to be on a completely different level from anyone elses, so we shouldn't just assume sasuke is already on his level when he hasn't shown this.

didn't read


Sasuke's Susanoo is capable of utilising a blade resembling a sabre in its incomplete form, which is wielded by its primary left arm. Sasuke was able to use it to cut through several stone pillars with ease.[52]

Upon reaching its perfect form, Sasuke's Susanoo blade changes to that of a giant sabre like that of his incomplete form, however, it is made of many chakra scales. Its sharpness and power, when enhanced by senjutsu, can overpower the Sword of Nunoboko.[55]

you see that blind assh00le? senjutsu was only added so obito would get hurt -other wise he would just heal himself again.

never go full retard nigga
 

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I still rate Nagato above Sasuke or even EMS Madara...

1-[Sasuke ain't escaping CT]
\Only way Naruto & co. managed to escape CT was Itachi calmness in such condition...
\Any form of Enton ain't stopping CT, it'd certainly keep on burning but the gravity won't be effected and that'll result in Sasuke's own inciniration because he will be pulled up by then|Kirin can't be prepared in such a hurry...
\Nagato can also push Sasuke into CT as Deva did with 6-tailed form...

2-[Amaterasu is "Rubble under my feet"-Madara|Technically the same statement for any Rinnegan user]
\Nagato'd see the charge up for amaterasu...
\Being a ninjutsu even Enton would be absorbed by Preta path...
\Even if hit, Nagato'd simply absorb or throw it away and we know that amaterasu doesn't turn things into ashes instantly so such burns wouldn't matter...

Nagato has no counter for the slashes of PS.
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Well Sasuke defeating Nagato is indeed a potential considering latest feats.

But i don't think this is an establishment sufficing enough and tiny/fancy font will not make it look better; it infact makes harder to read.
If Sasuke PS feats are on the same scale as Madara's then he beats Nagato med difficulty at most. I only bothered to mention 2 jutsu because those are the most brought up jutsu when it comes to who would win between Nagato and Sasuke.
 

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Itachi and Sasuke's Susnao'o have no differences at all in terms of physical power and durability, only thing that sets these two apart is the weapons.V1 susano'o broke through a wall Sasuke also did the same . All Susano'o users can use Yasaka Magatama and Susano'o sword.But when it comes to PS which is exclusive to EMS users and there's only 2 EMS users in the series, they seem to have different abilities just cause of the user.Susano'o physical strength differs from versions not the users. Thus meaning Sauske can also swing his blade fast enough to create a devastating shock-wave around Madara's level.


And because of this fact people will try their hardest to disprove the fact that Sasuke doesn't have PS despite being obvious as fuc1<.

until he shows his actual PS and it's abilities, any made up feats fans give him is purely fanfic.
 

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until he shows his actual PS and it's abilities, any made up feats fans give him is purely fanfic.

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PS on kyuubi has same Power as a regular w/o dumbass
 

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didn't read


Sasuke's Susanoo is capable of utilising a blade resembling a sabre in its incomplete form, which is wielded by its primary left arm. Sasuke was able to use it to cut through several stone pillars with ease.[52]

Upon reaching its perfect form, Sasuke's Susanoo blade changes to that of a giant sabre like that of his incomplete form, however, it is made of many chakra scales. Its sharpness and power, when enhanced by senjutsu, can overpower the Sword of Nunoboko.[55]

you see that blind assh00le? senjutsu was only added so obito would get hurt -other wise he would just heal himself again.

never go full retard nigga

there is no need for name calling on NB

unless its in a funny situation, how name calling when you disagree or someone disagrees with you is juvenille.
 
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