Temari vs Yamato

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Yamato takes this rather comfortably. Low-med diff.
 

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I'm trying to think of how she could win, but nothing comes to mind at all man.

Yamato mid difficulty
 

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KiriKiri solos tbh, His mokuton is pretty weak since naruto in base was able to punch right through a cage meant to restrain him
 

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med diff at best, not high though.

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Not really considering both have the ability to change the battlefield in their favour. If Yamato decides to come too close, Temari can take him out before he has time to create a large defence or before he can go underground. Not to mention that Tobirama's suiton managed to cut through quite a few branches of the God Tree, far more durable than Yamato's mokuton. Considering Temari is a top 3 fuuton user and fuuton is actually meant to cut unlike suiton, I'm sure she can clear those forests with ease.
 

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Yamato wins low-mid
 

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Not really considering both have the ability to change the battlefield in their favour. If Yamato decides to come too close, Temari can take him out before he has time to create a large defence or before he can go underground. Not to mention that Tobirama's suiton managed to cut through quite a few branches of the God Tree, far more durable than Yamato's mokuton. Considering Temari is a top 3 fuuton user and fuuton is actually meant to cut unlike suiton, I'm sure she can clear those forests with ease.

Like I said it isn't higher, it's med at best. Yamato is a longer range fighter via mukoton so he won't really have any need to come into close contact with her regardless, the power of temari's strength comes from her fan, mukoton can easily restrain her and prevent her using her fan. If yamato decides to come too close he easily reacts via mukoton and away from incoming fuuton. Temari isn't keeping up with yamato's mukoton growth and landscape changing jutsu, she gets restrained rather easily and gets her chakra suppressed. Med diff battle, nothing higher.
 

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Like I said it isn't higher, it's med at best. Yamato is a longer range fighter via mukoton so he won't really have any need to come into close contact with her regardless, the power of temari's strength comes from her fan, mukoton can easily restrain her and prevent her using her fan. If yamato decides to come too close he easily reacts via mukoton and away from incoming fuuton. Temari isn't keeping up with yamato's mukoton growth and landscape changing jutsu, she gets restrained rather easily and gets her chakra suppressed. Med diff battle, nothing higher.
You do realize that if he decides to glide away via mokuton, what if that mokuton gets cut apart and then he falls? Then Temari can finish him off. I wouldn't say she gets restrained that easily since any incoming mokuton could be cut apart before it gets the opportunity to do so. Unless you think that mokuton is too fast to react to or that Temari doesn't have the speed or reaction time to react to it.
 

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You do realize that if he decides to glide away via mokuton, what if that mokuton gets cut apart and then he falls? Then Temari can finish him off. I wouldn't say she gets restrained that easily since any incoming mokuton could be cut apart before it gets the opportunity to do so. Unless you think that mokuton is too fast to react to or that Temari doesn't have the speed or reaction time to react to it.

I won't deny incoming mukoton can be cut but what about incoming mukoton from below her feet? If you think she will react in time then I'm going to need some reaction feats from her that even suggests that she can intercept incoming mukoton from beneath her feet and restrain her near instantly, not too mention she will a mukoton clone on her back which can be used for surprised attack via attack prevention technique. Now you said what if the mukoton gets cut and then he falls? What? All it takes is a clap of the palm of his hands to form more mukoton and continue to glide away and counter with mukoton under her feet, not too mention his clone plays a major factor here as it can rip the earth from under or rise it up from under her leaving her open to a .
 

