the only people who would have said otherwise in the first place are hardcore sakura fans.
thread was a fun read and well put together but kinda unnecessary,like stating that iruka cant beat madara.
I'm not a Sakura fan.
That's exactly where you should post the ''Tsunade > Kakuzu'' statement.
@On-Topic. No point in making this. You're not gonna get any logical arguments for Sakura. The Tsunade / Sakura fan-base doesn't have any.
I consider myself logical AC. Though I'm not particularly a Sakura fan.
I Agree With You Bro
Sakura Is Useless 
Irrelevant and incorrect.
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When did she steal my Super Turbo Charged v16 rainbow colored unicorn?!
There is lot of hype over her punch...Sakura fans come up with that shit every time.But it is unknown if the poison works on him or not
Poison is unlikely to work. The substance would have a different density than water. Taking advantage of this, Sugietsu's Hydrification technique would merely allow Sugetsu to distillate the poison.
Although something containing a drying agent would work to actually kill Suigetsu by drying his water (like Calcium Chloride for example).
There was no need to read, this is canon U_U
Nowhere has it been shown or canonically stated that Suigetsu > Sakura. As such, I disagree.
Tsunade/Sakura fans are fodder debaters, don't expect a decent counter my friend.
Rude and uncalled for.
^^^^^^^^
Leave belittling insults away from discussion. To go so far as to start insulting other human beings for having an opinion is not needed on Narutobase.
Just to play the Devil's Advocate...
First and foremost, Suigetsu is a human being. He just happens to be a member of the Hozuki Clan who's KKG is the Hydrification technique. As you're aware, it allows him to shift his body into a liquid. To claim that he is made of water and that he does not have organs is something I would say is incorrect. While in a liquid state, he can deform his organs in addition to the rest of his body to water (hence Hydrification). The image in which Suigetsu refers to his water body refers to the Hozuki technique.
Without the use of Katsuyu, Sakura's only chance would lie in three plausible strengths to play on.
-Stamina
-Strength
-Reactions
Stamina
With the Yin Seal, Sakura's stamina is dramatically increased. Giving her 3 years worth of built up chakra. Comparatively, it would be safe to assume that Suigetsu's chakra levels do not exist on this level. Meaning the longer the battle drags on, the more things fall into Sakura's favor. Furthermore, the Yin-Seal has seemingly increased her speed. Upon hitting a Juubi Clone, that was sent flying at high speeds past Naruto and Sasuke, Sakura was capable of leaping in the air and landing on the Clone whilst it moved. Also demonstrating increased hand-eye-movement co-ordination. While this might not give her a 100% guaranteed combat effectiveness against a Kenjutsu specialist, it would go so far as to argue that she'll have a decent enough skill level to make Suigetsu actually work for his cuts.
As I noted before, Suigetsu is a human being who uses a KKG. This technique relies on chakra because like any other KKG, it is some form of jutsu (except plausibly Juugo's Natural Energy absorption... as it absorbs Natural Energy). Abusing the restorative advantages of the Byakugou, Sakura can continuously assault Suigetsu. While Suigetsu will have no issue surviving due to being a water body, he will be forced to continuously bank in chakra to maintain the form.
If he is unable to successfully decapitate Sakura or create enough damage to stop a life time's supply of cellular division, Sakura wins through sheer Stamina. Once Suigetsu's chakra dies out, he won't be able to shift into the Hydrification state. Leaving him vulnerable to kill shots.
Strength
Quite simply, Sakura is physically dominant. Suigetsu may have a combat skill advantage; however, this does not entirely mean that he wins by default. First and foremost, I'll reference the Giga Impact. Now the use of ground strikes are not to kill Suigetsu, but instead to stall him as well as to force Hydrification. The impact of the ground disrupts the ground itself, and was enough to force a large area around her to be repelled. While even this itself wouldn't kill a shinobi, the debris would cause physical injury (unless one blocks them or uses hydrification). Additionally, it forces separation which gives Sakura breathing space. With a Stamina advantage, forcing Suigetsu to waste more energy to even get into combat range is advantageous to Sakura. If the impact is given a grace of luck or crafted skill, Suigetsu could be forced into Hydrification. Pending the direction and flow of the Rocks, this can force his body to be slightly separated... ultimately leading to the disarming of his sword. That or leaving it in a state where Sakura can take it from a partially formed Suigetsu.
Additionally, by mixing the Yin Seal with her physical strength, Sakura should realistically have a chance to disarm Suigetsu though basic combat. Because of the healing properties that exist with the Yin Seal, Sakura can take an initial cut, slash , or stab (stab is unlikely considering the blade style) from Suigetsu. Having superior strength, all she has to do is grab the blade hilt to avoid a complete bisection. At this point, the blade would be more likely to be taken from Suigetsu than it would for Suigetsu to suddenly outmatch Sakura in a test of Strength.
