summing up the difference between Tsunade and her teammates in 8 points

[Bantos]

And despite all that she is the weakest of the sannin...Her student hasn't surpassed her only means that she is a hopeless teacher compared to jiraiya and orochimaru...neither her student nor her are in the same level as j-man's or oro's students....

Where the hell did you get the weakest sannin thing? : D It doesn't make any sense.

Also, Sakura was the most pathetic one of team 7 in part 1, and had to work most on during the three years. Still Sakura improved WAY more than Naruto during those three years, Naruto not learning basicly anything.

 

[-PK-]

1 Tsunade is from the strongest clan.. Oro and Jman are from irrelevant clans that weren't even mentioned

She is from the strongest clan yet is not that special in battles.

2 Tsunade can't die in a battle... the other two (as we've seen in the manga) can be killed

Oh really ? Please tell me how she would survive decapitation, whole body being totally crushed torn apart limb by lim .

3 Tsunade still beats her students.. Oro and Jman are clearly inferior to the likes of Nagato or Kabuto

That proves that Jiraiya and Orochimaru are better teachers which is why their students achieved such a great level yet Sakura and Shizune get shat on by so many characters .

4 Tsunade killed Madara one time... Oro or Jman couldn't have accomplished this feat... we've seen that 11 years old Itachi was above their level no diff

Madara was an Edo and was not even serious and playing around not to mention that it was a clone .

5 Tsunade's students have never turned into pathetic depressed emo final villain wannabees like Nagato Kabuto or Oro himself...

Yet Sakura was depressed when Sasuke left the village and sad when he didn't show up on time for the Chuunin exams. What a strong hearted girl crying over a boy .

6 Tsunade has real senju dna while Oro has just a clone and Jman doesn't even have

Zetsu also has Senju dna but he is still weak .

7 Tsunade's summon is much stronger.. Manda was killed by an explosion and Gamabunta got blown away by the st like he was nothing... however even the 10% of Katsuyu is like almost the most durable thing in the manga

Its defensive ability and durability is great but its still not the strongest.

8 while Oro invented a few jutsus and Jman haven't even invented anything Tsunade invented a whole new genre of ninjutsus (medical ninjutsu)

She just invented the system of having 1 medical ninja in a team . Hashi used medical ninjutsu before her .

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

She is from the strongest clan yet is not that special in battles.

must be reading wrong manga... or just missed the part when Tsunade reloaded all the kages

Oh really ? Please tell me how she would survive decapitation, whole body being totally crushed torn apart limb by lim .

so much fail in your post... byakugou is a cell level regeneration..

That proves that Jiraiya and Orochimaru are better teachers which is why their students achieved such a great level yet Sakura and Shizune get shat on by so many characters .

Tsunade is also a great teacher.. Sakura developed a lot during the timeskip... also Kabuto and Nagato use cheat codes like kkg implant or sharingan

Madara was an Edo and was not even serious and playing around not to mention that it was a clone .

where's your proof the he was already a clones? ohh wait ou don't have one because he never told when did he replace himself... also the one Tsunade destroyed clearly looked like an edo.. not like a clone

Yet Sakura was depressed when Sasuke left the village and sad when he didn't show up on time for the Chuunin exams. What a strong hearted girl crying over a boy .

still a nice character unlike the guy who killed his master and the guy who betrayed his village

Zetsu also has Senju dna but he is still weak .

you don't get the point.. Tsunade has REAL senju dna not just some fake copycat

Its defensive ability and durability is great but its still not the strongest.

you might be right here.. but you've got to admit defense is also very important

She just invented the system of having 1 medical ninja in a team . Hashi used medical ninjutsu before her .

my bad... it still a great developement though

 

[Rike Senju]

Tsunade's students are fodder compared to jman's and oro's students. It would be a shame if she wasn't stronger than them lol

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Tsunade's students are fodder compared to jman's and oro's students. It would be a shame if she wasn't stronger than them lol

I wouldn't go that far.. they're obviously weaker but not "fodder"

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Tsunade is weak and neither of her students have surpassed her nuff said thread soloed.

 

[AGoodBoy]

you forgot 1 thing;

9) j-man and oro trained their pupils into demi gods (naruto/nagato/minato && sasuke/kabuto) tsunade trained fodder (shizune/saukra).

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

I wouldn't go that far.. they're obviously weaker but not "fodder"

Pain fodderized tsunade with one attack her fodder students were also fodderized.