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I won't deny incoming mukoton can be cut but what about incoming mukoton from below her feet? If you think she will react in time then I'm going to need some reaction feats from her that even suggests that she can intercept incoming mukoton from beneath her feet and restrain her near instantly, not too mention she will a mukoton clone on her back which can be used for surprised attack via attack prevention technique. Now you said what if the mukoton gets cut and then he falls? What? All it takes is a clap of the palm of his hands to form more mukoton and continue to glide away and counter with mukoton under her feet, not too mention his clone plays a major factor here as it can rip the earth from under or rise it up from under her leaving her open to a .
Alright this is going to be long but it is sufficient proof that Temari can react to relatively slow moving mokuton spikes. In this spoiler towards the end, you'll also witness some stamina feats and considering Yamato got worn out after building a neighbourhood of houses, it would be a tough fight for him if the battle did come to a battle of attrition.
Temari's movement speed is lacking, I'll agree but her reaction speed is up there and she does have an nice shunshin feat that I could highlight if you are wondering. Temari is actually physically very strong because she carries a large metal fan and can casually swing such a heavy and bulky weapon. During the chunin exams, after her fight with Shikamaru, she ran away from Sasuke with Gaara, his sand gourd and her own fan on her( ). So after coming from a fight and losing some chakra, she was running full speed with so much weight on her shoulders. Bare in mind this is only chunin exams Temari and the current older version of Temari is even more physically stronger.

Temari doesn't need fast handseals since swinging a fan is much faster than casting seals so her jutsu execution speed is already much faster than most hand seal jutsu users.

As for Temari's speed, well during Naruto's fight with the 3rd Raikage, she managed to visually keep up with KM Naruto and v1 3rd Raikage ( ) and actually analysed what was going on which goes to show that her mind was also able to keep up with what was going on with those two. Temari was able to notice that the guy in the cloak was Naruto despite the fact that she doesn't know how Naruto in his new cloak looks like and the fact that Naruto was running at high speeds ( ). Even the Sandaime Raikage was showing signs of not being able to see Naruto properly in that same panel at the right. Temari managed to realize what Naruto was up to so she was able to once again see what was going on and process all that information in her brain at a pretty high speed ( ).

Temari also has a nice shunshin which goes unnoticed. She arrived alongside Shikamaru and Chouji ( ) and just one page later, the Juubi attacked the alliance with a shockwave from its tail. By the time the Juubi swung its tail ( ), Temari had already shunshined her way all the way to the cliff at the back, far away from Shikamaru and Chouji and managed to swing her fan to counter this attack ( ). The reason why the distance was so great is because there were thousands of people behind Shikamaru and Chouji. The cliff was up high which was why it may seem close but in reality, it was a large distance.

As for chakra reserves, well like I said, during the chunin exams, she had enough stamina to run while carrying so much load on her back all after her fight with Shikamaru. This form of Temari has lower chakra reserves than SRA Temari let alone current Temari. BTW SRA Temari managed to , while using a , without feeling . In part 2, it was hinted that even while low on chakra, Temari still had enough chakra to utilize KiriKirimae multiple times in a short interval ( ).
An additional point to note is that Temari can and then destroy the incoming mokuton. Nothing suggests that you can't use jutsu in midair considering, IIRC, a katon has been used in midair. Sure once she swings her fan, she'll start to drop but the wind force to the ground will slow her down. Moreover, considering she shoots out gusts of wind out of her fan, while in midair, it can propel her elsewhere kind of like rocket fuel creates a surge of gas causing the rocket to get launched into outer space. This could give her a way of travelling closer to Yamato and then potentially finish him off without getting too close to the mokuton on the ground.

I would also like you to note that Temari can jump fairly high as she had to do so from to to get up on top of the cliff.

Anyway Temari can control how the wind currents come from her fan and they aren't easy to predict due to the fact that she can shape them however she wants them to be depending on the scenario. To back this up with proof, notice how different two similar wind scythe jutsus are used. One is used as a covering a near 180 degree direction in front of the user, mainly to defend herself against Tayuya's genjutsu in that situation. was used in a more concentrated fashion against Sasuke's susanoo since breaking through tough defences requires a concentrated force as opposed to a spread out attack. The names are slightly different but one is considered to be a stronger variant of the other. In this situation, I am suggesting that Temari can counter being surrounded from all three sides similar to how she used to destroy everything around her.

If she gets surrounded by mokuton, I don't see why she can't use a 360 degree wind attack, similar to KKM but on a smaller and quicker scale.

Also you say that mokuton below her feat will be too much for her to handle but when you think about it, mokuton does create a sound, so being underneath her means she will be able to hear it instantly and react to it.
 

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med diff at best, not high though.

may I have a scan?

