The Gedo Mazou Susano complex.

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Madara: my perfect susano can crush anything in existence

>clearly not the case.

he is claiming his susano is perfect for tactical warfare. It is a common thing to put false information in your opponents bag of information, at the moment, he instilled a fear into the alliance that they have NO chance of defeating him.

However, as we have seen with Sasuke, it seems that EMS allows for the perfect susano to be formed, or perhaps it's just different stages until a mastery is completed.

Obito has used the Gedo Mazou has a war tool, and it was actually kind of scary. The size of the Gedo Mazou is roughly the size of perfect susano, I believe that this is no chance, Kishi does not make resemblances for no reason.

Now, in japanese lore, Izangi and Izanami, Wikipedia reference here- Izanagi and Izanami were given a spear decorated with jewels, named Ame-no-nuboko (heavenly spear). Now, Obito had this heavenly spear in the Kurama Susano fight.

The Gedo Mazou while idle has a blindfold on his eyes, I think this implies HOW you get the tech needed for it. I think that an EMS user MUST blind himself, as that would be directly against what the Curse of Hatred stands for, power, greed, and lust for status. I think that Izangi and Izanmi, when used in conjunction causes the blind eyes, with of course, a little bit of younger son direct bloodline, would result in the Rinnegan. Why? Well, it would make sense that the Elder Brother did not have the rinnegan tech, has he was the spiritual successor and he was batshit crazy.

The most likely consideration for this is that, elder brother successors develop abilities based off the 9 tomoe of the juubi, and I believe that the 3 tomoe of the sharingan represent three abilities that could develop.

I think that a user of the sharingan can either have heavy physical eyes, heavy spiritual eyes, or a balance.

Basically, sasuke is a heavy physical user due to his production of Amatersu, and how Amatersu is reflected in his Tengu Susano.

Itachi is a heavy spiritual user as he has Tysukomi has his trademark tech, and Totsuka blade and yata mirror, (which in theory doesn't actually reflect EVERYTHING, but it produces a Genjutsu that makes it APPEAR to be invincible.)

and then Madara, who is an equal of both spiritual and physical energy, why is that we have not seen him use any MS techs at all? well the reason is that he can't use them anymore. He had to give up his EMS for the Rinnegan, he has not displayed the ability to activate MS techs due to the likelyhood that he can't.

Madara more then likely realized that Izangi, a yang based ability, and Izanami, a yin based ability, would result in creating the Rinnegan with the requirements met, which would explain how the rinnegan is white, and not red and black. Imagine, going blind, then due to the Yin and Yang properties of Izangi and Izanami, that it would produce the Rinnegan, why do i feel like this is really reasonable? Yin is the elder brother, and the yang is the younger brother, so combining the powers of senju and uchicha... would result in the Rinnegan, and the common misconception of everyone wanting the first cells, is actually due to Wood Release, and having the ability to control an idle tree, and cause a fruit to bear.

It isn't really about how the first has amazing genes, it is comparable to the third hokage who was also dubbed God of the Shinobi. I want to know why Izangi was given such a show with Danzo, and why Izanmi was given such a show with Kabuto. Kishimoto was broadcasting his intentions to us this entire time.
 

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This thread is just a useless accumulation of randomly connected thoughts.

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i cant honestly bring myself to believe that kishi ever plans that far ahead.

i like your theory but giving too much credit to the plot hole master here.

nice read once again sir, keep it up i enjoy reading your lengthy thoughts.
 

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This thread is just a useless accumulation of randomly connected thoughts.

/Thread.

yea that's what I meant, I really couldn understand the point of his thread in the slightest. First I thought he was talking about susanoo..then he went to the sharingan...then like 6 other subjects....
 

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I agree with you on this thread, as it explains a lot, but I can't help but feel like something is wrong here. I can't place my thoughts or finger on it, so I won't. +REP
 
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This thread is just a useless accumulation of randomly connected thoughts.

