why itachi and sasuke can't defeat hiruzen ?

[KisuneUchiha]

Anyone whl said that sasuke and itachi have chance to defeat hiruzen are nothing but fanboys ..
I provided manga facts in my threads that nobody can deny my points ..

Hiruzen defeated hashirama and Tobirama ..

Can sasuke and itachi defeat them ?

No they can't while hiruzen did it alone at age of 69.

Hashirama and Tobirama both were not anywhere near their full power while they were reanimated...

 

[Leo Howard]

Lol You gave yourself away right here.

Maybe next time.

Really ?! Do you read manga ??! I will provide you page that said he's the strongest.

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[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

If hiruzen was in cave instead of that loser , I mean kabuto then both sasuke and itachi Will definitely lose and they will be sent to their crave ..

i will explain why he can take both sasuke and itachi at same time:



1) hiruzen is strongest hokage (manga fact)
2) hiruzen soloed both hashirama and Tobirama in 1shot (manga fact)
3) hiruzen knows every konoha jutsu including uchiha jutsu that doesn't require eyes like sasunoo and amatarsu.
4) hiruzen knows FTG , he arrived at same time as Tobirama in battlefield.
5) hiruzen age was 69 when he died , his power in databook is 35/40 which mean in his prime his power was 40/40
6) hiruzen have higher experience than itachi and sasuke so he can 1shot them.




Finally itachi himself feared from hiruzen and that's manga fact too ..

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Go to sleep...genjutsu...gg.

 

[xcoyote]

Neutralizer Jutsu destroys their eyes.

Damn staight,what a jutsu.
The editors pushed Kishi to plot nerf it so the manga can last longer. U_U

 

[VongolaX]

I'm practically giving excuses to put Hiruzen at top ten.

Every time he makes a fighting scene, he doesn't last two pages.

Or in part 1, dies in the next chapter.

 

[Leo Howard]

Nobody could counter my thread and I will not bother to debate with someone who doesn't provide any fact from manga because they just fanboying and I don't like fanboys ..

Hiruzen feats should not be denied ..

 

[VongolaX]

Really ?! Do you read manga ??! I will provide you page that said he's the strongest.

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And Itachi was called invincible, while Sasuke is said to surpass him.

How do you beat invincibility?

/Thread

They had to weaken one of the best character with an internal disease, because no one can damage him

Externally.

 

[Joker]

Hiruzen can solo alliance ninja army if he want to ..
tell me why itachi was scared of hiruzen and hiruzen made itachi sets in ground begging him ..

He made itachi look like a puppy .


Hiruzen didn't want to kill orochimaru and he lets orochimaru to win ..

It same as itachi when he let sasuke to win ..

Hiruzen treated orochimaru as his son.

I agree

"Make preperations to be deafeted" Doesn't seem like letting someone win.

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[Leo Howard]

And Itachi was called invincible, while Sasuke is said to surpass him.

How do you beat invincibility?

/Thread

They had to weaken one of the best character with an internal disease, because no one can damage him

Externally.

Sasuke said that itachi is perfect not invincible ..

Secondly , hiruzen proofs that he's strongest since he already soloed hashirama and Tobirama ..

 

[Leo Howard]

"Make preperations to be deafeted" Doesn't seem like letting someone win.

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Hiruzen doesn't want to kill orochimaru , he wanted to stop him from destroying konoha that's why he eliminated orochimaru hands.

Review last scene in their fight and you Will understand that he still love orochimaru and he was treating him like his own son.

 

[VongolaX]

Sasuke said that itachi is perfect not invincible ..

Secondly , hiruzen proofs that he's strongest since he already soloed hashirama and Tobirama ..

Well first off, it was Zetsu who said he was invincible.

Sasuke said he was perfect.

Second, should we refer back to the chapter where Tobimaru said that Orochimaru didn't bring them back at full strength?

They were in half power lol

The fact is that he had to kill himself, in order to beat half power Edo tensei's

 

[Yanks]

Sasuke said that itachi is perfect not invincible ..

Secondly , hiruzen proofs that he's strongest since he already soloed hashirama and Tobirama ..

He didn't solo anyone as he needed help from Enma (and he barely won anyways). The fact that Hashirama wasn't fighting at his full power meant that Hiruzen doesn't stand a chance against him. Also, if minato is so weaker than Hiruzen, why was he so worried that he was being summoned?

 

[itachi4real]

You didnt explain shit in this thread lol. U just said hiruzen was older and how he has experience.

 

[LolChidori]

Who were the 3 dingbats that chose Hiruzen?
Sasuke and Itachi not even paired together can take him alone, mid-diff. Aged and experienced or not, it's not even in Hiruzen's favor. That even sounds almost degradable considering Sasuke is younger than him and well above.

 

[itachi4real]

Well first off, it was Zetsu who said he was invincible.

Sasuke said he was perfect.

Second, should we refer back to the chapter where Tobimaru said that Orochimaru didn't bring them back at full strength?

They were in half power lol

The fact is that he had to kill himself, in order to beat half power Edo tensei's

Half powered? They wasnt even half powered lol

 

[thunderthehybrid]

your thread made me laugh out loud

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Hiruzen lost to Orochimaru and Itachi solo'd Orochimaru in less than a minute on more than one occasion.

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

I spat out my tea, your thread is that hilarious.

 

[NOemotions]

How dare you question The Power Of konoha Savior?
He soloed uchiha, He stopped the coup, He stopped edo tensei, He told hiruzen keep his mouth shut about the mission and so hiruzen did

itachi did NOT solo uchiha or stop anything including their clan massacre. Only thing you were right about was that he did save konoha from idiot who didnt even know who he was.. And Hiruzen spared sasuke.. no idea why.. that lazy rat..

 

[Joker]

Hiruzen lost to Orochimaru and Itachi solo'd Orochimaru in less than a minute on more than one occasion.

ABC logic doesn't count, try again.