I seriously cant find it but i know im not talking crap. Ill just give you an alternate way he looses


She could use Kiri Kiri to destroy Yamatos Mokuton and since She is now at best jounin level the strength has now increased

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Or she could use casting net which is MOST PROBABLY able to cut through the Wood. Yes it took 2 fodder to add to the power but alone i think its capable to at least take out his mokuton. Its a fact his version of Mokuton is much weaker.
 

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@Icelerate

relatively slow moving mokuton spikes
Are you referring to the mukoton spikes that yamato used against kakuzu? Just want to clarify that.

Temari's movement speed is lacking, I'll agree but her reaction speed is up there and she does have an nice shunshin feat that I could highlight if you are wondering. Temari is actually physically very strong because she carries a large metal fan and can casually swing such a heavy and bulky weapon. During the chunin exams, after her fight with Shikamaru, she ran away from Sasuke with Gaara, his sand gourd and her own fan on her( ). So after coming from a fight and losing some chakra, she was running full speed with so much weight on her shoulders. Bare in mind this is only chunin exams Temari and the current older version of Temari is even more physically stronger

I don't have much to comment on here considering I agree regarding her physical strength and with the rest of your information your presented, but you did mention the bold ''Temari's movement speed is lacking', but you reinforced that statement with the fact that she has good reaction timing. The fact that when temari uses her fuuton she has shown to be stationary which puts her at a large disadvantage against such a versatile opponent such a yamato, there have been many instances in the manga where a shinobi has been able to react to a attack but there body could not move due to the speed of the attack, take sm naruto this current chapter, he was capable of putting up his arm's against madaras speed blitz but still took the attack head.

I won't deny temari may be able notice the mukoton growth but she is not escaping it's restraint especially when yamato can use a wood clone as a distraction or better yet use the wood clone as a method to capture her while temari is taking the real yamato head on and she will her self open to a series of mukoton brances coming towards or under her.

Anyway's here's a panel of yamato's mukoton branches.
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Here's yamato manipulating the pre existing mukoton[ ]

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Those 2 scans above show the speed growth rate of his mukoton restrain methods, temari isn't evading this and other attacks especially from his mukoton clone which can take away her fan.

Temari doesn't need fast handseals since swinging a fan is much faster than casting seals so her jutsu execution speed is already much faster than most hand seal jutsu users.

ok? Her can be easily taken via mukoton.

As for Temari's speed, well during Naruto's fight with the 3rd Raikage, she managed to visually keep up with KM Naruto and v1 3rd Raikage ( ) and actually analysed what was going on which goes to show that her mind was also able to keep up with what was going on with those two. Temari was able to notice that the guy in the cloak was Naruto despite the fact that she doesn't know how Naruto in his new cloak looks like and the fact that Naruto was running at high speeds ( ). Even the Sandaime Raikage was showing signs of not being able to see Naruto properly in that same panel at the right. Temari managed to realize what Naruto was up to so she was able to once again see what was going on and process all that information in her brain at a pretty high speed ( ).

... What?

Everything you just listed sounds petty and looks like your grasping at straws. None of that shows me or convinces me that temari will be evading yamato's mukoton. You said she managed to visually keep up with what the raikage and naruto were doing? You make it sound as though they were moving at lightning speed, I mean do you not see the SA alliance ninja behind her witnessing the same thing?

Temari was able to notice that the guy in the cloak was Naruto despite the fact that she doesn't know how Naruto in his new cloak looks like and the fact that Naruto was running at high speeds

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Never wasn't running at high speeds, do you not see him in the sky which painfully make it obviously and clear to see him? Pages before that this is when kcm naruto clone first shows up to assist them against the raikage[ ].

Naruto was never running at high speeds, in that same scans I posted all he did was jump. It was painfully obvious that, that was naruto. Your honestly over exaggerating to the extreme what temari did.. process what naruto was up to at high speed? Seriously?