 

[Ovan]

1 Tsunade is from the strongest clan.. Oro and Jman are from irrelevant clans that weren't even mentioned
Strongest clan because Hashirama and Tobirama carried them there? Haven't seen anymore of them afterwards.

2 Tsunade can't die in a battle... the other two (as we've seen in the manga) can be killed
If the Sage can die.. She can die. Don't see her going head to head with Itachi nor Pain so yeah.. Shush.

3 Tsunade still beats her students.. Oro and Jman are clearly inferior to the likes of Nagato or Kabuto
Of course.. Sasuke has EMS/Trained by Orochimaru. Naruto defeats Jman because he has a 9 tails and know how to control it. Come on.. If anything, this one really made her look bad because her teaching methods are lacking compared to the other two sages. The student suppose to surpass the sensei, not be stuck in the same spot till she dies of natural causes.

4 Tsunade killed Madara one time... Oro or Jman couldn't have accomplished this feat... we've seen that 11 years old Itachi was above their level no diff
She never killed Madara. She got a solid hit on the edo.. He was playing around with his new gifts.None of them can accomplish this to tell the truth.

5 Tsunade's students have never turned into pathetic depressed emo final villain wannabees like Nagato Kabuto or Oro himself...
War did that to Nagato. Same for Kabuto aswell. Sasuke was already messed up and wanted to be come stronger due to the false info his brother fed him.

6 Tsunade has real senju dna while Oro has just a clone and Jman doesn't even have
Senju DNA don't make you anymore special then the next ninja. Gotta have Hashirama DNA to be that special. Oro had his reasons for using it and J-Man didn't need it. Only ruins the character if anything.

7 Tsunade's summon is much stronger.. Manda was killed by an explosion and Gamabunta got blown away by the st like he was nothing... however even the 10% of Katsuyu is like almost the most durable thing in the manga
How many fights have we actually seen Tsunade in? Like big fights? We barely see anything from her. She don't get enough screen time to get her stuff wrecked. It can hold it's own but I doubt it's stronger then either of the others summons. She is more for support then anything.

8 while Oro invented a few jutsus and Jman haven't even invented anything Tsunade invented a whole new genre of ninjutsus (medical ninjutsu)
Hashirama and others before him, already had it going. She just made it mainstream for leaf village teams.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Pain fodderized tsunade with one attack her fodder students were also fodderized.

it was because of the rinnegan not because of the skills he gained while training with Jman
your argument is invalid

you forgot 1 thing;

9) j-man and oro trained their pupils into demi gods (naruto/nagato/minato && sasuke/kabuto) tsunade trained fodder (shizune/saukra).

1 they aren't fodder just weaker

2 they didn't have any powerup like the rinnegan or the kyuubi so Tsunade had to train them at least 20 times harder

 

[Joshutsu]

you forgot 1 thing;

9) j-man and oro trained their pupils into demi gods (naruto/nagato/minato && sasuke/kabuto) tsunade trained fodder (shizune/saukra).

To be fair, how can we give J-man any credit for what Naruto is now. He died before naruto even learned SM. He has very little to do with the demi-god naruto at the moment.

Orochimaru should be most proud of his student Sasuke. Naruto was pretty bad previous to SM. When Oro 'died' Sasuke was already pretty good on his own.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

it was because of the rinnegan not because of the skills he gained while training with Jman
your argument is invalid


1 they aren't fodder just weaker

2 they didn't have any powerup like the rinnegan or the kyuubi so Tsunade had to train them at least 20 times harder

Saying tsunade got smacked down because of the rinnegan is a poor excuse. I can take away tsunades regeneration because she got it from her grandfather. See how that works? Tsunade and her students are fodder also nagato mastered all elements under jiraiyas tutelage. Tsunade doesn't even have a decent fighting style.

 

[AGoodBoy]

it was because of the rinnegan not because of the skills he gained while training with Jman
your argument is invalid


1 they aren't fodder just weaker

2 they didn't have any powerup like the rinnegan or the kyuubi so Tsunade had to train them at least 20 times harder

So minato has a rinnegan and kyuubi? Kabuto has a rinnegan and kyuubi? anko? Kimimaro? Konan? They all disappoint tsunade's disciples.

To be fair, how can we give J-man any credit for what Naruto is now. He died before naruto even learned SM. He has very little to do with the demi-god naruto at the moment.

