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Lately, people have been claiming everything to be PNJ or illogical writing. I am here to discuss that. Now, it is true that I can't explain the eyeless susanoo and Tsunade surviving what Madara did to her. However, I have found nothing else to be illogical. I will now address how many "illogical" issues have actually been logical and not PNJ. I will only stick to stuff in the recent war time (because debate will last forever if I discuss everything from the beginning of the series to now).
1. People say that Madara surviving the bijuus' assault was a plot shield and illogical. How so? Madara has Senju DNA which has long been established as basically the miracle cure of the NV. Furthermore, he has Hashirama's sage mode and sage mode is said to make the user very durable. He also has Hashirama's regeneration abilities. Now Madara had already stated many chapters ago that he planned to take Hashirama's sage mode. Therefore this mode (and the durability and regeneration that comes with it) is not something that Kishi just thought up on the spot just for the sake of plot. It was actually planned in adavance by Kishi (and by Madara in universe). Therefore it is not PNJ and it is not illogical. It is just a villain being successful with his plan.
2. Madara being able to absorb chakara without eyes is not PNJ or a sudden power up. It makes sense because there have been plenty of non dojutsu wielding shinobi in the series that have been able to absorb chakara. Remember Orochimaru and Yoroi (the guy who fought Sasuke in the churning exams preliminaries). Plus, Madara stated that an underling of an acquaintance taught him how to absorb energy, so Madara already had that ability to begin with.
3. Madara's revival was not illogical and not just PNJ. Once again, this was Madara's plan all along. Madara even stated this! He tried it once before on Obito. It makes perfect sense that it would work once Obito was weakened.
4. Big one: Obito's defeat was not illogical and it was not PNJ in the slightest! Obito was not defeated by words! He was defeated by a senjutsu susanoo Kurama sword slash followed by having multiple beasts ripped out of his body! That is a pure battle technique. The TNJ only came after Obito got slashed. How was this illogical or PNJ? Naruto had already planned to seperate the bijuus back out any way. This was planned well in advance by Naruto and Kurama! Obito becoming the jinchuuriki was just a slight set back to this plan. Therefore this was not illogical and it was not PNJ. It was just a successful plan executed by Naruto and Kurama! If you think it is illogical because the alliance should be dead and that Obito did not use his full power, think again. The fact that Obito did not use rinnegan was purely due to Obito's stupidity! Obito didn't even really use the rinnegan besides outer path even when he had the mask on! Therefore, Obito's stupid choice to not use the rinnegan was established long before he became the 10 tails jinchuuriki. The same goes for wood style. Plus, Obito has always been a spammer. As soon as he awakened MS, after killing those Kiri ninjas, all he ever typically used was Kamui! Did he use wood style or fire style against Minato? No! Did he use it against Konan? No! Did he even eject shuriken? No! Would these things have helped? Yes! But did he use them? No! Why not? Because Obito is a stupid spammer that doesn't grasp the concept that your enemies will eventually figure out your weakness if you keep spamming the same jutsu over and over again! Having said that, is it really a surprise to you that Obito simply started spamming the black technique since he couldn't use Kamui as the jinchuuriki? This was stupidity that Obito demonstrated from the start! PNJ can't be blamed for a villain's stupidity! Therefore Obito's defeat was not illogical writing on Kishi's part. It was just stupidity on Obito's part (which technically shows that Kishi was being true to Obito's character).
5. The Kyuubi chakara cloaks that the alliance got was not PNJ. These cloaks were actually what Shikaku planned for in his final moments. They were planned out. Anything that is planned out is not illogical or PNJ. It was just a successful plan to keep the alliance alive! They were not made up on the fly all of a sudden. Saying that the cloaks were PNJ or illogical is like saying that a police officer wearing a bullet proof vest is illogical! It is a planned out safety measure to keep the officer alive. The same goes for the alliance and the cloaks.
6. Naruto surviving having his chakara absorbed by the shinju and being able to fight is not PNJ. Hiruzen and Tobirama cut the roots and saved Naruto before the shinju was able to absorb all of Naruto's chakara. You can call this luck on Naruto's part, but luck is not illogical. It is just luck.
There are many other instances that are not actually PNJ or illogical that you guys complain about, but I am tired of ranting.
Morals of the story: Anything that is actually planned out in advance and carried out is not illogical and it is not PNJ.
Just because a hero does not die, does not mean that it is PNJ.
Obito was simply stupid.
Luck is not illogical unless it is something like a random bird somehow dropping a boulder on the villain out of nowhere.
