Base Hashirama VS PS Sasuke + CS2 Juugo Combo

[Icelerate]

Restrictions: Hashirama can't use sage mode or any jutsu that he can only use when he is in sage mode.
Location: Valley of the End
Knowledge: Full
Starting Distance: 100 m

 

[TheSages456]

is sasukes susano is scaled to madaras level, then hashirama can stalemate it with the mokujin. sasukes susano as seen currently, only parallels 50% kyuubi in size and power, merely judging by its size when it forms around the kyuubi.

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sasukes susano has no feats to suggest that it can even scratch the mokujin which took multiple slashes from madaras perfect susano.

mokujin destroys sasukes susano, then destroys sasuke.

 

[itachiuchiha21]

is sasukes susano is scaled to madaras level, then hashirama can stalemate it with the mokujin. sasukes susano as seen currently, only parallels 50% kyuubi in size and power, merely judging by its size when it forms around the kyuubi.

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sasukes susano has no feats to suggest that it can even scratch the mokujin which took multiple slashes from madaras perfect susano.

mokujin destroys sasukes susano, then destroys sasuke.

mokujin cant breach susanoo

enton sword light up mokujin on fire

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madara's forest was burning up with regular katon, enton destroys mokuton even more easily

 

[Champ]

Sasuke. Only Shinsuusenju can deactivate Susano'o

 

[Icelerate]

is sasukes susano is scaled to madaras level, then hashirama can stalemate it with the mokujin. sasukes susano as seen currently, only parallels 50% kyuubi in size and power, merely judging by its size when it forms around the kyuubi.

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sasukes susano has no feats to suggest that it can even scratch the mokujin which took multiple slashes from madaras perfect susano.

mokujin destroys sasukes susano, then destroys sasuke.

Just curious, how powerful do you think Sasuke's standalone PS is without Juugo? I say at least as half as strong as Madara's. With the enhancement of CS2, I'm not too sure how much its strength is increased but it might be as strong as Madara's at most.

Anyway as for mokujin, wouldn't it get weakened by amaterasu, enton and then Kirin. I'm not saying amaterasu and Kirin are on the same level as Mokujin but they do have an elemental advantage against the giant structure and eventually the fire will spread due to Sasuke's ability to control black flames and because wood combusts easily creating more fire.

Once the mokujin has been weakened, I believe Sasuke can finish it off with sword slashes from the CS enhanced PS sword. Also bare in mind those sword slashes will create gusts of wind, further enhancing the enton already on Mokujin. All of this will release a lot of water vapour since wood has a lot of water and then Sasuke can use Kirin once more.

You say that mokujin can destroy Sasuke's susanoo but what are its best destructive feats?

 

[Invsblphntm]

Sasuke takes this medium difficulty.

Sasuke's Susano'o is around the same size as Madara's Susano'o [it had to scale down to fit Naruto's Kyubi avatar] and is also stabilized like the latter.

With Enton covering his Susano'o [one can logically assume this is possible] and a pseudo-Sennin Modo [boosting his Susano'o chakra, size, and strength] he could defeat anything Hashirama can throw at him.

 

[adeshina365]

Assuming that Sasuke's PS is on-par with Madara's (we really shouldn't assume this for the time being), then team 2 wins.

A Perfect Susanoo on-par with Madara's + Senjutsu curse mark power + Enton should do the trick.

 

[Rike Senju]

Hashi wins. People need not forget that sasuke's susanno was powered up by kurama's chakra cloak.

 

[The Sach]

Team 2, the only attacks that Hashi has in his arsenal are wood techs and I don't think Sasuke with PS should have any problem in countering wood techs.:yeah:

 

[adeshina365]

Hashi wins. People need not forget that sasuke's susanno was powered up by kurama's chakra cloak.

When Sasuke coated his Perfect Susanoo on Naruto's Kurama avatar, he didn't have the cloak.

 

[Penguin]

It all depends on dat Susano'o.

Just curious, how powerful do you think Sasuke's standalone PS is without Juugo? I say at least as half as strong as Madara's. With the enhancement of CS2, I'm not too sure how much its strength is increased but it might be as strong as Madara's at most.

Anyway as for mokujin, wouldn't it get weakened by amaterasu, enton and then Kirin. I'm not saying amaterasu and Kirin are on the same level as Mokujin but they do have an elemental advantage against the giant structure and eventually the fire will spread due to Sasuke's ability to control black flames and because wood combusts easily creating more fire.

Once the mokujin has been weakened, I believe Sasuke can finish it off with sword slashes from the CS enhanced PS sword. Also bare in mind those sword slashes will create gusts of wind, further enhancing the enton already on Mokujin. All of this will release a lot of water vapour since wood has a lot of water and then Sasuke can use Kirin once more.

You say that mokujin can destroy Sasuke's susanoo but what are its best destructive feats?

Bro, Amaterasu doesn't have an elemental advantage over wood. Wood is made of water and earth, and water > fire. Wood > Fire.

