You people underestimate sage mode.

Sakuradasoloqueen · Dec 20, 2013

Naruto sm is underrated you are right but 6 paths is even more underrated.If yahiko path had shinra tensei from start it would end 6-0

Raekwon26 · Dec 20, 2013

kazekaine said:
sigh the kazekage never stop trying find a compatible host for shukaku just for the purpose of being a weapon stated by him multiple times, and deem gaara a failure because he couldnt control. pristine bloodline and child of prophecy? where was all of that in part 1? what can the pristine bloodline do to stop whats going on now? tsunade is just has much uzumaki has naruto any benefits he gets from it she gets it aswell plus more due to being a senju as well.
the BM attacks where pretty much useless until naruto add senjutsu power to them.

The Kazekage? WTF does he have to do with Hashirama's goals for the Bijuus? Nothing. I'll say it again, the Bijuus were not originally meant to be used as weapons, they developed into that over time because of the corruption of the Shinobi world. Simple.

Where was that in Part 1? Excuse me, are you serious? So when he got poisoned in Team 7's first mission, why was it that he healed so fast? Magic? When he was fighting Neji, who do he take chakra from? A ghost?
Tsunade is a SENJU and it's funny that you are trying to compare a side character to THE main character, going on like they have the same advantages and devices when they clearly don't.

So, you just ignore the points I made when he didn't use SM?
Ok then, what happened when he combined BM and SM? He used a Rasengan and got sat down when Obito pulled out the Shinju. He was completely ineffective until he teamed up with Sasuke.
But, why didn't he use SM to stop the Bijuu Bombs? Or against the fight against Obito and the Bijuus? Or when Madara first came? Or when the Juubi was released? Or when Sasuke and the Kages showed up? If SM is so damn strong, surely he should have used it by itself without the need to combine it with BM?
That Mode is a joke in Naruto's arsenal.

-Spoiler- · Dec 20, 2013

Raekwon26 said:
The Kazekage? WTF does he have to do with Hashirama's goals for the Bijuus? Nothing. I'll say it again, the Bijuus were not originally meant to be used as weapons, they developed into that over time because of the corruption of the Shinobi world. Simple.

Where was that in Part 1? Excuse me, are you serious? So when he got poisoned in Team 7's first mission, why was it that he healed so fast? Magic? When he was fighting Neji, who do he take chakra from? A ghost?
Tsunade is a SENJU and it's funny that you are trying to compare a side character to THE main character, going on like they have the same advantages and devices when they clearly don't.

So, you just ignore the points I made when he didn't use SM?
Ok then, what happened when he combined BM and SM? He used a Rasengan and got sat down when Obito pulled out the Shinju. He was completely ineffective until he teamed up with Sasuke.
But, why didn't he use SM to stop the Bijuu Bombs? Or against the fight against Obito and the Bijuus? Or when Madara first came? Or when the Juubi was released? Or when Sasuke and the Kages showed up? If SM is so damn strong, surely he should have used it by itself without the need to combine it with BM?
That Mode is a joke in Naruto's arsenal.

tsunade is a senju and a uzumaki, uzumaki heal faster and can survive, the point i was trying to make is that no one never followed what hashirama wanted to begin with only konoha every other villages used the bijuus as weapons,

how the heck was SM alone gonna stop a bijuu bomb?
the point your trying to make is that naruto is the only one using power for another source when in fact watch this week episode obito referred to kakashi as the borrowed power. jins are legit most of you members should just get over it.

slimreaper · Dec 20, 2013

kazekaine said:
what intel dude seriously? did anyone tell him how to beat the third?
@bold umm alot of things?

re read that fight rubber guy is telling him everything(while he saves him).

would naruto have figured anything out if rubber guy didn't describe it as his strongest shield and spear? nope

bold: his clones are weaker but SM naruto still loses if there are no distractions for the third and naruto has no intel

Raekwon26 · Dec 20, 2013

kazekaine said:
tsunade is a senju and a uzumaki, uzumaki heal faster and can survive, the point i was trying to make is that no one never followed what hashirama wanted to begin with only konoha every other villages used the bijuus as weapons,

how the heck was SM alone gonna stop a bijuu bomb?
the point your trying to make is that naruto is the only one using power for another source when in fact watch this week episode obito referred to kakashi as the borrowed power. jins are legit most of you members should just get over it.

