Naruto having Kurama vs Sasuke having Sharingan

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

I can't make sense of that. He needed the Sharingan just to keep up with Naru's movements.

Be smart before you reply to me. I meant when he actually said that himself. When he first punched him in the stomach off the rock.

 

[UzumakiSO6P]

I don't care how long naruto has had it or how hard the struggle was to live with it, it's not his. It's borrowed power independent of a clan or KKG. It's not his. Never will be.

Would it be fair to say Sasuke having Itachi's eyes is borrowed too? I know my thread was just about the sharingan as a whole, but just wanted to see what you think about this too.

 

[Champ]

Uchiha's awaken the Sharingan on their own. Naruto was given Kurama

 

[The Necromancer]

Be smart before you reply to me. I meant when he actually said that himself. When he first punched him in the stomach off the rock.

How the **** was anyone supposed to know that's what you meant...?

Would it be fair to say Sasuke having Itachi's eyes is borrowed too? I know my thread was just about the sharingan as a whole, but just wanted to see what you think about this too.

The EMS is a natural progression of the sharingan (as stated by Kabuto) and is activated as it's supposed to be.

The Kyuubi is not a specific right of the Uzumaki clan.

 

[UzumakiSO6P]

Uchiha's awaken the Sharingan on their own. Naruto was given Kurama

Not all Uchihas awaken it though

 

[Da Best Ever]

man wtf is this....the sharingan is part of sasuke's heritage its part of his dna hence why its called bloodline limit...the kyuubi is a borrowed power, that is why jinchuriki have to ask for their tail beast chakra...naruto's own power goes up to sage mode which is still powerful....but u claimed your not hating on sasuke yet u make this thread in regards to him and trying to do to him what others do to naruto, which isn't the same thing, the sharingan is part of the uchiha's dna, uzumaki's, common traits are red hair and strong life force, not the kyuubi

 

[I Flip 4 Naruto]

Are you all crazy he would literary be J man. if you look at the manga they have basically the same skills and personality that is the purpose of J man's character in the first place.

 

[AlphaScythian]

How the **** was anyone supposed to know that's what you meant...?

I got him.....Dont ask

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

I don't care how long naruto has had it or how hard the struggle was to live with it, it's not his. It's borrowed power independent of a clan or KKG. It's not his. Never will be.

This^ if you can't accept facts gtfo, we don't need you. Sasuke base solo's with no diff.

He's always had speed before he unlocked his sharingan, enough speed to beat naruto at least. Confirmed when he almost took the bell from Kakashi in part 1.

It took Naruto years to just to trick kakashi with a stupid book. With that, he still hasn't passed the test...any of his tests.

Written exam
Kakashi bell test
chuunin exams
become hokage (goals as well)
get sasuke back
master the complete version of sage mode (not the one he has now...its another one that's way more powerful)
The WSRS without sage mode
hell even an individual hand rasengan...even when in BSM he can't..still needs extra hands.

Based on all this...its foreshadowed that Naruto isn't going to complete his dream and goal.

 

[UzumakiSO6P]

man wtf is this....the sharingan is part of sasuke's heritage its part of his dna hence why its called bloodline limit...the kyuubi is a borrowed power, that is why jinchuriki have to ask for their tail beast chakra...naruto's own power goes up to sage mode which is still powerful....but u claimed your not hating on sasuke yet u make this thread in regards to him and trying to do to him what others do to naruto, which isn't the same thing, the sharingan is part of the uchiha's dna, uzumaki's, common traits are red hair and strong life force, not the kyuubi

I was definitely not hating on Sasuke, just added I wasn't because I wanted to make sure someone foolish thought I was.
The thread was started to see how others compared the two.

 

[The Necromancer]

This^ if you can't accept facts gtfo, we don't need you. Sasuke base solo's with no diff.

He's always had speed before he unlocked his sharingan, enough speed to beat naruto at least. Confirmed when he almost took the bell from Kakashi in part 1.

It took Naruto years to just to trick kakashi with a stupid book. With that, he still hasn't passed the test...any of his tests.

Written exam
Kakashi bell test
chuunin exams
become hokage (goals as well)
get sasuke back
master the complete version of sage mode (not the one he has now...its another one that's way more powerful)
The WSRS without sage mode
hell even an individual hand rasengan...even when in BSM he can't..still needs extra hands.

Based on all this...its foreshadowed that Naruto isn't going to complete his dream and goal.

Complete version of Sage Mode...?
Also he did make a 1 handed rasengan finally. Only in the last few chapters though. Only took him as long as it took Minato to INVENT the jutsu...

