Kakashi is not the same tier as Sasuke guys.

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Let's get back to the Earth... Everybody got too excited seeing Kakashi shattering Gedo Mazou's arm into another dimension, but we already knew this since he tried to warp Gedo once and Obito stopped him for a reason- just because Kamui is that powerful and it can. U_U
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Now, Kakashi may have the eye but he lacks the body of a Uchiha, he doesn't have the stamina to keep his Sharringan for too long, hell... he cannot even deactivate it since it's borrowed...Kamui can be used only a bunch of times(3 at it's best) thdn Kakashi drops down immobilized.

Kakashi is the only character so far that keeps with a normal chakra reserves if it's not the war.
Only the plot got him thus far and Kyuubi, he had to be blind already but w/e.

Remember, no matter how intelligent he is Sasuke is the one calling the shots not Kakashi. U_U
Kakashi have to survive a continues Susano'o arrows.
Reacting against Amaterasu which one shots if it's spawned correctly, you see Kamui can be pretty much his disadvantage in such a fight the longer it takes.

The student surpassed his master.
 
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kakashi has been fodder tier since the start of shippuden.!!
 

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kakashi is clearly being boosted by obito's presence

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kakashi isn't warping more than a few times without obito
 

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kakashi is clearly being boosted by obito's presence

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kakashi isn't warping more than a few times without obito

this... is the truth
 

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kakashi is clearly being boosted by obito's presence

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kakashi isn't warping more than a few times without obito

I agree with you
 

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Sasuke didn't do 1% of what Kakashi did in this war.You need reread the manga, Kakashi has nothing tod o with part 1 Kakashi who was exhausted after using sharingan for few minute and 2 suiton jutsu.The current Kakashi fought for almost 2 days without any help against the swordmens untill the middle of the fight against Obito + 6 bijuus.If you would paid attention , you'd see that Kakashi has one of the best chakra control, and his body get used more after each fight we saw it in the manga, everything is plot in the manga same for Sasuke helped thousands time .

To finish Kakashi will one shot Sasuke instantly since kamui is way faster than all his jutsus.
Even when Sasuke tried to kill Kakashi when Kakashi was still trying to bring him back, Sasuke still failed while Kakashi did not have intend to kill him.

On the one shot game, Kakashi win low dificulty.Sasuke has to survive the fastest mangekyou jutsu which is stated that no defense is possible. Sasuke will play with his amaterasu and susanoo in the other dimension...only if Kakashi prefered to spare him by warping his full body instead of kill him with headshot .
 

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His chakra reserves have increased in the war and you only need to go back to the basics to realize why - experience and exercise. Having more of the former increases spiritual energy and the latter increases physical energy which when combined, makes chakra.

In one instance, he can now use Kamui about 5 times before his body needs to rest for a while.

He may not be on Sasuke's level but he's not that far behind.
 

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I can't stop laughing at people saying Kakashi's Kamui proficiency is only thanks to Obito's presence. xd
If that was so, Kakashi would have noted this.

What Madara said clearly means that both Sharingan are needed to use their full power - which is obviously true, as Obito can't use Kamui long-range without Kakashi's eye and Kakashi can't use Kamui phasing without Obito's eye.

How can you be so ignorant?

Kakashi one-shots Sasuke just like he can one-shot 99.9% of NV. You might not like it, but that's how it is, Kishimoto made Kamui way too powerful.
 

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I can't stop laughing at people saying Kakashi's Kamui proficiency is only thanks to Obito's presence. xd
If that was so, Kakashi would have noted this.

What Madara said clearly means that both Sharingan are needed to use their full power - which is obviously true, as Obito can't use Kamui long-range without Kakashi's eye and Kakashi can't use Kamui phasing without Obito's eye.

How can you be so ignorant?

Kakashi one-shots Sasuke just like he can one-shot 99.9% of NV. You might not like it, but that's how it is, Kishimoto made Kamui way too powerful.

Kamui is haxxed alright.

If Kakashi were being 'boosted' by Obito's presence, how come he's been like this before Obito was even unmasked and before he even realised there was a connection? Some people.
 

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I can't stop laughing at people saying Kakashi's Kamui proficiency is only thanks to Obito's presence. xd
If that was so, Kakashi would have noted this.

What Madara said clearly means that both Sharingan are needed to use their full power - which is obviously true, as Obito can't use Kamui long-range without Kakashi's eye and Kakashi can't use Kamui phasing without Obito's eye.

