Yeah and I agreed with you; however, some people like Icelerate and Forbidden Technique think Kitsuchi is Kage levelDidn't I told you Kitsuchi is on the same level where Darui and Zabuza are?
Oh. Well he definitely isn't.Yeah and I agreed with you; however, some people like Icelerate and Forbidden Technique think Kitsuchi is Kage level
I think they are equals. It's true Darui and Zabuza don't have a technique on the same scale as Kitsuchi, however, Kitsuchi doesn't have a close ranged technique on the same scale as Darui and ZabuzaHe can beat Mei in long range, i don't see him beating others.
The reason people stated why he is above Zabuza or Darui is because he has large scale attacks that can go up against monstrous titans like Gedo or Juubi even for a while, others do not have such things in their arsenal. So even in 1 vs 1 against Zabuza or Darui could go either way thus make them seem "equals" in a fight; the latter competators do not have things in their arsenal that can provide the same scale against certain monsters.
How does Mei beat him? I agree thoughBuddy Kitsuchi can't take out of these people...Mei destroys him especially...
His Earth Release techniques are on an absolutely absurd scale that Mei simply cannot avoid or escape .Someone should explain how can Kitsuchi beat Mei :|
Totally jounin level. :|I don't find it ridiculous at all. His massive scale of jutsu is way out of a high jounin-low kage tier's league, number one (Has one of the biggest chakra reserves in the manga). He was deemed commander of over 10,000+ ninjas in the shinobi alliance which speaks volumes about his intelligence and leadership. Not only that, but he was the commander of the short-ranged battle division, which means he has to be very skilled in CQC despite his lack of feats; and we already know his long-range jutsu is on a top-tier kage and above level. So by hype in addition to his very limited, yet impressive feats, I don't find it far-fetched at all to say he is slightly above low-kage tier.
Great little Mei analysis here, give it a read sometime if you wantHow does Mei beat him? I agree though
Mei is an underrated character, always being referred to as 'the weakest kage' so this can give people a better perspective on her power...
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NinjutsuMei deserves a 5 in ninjutsu because well, she has 2 kekkei genkai as well as usage of water, earth, and fire release techs
Lava Release
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A combination of doton and katon, Mei's lava release is a formidable offense,You must be registered for see links. As shown in the page above she could just spam it to cover the entire field in lava or, like she used it against Sasuke, she canYou must be registered for see linksandYou must be registered for see linksso that she can attack again. Because she was wiping lava from her mouth without harming herself it should go without saying that she's immune to it.
Boil Release
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The second of Mei's KkGs and a mix of katon and suiton. It's just like Hidden Mist Jutsu, but with... acid. It's obviously strong enough to melt susanoo which has been able to take attacks such as laser circus and the Raikage's raiga bomb.You must be registered for see links, which means she can control the pH levels of her mist. If she used this in an open area and cranked the pH level to the lowest levels possible it would easily make up for it not being used in a closed room. This is made even deadlier by the fact that the opponent won't realize it's acid until it's too late.
Water Release
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Since you know, she's the Mizukage, kage of a village known for their suiton, she's a master of water jutsu. Even in a dry area with no nearby water source, she can use a massive Waterspout that is capable of extinguishing even the strongest fire jutsu and then quickly use that same water to create a giant Water Dragon Bullet which is strong enough toYou must be registered for see links. This gives her both a good offense and defense at the same time, she can also drown her opponents. mei was gonna use 2 more suiton against Madara but Kishimoto trolled her and she fell asleep and lacked the speed to perform them. She can also useYou must be registered for see linkswhich as demonstrated in Kakashi vs Zabuza, can easily block the opponent's vision and even give her an advantage against Sharingan users.
Fire Release
Although mei has not been shown using katon on panel, it's a part of her Lava and Boil Release and she tells Sasuke that she uses fire nature. Fire release can provide for some very destructive attacks even though she already has stuff like lava globs in her arsenal. it also gives her immunity to Wind Release.