 

[UzumakiSO6P]

This^ if you can't accept facts gtfo, we don't need you. Sasuke base solo's with no diff.

He's always had speed before he unlocked his sharingan, enough speed to beat naruto at least. Confirmed when he almost took the bell from Kakashi in part 1.

It took Naruto years to just to trick kakashi with a stupid book. With that, he still hasn't passed the test...any of his tests.

Written exam
Kakashi bell test
chuunin exams
become hokage (goals as well)
get sasuke back
master the complete version of sage mode (not the one he has now...its another one that's way more powerful)
The WSRS without sage mode
hell even an individual hand rasengan...even when in BSM he can't..still needs extra hands.

Based on all this...its foreshadowed that Naruto isn't going to complete his dream and goal.

I think Naruto used a one handed rasengan when he had Tobirama transport him above Obito. If I can find the manga page I'll post it.

 

[Da Best Ever]

if u weren't hating on sasuke why did u even reference what u have seen others say about naruto having a borrowed powered??? when that is true....and u start ranting about what if sasuke didn't have the sharingan....the sharingan is part of uchiha dna, the kyuubi si not part of uzumaki dna nor namikaze(which is minato's last name)...so its not the same point blank

 

[Da Best Ever]

so it took naruto years to make a 1 handed rasenagan....sasuke learned and mastered chidori at the same time naruto learned rasenagan and sasuke not only can make it himself but also can manipulate its shape....


Necromancer4276 your post was really spot on, I mean not to be a co-signer but that's all true

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

I think Naruto used a one handed rasengan when he had Tobirama transport him above Obito. If I can find the manga page I'll post it.

No, he was in sage mode look at the next chapter after that one or is it the last page of that chapter...idk. But he was in sage mode. You can actually tell the way the rasengan was off his hand and floating like.

Complete version of Sage Mode...?
Also he did make a 1 handed rasengan finally. Only in the last few chapters though. Only took him as long as it took Minato to INVENT the jutsu...

That was two hands :|
It also wasn't complete. He said it himself. The compete version is when he hit kabuto
I know my Minato and rasengan's hehe.

Also, Minato is a random ninja, Naruto is not, therefore his chakra control is better and had a bigger chakra pool.

 

[Da Best Ever]

and if the thread is to compare the two in their own power then sasuke has ems and naruto has sm...naruto with borrowed power from the kyuubi reaches bsm

 

[Erebus]

If u want to compare Naruto and Sasuke, without the power insanity then take away Kurama, Naruto is left with sage mode, because that was a technique he learnt, kurama is a bijuu. For Sasuke take away his EMS leaving him with MS, as EMS is obtained by killing another MS user and taking their eyes. So you can compare them with those

 

[The Necromancer]

If u want to compare Naruto and Sasuke, without the power insanity then take away Kurama, Naruto is left with sage mode, because that was a technique he learnt, kurama is a bijuu. For Sasuke take away his EMS leaving him with MS, as EMS is obtained by killing another MS user and taking their eyes. So you can compare them with those

Go even further and take away Sasuke's MS and 3t and Naruto's Uzumaki reserves. I know who wins that fight.

 

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In all seriousness though, it shouldn't really matter. It already happened. Why try and fap the past when we can fap Madara about to fodderize Sausage and Nardo as a pair.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Sasuke wouldn't have needed the sharingan to beat naruto at the valley so yes.

Also Idk weather to compare the fox and curse mark sooo...base sasuke solo's no diff.

Sasuke needed to take a pill which not only gave him CM level 2 but increased his based stats, that is given power and not his own so invalid. Both have given power, but they both made that power theirs.

I don't care how long naruto has had it or how hard the struggle was to live with it, it's not his. It's borrowed power independent of a clan or KKG. It's not his. Never will be.

The Doujutsu was given by the Sage and so were the Bijuus, if the Sage never passed them down then Sasuke wouldn't have his Sharingan or powerful chakra and Naruto wouldn't have his large reserve or Kurama. Pretty much even out. Minato had no known KKG for large chakra but he at least had Kage level chakra so it's not like Naruto still wouldn't get that plus no fox= Minato and his mom training him so FTG, Barrier jutsu, summoning jutsu, Uzumaki powerful seals, he wouldn't be a slacker who did pranks for attention so would have friends and might be more analyzing like Minato.

Sasuke would still be a genius in his own right and would have his dad and Itachi to train him. He wouldn't be able to learn chidori (Kakashi wouldn't be able to use it in battle) because you need the Sharingan to read your opponent's movement in case of counter attacks so that's bye to his chidori variations and Kirin.