But Lightning > Wood.

 

[Murasame]

It all depends on dat Susano'o.



Bro, Amaterasu doesn't have an elemental advantage over wood. Wood is made of water and earth, and water > fire. Wood > Fire.

But Lightning > Wood.

Water is only > Fire when fire has about the same output of power or lower. Amaterasu has been in contact with water without getting put out. I don't think any of the current water techs can put it out.

 

[Penguin]

Water is only > Fire when fire has about the same output of power or lower. Amaterasu has been in contact with water without getting put out. I don't think any of the current water techs can put it out.

I don't get what you mean.

A lot of water > Fire
Water > Fire
Little water = Fire
Little water < A lot of fire

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke takes this medium difficulty.

Sasuke's Susano'o is around the same size as Madara's Susano'o [it had to scale down to fit Naruto's Kyubi avatar] and is also stabilized like the latter.

With Enton covering his Susano'o [one can logically assume this is possible] and a pseudo-Sennin Modo [boosting his Susano'o chakra, size, and strength] he could defeat anything Hashirama can throw at him.

This right here, Sasuke with Jugo's help is EMS Madara+ due to the Senjutsu boost, he should handily defeat Base Hashirama considering his best move was stalemated by a PS, a stronger one that can also use Enton ends it.

 

[Bronze]

TheSages456 never gets his face out of Hashirama's assLol. Disgusting fanboy.

OT: Sasuke can solo this himself. The PS he manifested is around Naruto's Bijuu mode, and based on my calculations, its 14 times smaller than Madara's PS. However, size is not everything as Sasuke's PS can be amplified with Enton increasing its cutting capabilities to the point where it can potentially burn an area comparable to the size of FTW.

While on his PS, he can throw Magatama through Enton [

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], and by the size of PS hands, the scale of them would overwhelm most of Hashirama's techniques. He can also cover his PS by using Enton armour [

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] which make it impossible for any of Hashirama's techniques including Mokujin to penetrate PS, thus burning what ever it comes in contact with.

With Juugo's curse mark, Sasuke's PS will be overpowered by 1/3 than its natural strength. Sasuke mid difficulty.

 

[Optimistic]

I don't get what you mean.

A lot of water > Fire
Water > Fire
Little water = Fire
Little water < A lot of fire

Amaterasu > water

 

[miromiro]

Team 2 wins.

 

[TheSages456]

Just curious, how powerful do you think Sasuke's standalone PS is without Juugo? I say at least as half as strong as Madara's. With the enhancement of CS2, I'm not too sure how much its strength is increased but it might be as strong as Madara's at most.

there is no visible power difference between sasukes susano with jugo and sasukes susano without jugo. if you were going to try to prove that there is a power difference between them, you wouldnt be able to do it by feats.

Anyway as for mokujin, wouldn't it get weakened by amaterasu, enton and then Kirin. I'm not saying amaterasu and Kirin are on the same level as Mokujin but they do have an elemental advantage against the giant structure and eventually the fire will spread due to Sasuke's ability to control black flames and because wood combusts easily creating more fire.

the mokujin straight up tanked multiple mountain busting sword strikes from madaras perfect susano. there is a point where when the battle becomes too high scaled, some techniques become non factors.
sasuke couldnt spread the flames more on the V2 juubi, which the mokujin is around in size based on this scan:

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PS and the mokujin dwarf the seals that held down the juubi(the seals were big enough to fit around the juubis body to hold it down)
the juubi would only be bigger than either if its tails were accounted for.

even with narutos chou odama rasenshuriken, sasuke only had enough flames to light up a portion of the juubis body(comparable to the bulb on its back)

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Once the mokujin has been weakened, I believe Sasuke can finish it off with sword slashes from the CS enhanced PS sword. Also bare in mind those sword slashes will create gusts of wind, further enhancing the enton already on Mokujin. All of this will release a lot of water vapour since wood has a lot of water and then Sasuke can use Kirin once more.

what feats does sasukes susano have that suggest that it will take down the mokujin? its best feat is cutting juubito, who was damaged from attacks magnitudes weaker than what madaras perfect susano can output.

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the mokujin also has the feat of restraining madaras perfect susano and since sasukes susano has only been shown to wield one sword, the mokujin can stop it from slashing completely:

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You say that mokujin can destroy Sasuke's susanoo but what are its best destructive feats?

hashirama could just outlast him if thats the case.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Hashirama still wins. Wood Golem tied with Madara's PS.

 

[Murasame]

I don't get what you mean.

A lot of water > Fire
Water > Fire
Little water = Fire
Little water < A lot of fire

Yeah thats what I'm kind of saying @your post.. fire only beat winds when the wind tech is on the same level or lower. I'm applying that to water and fire as well. If the fire tech is stronger than the water tech fire wins. Amaterasu is strongest fire technique I believe so water doesn't beat it.