Do you think Orochimaru finally surprassed Itachi?

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I believe so, with Senju DNA, and knowledge, I can actually see him taking him now.
What're your thoughts?​
 

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There is no way.

Unless white zetsu can use Mokuton. Which I have not seen, but I am very forgetful.
 

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Needs feats to suffice. I see him obtaining Ryuu-Sennin Modo down the line anyways, on top of ridiculous reserves courtesy of Hashirama's cells, Mokuton AND all his forbidden jutsu, amplified by Senjutsu, he'll be a formidable source.
 

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There is no way.

Unless white zetsu can use Mokuton. Which I have not seen, but I am very forgetful.

Elaborate, Orochimaru can relatively counter everything in Itachi's arsenal.
 

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They never really fought, but I think current Orochimaru has big chances against Itachi.

But it's still a genious+a hard worker vs a genious with an OP KKG.
 

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Elaborate, Orochimaru can relatively counter everything in Itachi's arsenal.

Mind you, Itachi is analytically smarter than Itachi, albeit Orochimaru has the second most knowledge in all of the manga. But, with Amaterasu hitting Orochimaru, Orochimaru will be forced to use Oral Rebirth. As the new body comes out, Itachi can manipulate the flames to go to the new body. And if things get really tricky, he can always Totsuka blitz.

But if white Zetsu can use Mokuton [scans please] Orochimaru has better chances.
 

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A true battle has never occured. Orochimaru, whenever faced with Itachi always thought of him as a small threat and never took him seriously. Which ended in his defeat... Again and again.

I think an honest to goodness battle would be fairly close. But, with Itachi ahead.
 

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I don't even see Oro beating Kakashi let alone Itachi
 

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In my opinion, Orochimaru surpassed Itachi when he survived Itachi's strongest attack.
 

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He was the power now , he just has to show his feats to back him up .
 

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I think he just needs to attack fast enough to keep Itachi from killing him in the beginning of the fight.

Their fights never last too long because Itachi attacks with strong attacks while Orochimaru keeps talking.
 

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Needs feats to suffice. I see him obtaining Ryuu-Sennin Modo down the line anyways, on top of ridiculous reserves courtesy of Hashirama's cells, Mokuton AND all his forbidden jutsu, amplified by Senjutsu, he'll be a formidable source.

This. Hypothetically he could beat him, but adding a senju body to his abilities does not stop the genjutsu trap Itachi used in their first encounter.

I need actual feats to change my opinion.
 

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Mind you, Itachi is analytically smarter than Itachi, albeit Orochimaru has the second most knowledge in all of the manga. But, with Amaterasu hitting Orochimaru, Orochimaru will be forced to use Oral Rebirth. As the new body comes out, Itachi can manipulate the flames to go to the new body. And if things get really tricky, he can always Totsuka blitz.

But if white Zetsu can use Mokuton [scans please] Orochimaru has better chances.

Improved Shadow Clone shits on Amaterasu.
2 separate sensory abilities followed by Hiding Like a Mole, Mayfly or Attack Prevention shit on Amaterasu.
 

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We haven't seen any new jutsu from him, or that many for that matter

his best so far are edo tensei, 8 headed serpent, and the rebirth

I know he has more, but currently it's all speculation just to what he's truly capable of
 

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Improved Shadow Clone shits on Amaterasu.
2 separate sensory abilities followed by Hiding Like a Mole, Mayfly or Attack Prevention shit on Amaterasu.

You realize it takes longer to make clones than it does to use Amaterasu? Amaterasu is one of the quickest techniques in the manga.

Itachi > Kakashi > Tobirama

Are you mad or something? Because Tobirama can beat Itachi. And Kakashi rofl stomps Itachi. :cool:
 

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What did Senju DNA change??? Has anyone forgotten that this is the same guy that perfected using Hashi cells ,created Yamato, and gave Danzo his freaky arm??? Orochi probably got Hashi cells implanted a long time ago, its just now his whole body is made from them.
 
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