/Thread.

your opinion is just a useless accumulation of wasted time.

Stop wasting narutobase bandwidth with your shitty opinions, instead, why not speculate, am i claiming this to be fact? no, but with 17 pages of my favorite manga a week, I like to speculate!

speculation never hurt anyone man.
 
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I agree with you on this thread, as it explains a lot, but I can't help but feel like something is wrong here. I can't place my thoughts or finger on it, so I won't. +REP

oh yes for sure, this is by no means the likelyhood of whats going to happen,

but for the record, i have pretty much nailed the nail on the head with my theorys of every chapter the last couple weeks :)
 

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your opinion is just a useless accumulation of wasted time.

Stop wasting narutobase bandwidth with your shitty opinions, instead, why not speculate, am i claiming this to be fact? no, but with 17 pages of my favorite manga a week, I like to speculate!

speculation never hurt anyone man.


Don't be a hypocrite. You cant say someone's opinion is useless, but expect us to not think yours is useless.

the only thing was your theory is not in order. Its a bunch of random thoughts on one paper. So its confusing a bit. You need to organize your thoughts properly then write what you have to say clearly so we can understand your point of the thread. This is not bashing, just clearing some things up
 

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your opinion is just a useless accumulation of wasted time.

Stop wasting narutobase bandwidth with your shitty opinions, instead, why not speculate, am i claiming this to be fact? no, but with 17 pages of my favorite manga a week, I like to speculate!

speculation never hurt anyone man.

Haha, I'm not the one who wrote the wall of text! You've just scrambled a load of ideas carelessly without even thinking about how it will appear to others.

And that's a fact because you only have to skim through it.
 
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Haha, I'm not the one who wrote the wall of text! You've just scrambled a load of ideas carelessly without even thinking about how it will appear to others.

And that's a fact because you only have to skim through it.

The theory itself is structured to deliver the punchline.
 
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I don't understand how i have to clarify how Susano, Gedo Mazou, and the Rinnegan come together, but suit yourselves.
 

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The theory itself is structured to deliver the punchline.

Here's a tip - Go and look at how the NB Legends go about presenting theories, for example:




Clear, good syntax and well thought through.
 

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Just like a Sir derp obito thread. You get a bunch of info on japanese myths, then try to tie it all together and fail.
 
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I'm with you a bit on this. If Madara used Izanagi during the big Hashirama fight, and Izanami later in life, I can see that being a possible way to earn the Rinnegan (maybe Madara cast the Izanami on himself and was stuck in it for years, and just escaped right before death)

I definitely agree that chapters spent regarding Izanami and Izanagi weren't just for those battles, there will more to play out regarding them.
 

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Do you know sussanoo user have a risk to be blind if using it many time without rest?

Sasuke got his original sharingan blinded fighting Danz0.

Sasuke have to be very careful now, use his susanoo wisely, or he might lost itachi eyes as well.
 

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Here's a tip - Go and look at how the NB Legends go about presenting theories, for example:




Clear, good syntax and well thought through.

^^^^this is a literary blowjob :)

I do believe and felt while reading the thread many highlights regarding the sharingan were presented in a refreshing way. I guess you´re into adoring whatever is heavily typed and shown to you.
In my opinion, the earlier thread is a bit more of what I would like to read in a site fan such as this, instead of nerdy boys compiling tons of pseudo-enciclopedical knowledge -which yeah, turns most ignorant adults and infants into profile fanboys- left alive only by perjuring themselves by re-edting the so called awesome threads monthly.

This last point is the axis of my dissagreement with you, as many ancients gods, imaginative trips to Japan and postcards , most of the times super threads collapase because Kishimoto is an artist, not an anthropologist hitherto he can flex, edit, cut and scrap whatever he likes about his own national folklore.

Viva this thread

peace
 
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you lost me at "japanese lore"
don't fall for the same thing derp obito did.
 
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