How can you be so ignorant?

Kakashi one-shots Sasuke just like he can one-shot 99.9% of NV. You might not like it, but that's how it is, Kishimoto made Kamui way too powerful.
why would obito say what he did in chapter 602? and how do you explain kakashi's sudden stamina boost, when thats been his weakness the entire series?
Kamui is haxxed alright.

If Kakashi were being 'boosted' by Obito's presence, how come he's been like this before Obito was even unmasked and before he even realised there was a connection? Some people.

did obito stop being obito with his mask on?
 
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why would obito say what he did in chapter 602?

Because that's what Madara told him...? It was just a repetition of "teamwork rules".

and how do you explain kakashi's sudden stamina boost, when thats been his weakness the entire series?

It doesn't need to be necessarily stamina. Improving chakra control has a similar effect - techniques become less chakra-taxing and thus, you can use more of them.
How do I explain it? With something called development. Seeing the size of Gamakichi during the Pain invasion arc and the War arc it's obvious that at least several months have passed. Naruto and Sasuke are not the only characters who improve in this manga.

And seriously, Kakashi would have realized if he suddenly found his Kamui less chakra-taxing or easier to use.
By the way, two can play that game - Obito was stronger in this war only thanks to Kakashi's presence and he wouldn't be able to use Kamui so much if it wasn't for that.

Nah, I'm obviously joking, that's stupid. :p
What Madara said meant that having only one eye is not the same as having both. Stop reading into it so much.
 

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Sasuke is a fodder compared to Kakashi U_U
 

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of course kakashi isn't even beating sasuke at 30 percent power
 

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I love the kakashi hate. Everyone hates op characters.

Let's take a trip down memory lane.
The first time kakashi used kamui(in tandem with other techs of course) how many times did he use it?
3 times.

Now one would think that kakashi being the man that he is would get better at it by the time the war arc(6-7arc's later) rolls around. Yet people still want to deny him his feats.

I bet if I said le sauce can't use ps without nardo I'd cause an uproar with you fanboys. Even though there's nothing disproving this.

Lol
 

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Sasuke isn't even on Obito's level, let alone Kakashi.
 

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Let's get back to the Earth... Everybody got too excited seeing Kakashi shattering Gedo Mazou's arm into another dimension, but we already knew this since he tried to warp Gedo once and Obito stopped him for a reason- just because Kamui is that powerful and it can. U_U
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Now, Kakashi may have the eye but he lacks the body of a Uchiha, he doesn't have the stamina to keep his Sharringan for too long, hell... he cannot even deactivate it since it's borrowed...Kamui can be used only a bunch of times(3 at it's best) thdn Kakashi drops down immobilized.

Kakashi is the only character so far that keeps with a normal chakra reserves if it's not the war.
Only the plot got him thus far and Kyuubi, he had to be blind already but w/e.

Remember, no matter how intelligent he is Sasuke is the one calling the shots not Kakashi. U_U
Kakashi have to survive a continues Susano'o arrows.
Reacting against Amaterasu which one shots if it's spawned correctly, you see Kamui can be pretty much his disadvantage in such a fight the longer it takes.

The student surpassed his master.

kamui 1 shots sasuke along with his PS and sasuke will live his remaining fodder life in other dimension
 

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Sasuke didn't do 1% of what Kakashi did in this war.You need reread the manga, Kakashi has nothing tod o with part 1 Kakashi who was exhausted after using sharingan for few minute and 2 suiton jutsu.The current Kakashi fought for almost 2 days without any help against the swordmens untill the middle of the fight against Obito + 6 bijuus.If you would paid attention , you'd see that Kakashi has one of the best chakra control, and his body get used more after each fight we saw it in the manga, everything is plot in the manga same for Sasuke helped thousands time .

To finish Kakashi will one shot Sasuke instantly since kamui is way faster than all his jutsus.
Even when Sasuke tried to kill Kakashi when Kakashi was still trying to bring him back, Sasuke still failed while Kakashi did not have intend to kill him.

On the one shot game, Kakashi win low dificulty.Sasuke has to survive the fastest mangekyou jutsu which is stated that no defense is possible. Sasuke will play with his amaterasu and susanoo in the other dimension...only if Kakashi prefered to spare him by warping his full body instead of kill him with headshot .

i agree with this person
 

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Kakashi is a very skilled ninja. He lacks only chakra and Stamina. He seriously needs a tailed beast.. If he gets 1, he'll be top 15
 
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