What do you mean no one?
Did we not just get a chapter of the FIRST Kage summit or what?
The healing was solely down to Kurama's chakra in him and that has been proving that Kurama is the reason for Naruto's quick healing.

That's not my point at all. Again, you are clearly making so sense at all. How about you actually re-read my posts and quote where I said what you are insinuation?
The fact is, SM is NOT underrated and KCM and BM are borrowed powers. I don't care about the other Jins or whoever, the thread is about Naruto.

The real reason why you guys get so upset when people say Naruto uses borrowed power is because you view it as a weakness, that's why you guys are quick to say, 'What about that character?, or him? etc.'

-Spoiler- · Dec 20, 2013

slimreaper said:
re read that fight rubber guy is telling him everything(while he saves him).

would naruto have figured anything out if rubber guy didn't describe it as his strongest shield and spear? nope

bold: his clones are weaker but SM naruto still loses if there are no distractions for the third and naruto has no intel

rubber guy intel didnt help stop raikage naruto used the scar and the story hachibi told he to stop third raikage.

slimreaper · Dec 20, 2013

kazekaine said:
rubber guy intel didnt help stop raikage naruto used the scar and the story hachibi told he to stop third raikage.

rubber guy physically kept naruto alive. naruto would have just tried hitting the scar if the rubber didn't tell him his defense was impenetrable. would naruto have known the raikage stabbed himself if the rubber guy didn't tell naruto what his strongest spear was? clearly rubber guy provided intel without which naruto's clone would be long dead trying to figure out

Mellanoma · Dec 20, 2013

xxSAGExx said:
Well if you read the chapters before that then you know Naruto was talking about Sasuke's "Current level" as in EMS. He read Sasuke's mind and saw what Sasuke planned to do, when Sasuke was in front of him he said he'll take him on anytime. When Naruto said "his current level", Sasuke already was getting Itachi's eyes.

Agreed. It's prefect for Naruto since it increases Naruto's base stats by a huge margin (the physical strength he displays). Naruto can use at least 200 clones to train with to increase his power faster than anyone else like he did while learning Wind Rasengan. 200 clones training 1 day equals 200 days worth of training.

LOL no he was not lol.. He was referring to MS sasuke as in Kage Summit Sasuke

Ovan · Dec 20, 2013

o.o Ummm... I don't look down on it one bit.

Draphsin · Dec 20, 2013

SM puts naruto somewhere in the top 20.

SM is properly rated, this thread is overrating it.

AlastorNazura17 · Dec 20, 2013

the eagle said:
They have a point though,Naruto relies on Kurama for everything which makes his fightning style too contricted,however Uchiha aren't borrowing powers since it's part of their blood.

So, taking out /SOMEONE ELSES/ eyes and putting them in your own head is natural, and isn't stealing/borrowing? Yeah, such a double standard. They aren't their natural eyes, hence not their power. They're borrowing/ stealing power.

Naruto didn't ask for Kurama, but it was forced onto him. He used the power, because he has it there.

You have to kill someone to get EMS, and then implant it in your own eye sockets. :|

Retsu · Dec 20, 2013

AlastorNazura17 said:
So, taking out /SOMEONE ELSES/ eyes and putting them in your own head is natural, and isn't stealing/borrowing? Yeah, such a double standard. They aren't their natural eyes, hence not their power. They're borrowing/ stealing power.

Naruto didn't ask for Kurama, but it was forced onto him. He used the power, because he has it there.

You have to kill someone to get EMS, and then implant it in your own eye sockets. :|

Not all, but some Uchiha fans are hypocrites, no one is trying to hear anything they say about borrowed power since sasuke says it best himself.