Even the Sandaime Raikage was showing signs of not being able to see Naruto properly in that same panel at the right

Maybe because he was focused the frs coming from behind him? Seriously? Regarding the section of your post about temari's shunshin Ill give you that. Also regarding your stamina/chakra I shall agree with you but it's not as though yamato's chakra/stamina is below average, also to my understanding temari came to aid shikamaru fresh on chakra reserves and fresh stamina and I see no reason why she would feel exhausted just because of using her animal summon, sounds rather ridiculous.

An additional point to note is that Temari can m and then destroy the incoming mokuton. Nothing suggests that you can't use jutsu in midair considering, IIRC, a katon has been used in midair. Sure once she swings her fan, she'll start to drop but the wind force to the ground will slow her down. Moreover, considering she shoots out gusts of wind out of her fan, while in midair, it can propel her elsewhere kind of like rocket fuel creates a surge of gas causing the rocket to get launched into outer space. This could give her a way of travelling closer to Yamato and then potentially finish him off without getting too close to the mokuton on the ground.

The scan before that temari had to to pull that hovering feat off. So she's going to swing her fan and mind you temari has only shown to hover in the air when she's standing or on a high surface unless im mistaken, she will be on the surface against yamato so she will need to jump and then unleash a gush of wind during that period of time yamato can easily restrain her as she's starting to jump. You say as she is hovering in the air she will counter incoming mukoton by using her fan and she will begin to drop? I am ok with that considering I can see that happening but what I don't agree with is when you said she will being to propel herself close to yamato and finish him off without getting too close to mukoton? What about his mukoton close that your not taking into factor that can easily attack her from behind? Anyway's if she begins to travel closer yamato can react with using attack prevention technique and evade the incoming fuuton or what using his doton to lessen the damage to evade the fuuton.

I would also like you to note that Temari can jump fairly high as she had to do so from to to get up on top of the cliff.

Somewhat confused here. You said she used shunshin to pull that feat off, now your saying she jumped real high?'

If she gets surrounded by mokuton, I don't see why she can't use a 360 degree wind attack, similar to KKM but on a smaller and quicker scale.

So she will be able to perform the said jutsu via swining her fan first because she get's restrained and her cannot move meaning she cannot operate her fan? Honestly why can you not comprehend mukoton will restrain her limbs? Do not see kabuto and the next page mukoton spawns on his arm and leg ? What's stopping yamato was restricting temari's movements and taking her fan away? Please tell me. The fact that his clones have shown to be able to merge into the earth, temari has no way of reacting to his mukoton clone and getting her limbs restrained.

Also you say that mokuton below her feat will be too much for her to handle but when you think about it, mokuton does create a sound, so being underneath her means she will be able to hear it instantly and react to it.

That's why kabuto instantly reacted?
Or that's why tobi instantly reacted?

Her reacting to the sound doesn't mean much considering the mukoton can continue to grow in length so regardless of her moving away from below the mukoton will continue to go after her and restrain her before she can even finish moving he fan for a counter a attack. I mean temari did have trouble reacting to shikamaru's shadow possession.

Anyway Temari can control how the wind currents come from her fan and they aren't easy to predict due to the fact that she can shape them however she wants them to be depending on the scenario. To back this up with proof, notice how different two similar wind scythe jutsus are used. One is used as a gust of wind covering a near 180 degree direction in front of the user, mainly to defend herself against Tayuya's genjutsu in that situation. Another was used in a more concentrated fashion against Sasuke's susanoo since breaking through tough defences requires a concentrated force as opposed to a spread out attack. The names are slightly different but one is considered to be a stronger variant of the other. In this situation, I am suggesting that Temari can counter being surrounded from all three sides similar to how she used KKM to destroy everything around her.

I will not respond to this because I feel I pretty stated my thoughts on this to your other posts. But regarding your 360 degree counter attack wouldnt's that require her to move her whole body? Mukoton can easily step in and intervene with that process of attacking from temari.
 

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Why are you guys debating the difficulty? If you both think Yamato wins, that's it, don't waste your time lol.

Anyways Yamato wins this high diff, I don't say mid diff because Yamato is going to have to use a lot of chakra to eventually overwhelm Temari with his Mokuton.
 

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Yamato would win, mokuton is above wind, also his suiton and doton would crush her.
 
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