Orochimaru should be most proud of his student Sasuke. Naruto was pretty bad previous to SM. When Oro 'died' Sasuke was already pretty good on his own.

ok then, let's leave out naruto. that still leaves nagato and minato. Don't come saying he didn't train nagato lel. He trained nagato and co for a long ass time enhancing their skills dramatically. Also, let's not forget if j-man didn't teach naruto rasengan or summoning, he wouldn't be 1/10 of what he is now... so, yes j-man is responsible.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

To be fair, how can we give J-man any credit for what Naruto is now. He died before naruto even learned SM. He has very little to do with the demi-god naruto at the moment.

Orochimaru should be most proud of his student Sasuke. Naruto was pretty bad previous to SM. When Oro 'died' Sasuke was already pretty good on his own.

Jiraiya couldn't fully train naruto because kurama was acting up it was mentioned. Also naruto never would have learned sm if not for jiraiya.

 

[Joshutsu]

So minato has a rinnegan and kyuubi? Kabuto has a rinnegan and kyuubi? anko? Kimimaro? Konan? They all disappoint tsunade's disciples.



ok then, let's leave out naruto. that still leaves nagato and minato. Don't come saying he didn't train nagato lel. He trained nagato and co for a long ass time enhancing their skills dramatically. Also, let's not forget if j-man didn't teach naruto rasengan or summoning, he wouldn't be 1/10 of what he is now... so, yes j-man is responsible.

When he left nagato they were kids, if you want to think he taught nagato everything he knew and demonstrated via rinnengan then good for you.

yeah he trained minato, taught him FTG too. J-man is responsible for rasengan variants and summons for naruto (and apparently minato).

Jiraiya couldn't fully train naruto because kurama was acting up it was mentioned. Also naruto never would have learned sm if not for jiraiya.

You mean if not for Jiraya dying and pa deciding to try naruto. Pa is the one that taught him SM, jiraya can't get credit for that in his death.

@both of you, to me Jiraya only set the clay for his students, they were just good enough to mould themselves into what they are today or got help from other people.

 

[AGoodBoy]

When he left nagato they were kids, if you want to think he taught nagato everything he knew and demonstrated via rinnengan then good for you.

yeah he trained minato, taught him FTG too. J-man is responsible for rasengan variants and summons for naruto (and apparently minato).



You mean if not for Jiraya dying and pa deciding to try naruto. Pa is the one that taught him SM, jiraya can't get credit for that in his death.

@both of you, to me Jiraya only set the clay for his students, they were just good enough to mould themselves into what they are today or got help from other people.

lol. Jiraiya taught nagato to control his rinnegan and helped him master all elements. He also helped konan and yahiko. What, so he didn't teach naruto rasengan and toad summons? Try to undermine the work he put in, that's good for you. But, the fact is, tsunade only taught sakura how to punch hard. I'm sure tsunade taught her how to read, and have perfect chakra control before tsunade even knew her Lol

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

lol. Jiraiya taught nagato to control his rinnegan and helped him master all elements. He also helped konan and yahiko. What, so he didn't teach naruto rasengan and toad summons? Try to undermine the work he put in, that's good for you. But, the fact is, tsunade only taught sakura how to punch hard. I'm sure tsunade taught her how to read, and have perfect chakra control before tsunade even knew her Lol

Tsunade thought her the byakugou seal...

 

[AGoodBoy]

Tsunade thought her the byakugou seal...

tsunade told her to store chakra in her forhead. Sakura then proceeded to do that. That's the essence of a byakugo seal, it's nothing advanced. after that, all sakura needs to do is release that well she created and there, byakugo. In fact, shizune hinted that sakura figured out remote healing on her own; so tsunade didn't even 'teach' her that either. I doubt tsunade sat around with a hyuuga looking at sakura's forhead to make sure she was storing the chakra properly...

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

tsunade told her to store chakra in her forhead. Sakura then proceeded to do that. That's the essence of a byakugo seal, it's nothing advanced. after that, all sakura needs to do is release that well she created and there, byakugo. In fact, shizune hinted that sakura figured out remote healing on her own; so tsunade didn't even 'teach' her that either. I doubt tsunade sat around with a hyuuga looking at sakura's forhead to make sure she was storing the chakra properly...

^^^this guy is just a biased hater... I think I should ignore him