PNJ is when something is not actually planned out in universe and the writer just makes up something that wasn't established to be possible on the spot. All of the stuff that I listed was planned out!
The end. Discuss.
1. People say that Madara surviving the bijuus' assault was a plot shield and illogical. How so? Madara has Senju DNA which has long been established as basically the miracle cure of the NV. Furthermore, he has Hashirama's sage mode and sage mode is said to make the user very durable. He also has Hashirama's regeneration abilities. Now Madara had already stated many chapters ago that he planned to take Hashirama's sage mode. Therefore this mode (and the durability and regeneration that comes with it) is not something that Kishi just thought up on the spot just for the sake of plot. It was actually planned in adavance by Kishi (and by Madara in universe). Therefore it is not PNJ and it is not illogical. It is just a villain being successful with his plan.
2. Madara being able to absorb chakara without eyes is not PNJ or a sudden power up. It makes sense because there have been plenty of non dojutsu wielding shinobi in the series that have been able to absorb chakara. Remember Orochimaru and Yoroi (the guy who fought Sasuke in the churning exams preliminaries). Plus, Madara stated that an underling of an acquaintance taught him how to absorb energy, so Madara already had that ability to begin with.
3. Madara's revival was not illogical and not just PNJ. Once again, this was Madara's plan all along. Madara even stated this! He tried it once before on Obito. It makes perfect sense that it would work once Obito was weakened.
4. Big one: Obito's defeat was not illogical and it was not PNJ in the slightest! Obito was not defeated by words! He was defeated by a senjutsu susanoo Kurama sword slash followed by having multiple beasts ripped out of his body! That is a pure battle technique. The TNJ only came after Obito got slashed. How was this illogical or PNJ? Naruto had already planned to seperate the bijuus back out any way. This was planned well in advance by Naruto and Kurama! Obito becoming the jinchuuriki was just a slight set back to this plan. Therefore this was not illogical and it was not PNJ. It was just a successful plan executed by Naruto and Kurama! If you think it is illogical because the alliance should be dead and that Obito did not use his full power, think again. The fact that Obito did not use rinnegan was purely due to Obito's stupidity! Obito didn't even really use the rinnegan besides outer path even when he had the mask on! Therefore, Obito's stupid choice to not use the rinnegan was established long before he became the 10 tails jinchuuriki. The same goes for wood style. Plus, Obito has always been a spammer. As soon as he awakened MS, after killing those Kiri ninjas, all he ever typically used was Kamui! Did he use wood style or fire style against Minato? No! Did he use it against Konan? No! Did he even eject shuriken? No! Would these things have helped? Yes! But did he use them? No! Why not? Because Obito is a stupid spammer that doesn't grasp the concept that your enemies will eventually figure out your weakness if you keep spamming the same jutsu over and over again! Having said that, is it really a surprise to you that Obito simply started spamming the black technique since he couldn't use Kamui as the jinchuuriki? This was stupidity that Obito demonstrated from the start! PNJ can't be blamed for a villain's stupidity! Therefore Obito's defeat was not illogical writing on Kishi's part. It was just stupidity on Obito's part (which technically shows that Kishi was being true to Obito's character).
5. The Kyuubi chakara cloaks that the alliance got was not PNJ. These cloaks were actually what Shikaku planned for in his final moments. They were planned out. Anything that is planned out is not illogical or PNJ. It was just a successful plan to keep the alliance alive! They were not made up on the fly all of a sudden. Saying that the cloaks were PNJ or illogical is like saying that a police officer wearing a bullet proof vest is illogical! It is a planned out safety measure to keep the officer alive. The same goes for the alliance and the cloaks.
6. Naruto surviving having his chakara absorbed by the shinju and being able to fight is not PNJ. Hiruzen and Tobirama cut the roots and saved Naruto before the shinju was able to absorb all of Naruto's chakara. You can call this luck on Naruto's part, but luck is not illogical. It is just luck.
There are many other instances that are not actually PNJ or illogical that you guys complain about, but I am tired of ranting.
Morals of the story: Anything that is actually planned out in advance and carried out is not illogical and it is not PNJ.
Just because a hero does not die, does not mean that it is PNJ.
Obito was simply stupid.
Luck is not illogical unless it is something like a random bird somehow dropping a boulder on the villain out of nowhere.
PNJ is when something is not actually planned out in universe and the writer just makes up something that wasn't established to be possible on the spot. All of the stuff that I listed was planned out!
The end. Discuss.