Reactions
Sakura has been shown having explosive Kunai in her arsenal. While the explosion itself not entirely the risk focus, it is the energy associated that is. Provided the timing is correct, Explosive Kunai can detonate just by Suigetsu, the associated heat and energy with the explosion is theoretically capable of evaporating water. Through the combination of enough explosive tags, it is plausible to evaporate Suigetsu if he attempts to turn to Hydrification. Otherwise it would kill him like a normal human being.
Now for more of a fallacy because why not?!
To play a game of Chemistry, reactions are also plausible measures Sakura can use.
1. Antidotes, medical herbs, food pills, and the various poisons in Naruto have to be deduced by some combination of mixtures. Meaning that the Narutoverse must be conscious of not only various chemicals, but also variations of chemicals as well as their stimulus to the human body.
2. Sakura has been shown having explosive Kunai in her arsenal. While the explosion itself not entirely the risk focus, it is the energy associated that is. Provided the timing is correct, Explosive Kunai can detonate just by Suigetsu, the associated heat and energy with the explosion is theoretically capable of evaporating water. Through the combination of enough explosive tags, it is plausible to evaporate Suigetsu if he attempts to turn to Hydrification. Otherwise it would kill him like a normal human being.
The Narutoverse is also home to computers, communication mics, moniter Cameras, and seemingly electricity noting that some of these previously mentioned utilities.
Thus, it would be reasonable to assume that they have basic understandings of Biology (obviously), but also Chemistry. Considering Sakura, in addition to medical ninjutsu, specializes in the crafting of various substances (including poison antidotes and sleep bombs), it is fair to assume she'd have basic knowledge regarding Biology and Chemistry.
With such, it would theoretically be acceptable for her to know that things such as Lithium, Sodium, Potassium, etc. are all explosive in water. Furthermore, something like Lithium Aluminum Hydride is flammable in water. It may be fallacy to assume she knows of them or knows their reactions, but it is simply one option available.
Without Katsuyu, the game for Sakura has to be far more defensive than offensive. If she's capable of playing to her advantages in strength and stamina, it is theoretical that she'd come out on top more times than not. Simply because Naruto has shown a habit in which people with high destructive power (not just physical strength, but overall scale) and stamina outclass those who stand with precise skill.
The advantage overall would indeed be Suigetsu's, but to argue that she has absolutely no options is something I'd disagree with. If one includes Katsuyu, then I'd say the edge belongs to Sakura.
Acid
Strong Acids completely disassociate in water. For example: HCl + H[SUB]2[/SUB]0 ==> H[SUB]3[/SUB]0[SUP]+[/SUP] + Cl[SUP]-[/SUP].
If you want to play the chemistry game: technically Hydronium (H[SUB]3[/SUB]0[SUP]+[/SUP] =/= Water (H[SUB]2[/SUB]0). This is comparatively explaining a difference in Ozone (O[SUB]3[/SUB]) is different from Oxygen (O[SUB]2[/SUB]. So in theory, the disassociation of a Strong Acid such as Katsuyu's would make Suigetsu cease to exist as a water entity. Nothing claims that Suigetsu can control himself as Hydronium, but instead he can only control himself as Water.
Furthermore, These types of reactions can be very exothermic. If the ratio of Acid to Water is extreme (which the case of a giant slug bombarding a single person with volumes of acid would be), then these reactions can heat to the point of boiling.
Just a small amount of water in a large fast food cup of Sulfuric Acid is probably enough to warrant a temperature close to about 208-2010 Degrees Fahrenheit (only 5 Degrees short of the Boiling point of water). Considering the immensely different scale Katsuyu can produce in comparison, it is safe to assume she can boil Suigetsu. Especially considering Sulfuric Acid doesn't immediately burn away flesh, yet Orochimaru was confident Katsuyu could effortlessly kill him during their recent encounter.
Water
You argue that Suigetsu, utilizing his Hydrification, would be able to take over Katsuyu. You also mention she is 85% Water as a Slug.
Why, then, would it not be arguable that Katsuyu herself would not fight back? What stops Katsuyu from controlling Suigetsu as an absorbed liquid?
The fact that the sheer volume of Katsuyu's Liquid existence outclasses Suigetsu's would indicate a more likeliness of Katsuyu to absorb and control Suigetsu would it not?
However, considering the fact that it is no different an argument from either direction, it seems like something that can hardly be used to guarantee a victory for either side. In short, this ability cancels out between the two. Leaving it as no one's advantage.