Earth Release
Same as above. Earth release is good for both offense and defense and mei could potentially use earth walls or mud to restrict her opponents or block. Gives her immunity to Water Release, although Mei herself is already good at suiton.
Hand Seals Because Mei barely had to use hand seals for jutsu such as Water Dragon Bullet (which is said to takeYou must be registered for see links) and her own KkGs, she gets a 5 in hand seals. This also helps because she doesn't have to spend a lot of time preparing a powerful large scale attack,
SpeedSince Mei doesn't have many taijutsu feats I am counting this as her Jutsu speed.
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There is a considerable distance between Madara and the Kages, which only grows bigger when Tsunade goes forward to punch him. However, Mei is able to save Tsunade from that distance with her Suiton. Shame we couldn't see her do the same thing in recent chapters...
Mei can also time attacks with the Raikage. While nothing special, she wouldn't be able to do it if she was slow.
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Taijutsu Mei isn't a taijutsu oriented person, but regardless she still has some feats worth noting. For starters, she showed some taijutsu skill with Black Zetsu, who was one of Tobi's trusted allies.
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She also defended against a punch from Susanoo, although Gaara saved her by cushioning her fall, she took the punch itself.
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Strength Just gave her an average score because she's not a taijutsu type like I said. Apparently she can lift the Hiramekarei, though that's not saying much.
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Stamina During the Summit,You must be registered for see links(including Mei).
Mei was able to stand along with the kages after a fight with Black Zetsu for a long fight with Madara, even managing to create a water dragon after getting her ass whooped by Susanoo.
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GenjutsuMei has shown no genjutsu skill herself although she's a kage and was prepared to fight Danzo and Sasuke even with the knowledge that they had sharingan. Thus she must have some type of genjutsu defense. I'm thinking Hidden Mist which is a perfect counter to any visual genjutsu, though she should have basic genjutsu breaking skills too so I gave her an average score.
Intelligence Mei saw through Ao from the start when Fuu possessed his body, and showed some knowledge on battle strategy during the Kage fight with Madara, such as using lava to cushion him in order for A to punch him, and clouding up the Rinnegan's field of vision. Furthermore, as a Kage she has knowledge of a lot of stuff outside her village. She showed some knowledge about the Uchiha clan at the summit (besides the attractive men thing) and immediately recognized Minato's Hiraishin being used by other shinobi.
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I agree with this, nothing leads me to believe he can't beat Mei at mid-long distances while his dotons have elemental advantage and more than enough to block her suitons. Lava release can be blocked by doton walls even Ino-Shika somehow did (he can make better naturally) and acidic mist is not a threat from a distance and naturally dispersed in an open area.His Earth Release techniques are on an absolutely absurd scale that Mei simply cannot avoid or escape .
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^ The Gedo Statue was in the center of that, imagine if his target were a human being. Look closer at people compared to Earth Release: Mountainous Earth Technique:
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What speed feats and/or strength feats does Mei have to avoid or escape that? Her only speed feats are intercepting Zetsu and Madara, in which she had pre-cog. If Mei is targeted by Earth Release: Mountainous Earth Technique, she's going to be crushed.
However, if you don't really think she can't be caught by that, then he can use Earth Release: Moving Earth Core
To trap her underground and then use Mountainous Earth Technique.
Mei specializes in mid-long distance ninjutsu. Water Style is inferior to Earth Style, and Mei's Water techniques are not capable of breaking through Kitsuchi's Earth Defenses.
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Lava Release isn't breaking through Rising Excavation.
When fighting Kitsuchi, the entire battlefield is your enemy. It would take either massive strength, top tier speed, or battlefield changing tech's to counter Kitsuch, and Mei has none of those.
I will say that Tsunade and Kisame most likely defeat him.
Kitsuchi beats first two. That thing he used on gedo would crush kisame even in WD. Earth > Water
Tsunade probably wins because she can just smash his rock in pieces while it comes to her.
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