Will Madara challenge Narutos ideology

[Oksus]

Obito failed miserably, but do you think Madara has chances of succeeding ?

I want to see Narutos beliefs shaken to the core once again, to see him arise from it smarter and realize that some battles cannot be won without sacrifices.

Do you think Madara has what it takes to that ? We know he has a strong personality and has zero chances of being talked into changing.

Question is whether he is strong enough to bring Naruto to that state we have seen him in his battle against Pein ?
I don't want his battle to be just physical, he has to show depth and rise up to his status as a final villain, bring Naruto to the brink of defeat, make us readers concerned for the characters again, remove the god damn plot shields.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I dont want that, but even if that happens what naruto gotta say? You're just like me? Please, sasuke has better chance at TNJ madara

 

[Oksus]

I dont want that, but even if that happens what naruto gotta say? You're just like me? Please, sasuke has better chance at TNJ madara

Naruto has nothing to say, that's the point. He has to learn that not everything can be solved by talking.

 

[SanjiNL]

I doubt it.

 

[Bimbonium]

If he does, he'll only get tnjed and we've had enough of that

 

[KillerbYo]

I honestly dont think so, I think Obito was the last one to do that, well ok maybe Sasuke will a little.
But Naruto was confident when facing Obito unlike when he was facing Nagato where he couldnt come up with an answer of his own.
I think Madara may be one of the few badasses that just really wants to kill stuff.
Maybe he has been to much tainted with war to give peace a chance.

 

[Oksus]

I honestly dont think so, I think Obito was the last one to do that, well ok maybe Sasuke will a little.
But Naruto was confident when facing Obito unlike when he was facing Nagato where he couldnt come up with an answer of his own.
I think Madara may be one of the few badasses that just really wants to kill stuff.
Maybe he has been to much tainted with war to give peace a chance.

I want his confidence destroyed.
"I wont let any of my friends die" especially

 

[Xāvî1]

yes offcourse

 

[scorezor]

Madara will only talk when it's necessary .

 

[AlphaScythian]

Naruto has nothing to say, that's the point. He has to learn that not everything can be solved by talking.

Well you have to tell that to kishi somehow

 

[-Punk-]

Even if it happens , logically speaking Naruto has nothing to say to him , Madara has more knowledge about the world & experience , what a 16 year old fairy tail believer has to say means nothing to him .

 

[Smd]

we will see if he is vunerable to TNJ

 

[Transcendence]

I hope he does.

 

[Oksus]

Even if it happens , logically speaking Naruto has nothing to say to him , Madara has more knowledge about the world & experience , what a 16 year old fairy tail believer has to say means nothing to him .

I dont want Naruto to beat Madara when it comes to talking. I want him to be pushed into killing him.

 

[-Punk-]

I dont want Naruto to beat Madara when it comes to talking. I want him to be pushed into killing him.

Yeah exactly , Naruto has to also learn that sometimes he will have to make hard decisions .

 

[Oksus]

Yeah exactly , Naruto has to also learn that sometimes he will have to make hard decisions .

He cannot possibly become a Hokage without learning that.

 

[saw2097]

I seriously doubt it, Obito and Nagato both came to Naruto's way of thinking, if Madara tries it just means he will be TNJ.
I seriously doubt Naruto will ever kill anyone or that his confidence will ever break.

Besides the message that Kishi wants to send with the manga is that Naruto's right, if he wants to send that message then Naruto will succeed in the end and get what he wants.

Its a Shounen manga after all.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I seriously doubt it, Obito and Nagato both came to Naruto's way of thinking, if Madara tries it just means he will be TNJ.
I seriously doubt Naruto will ever kill anyone or that his confidence will ever break.

Besides the message that Kishi wants to send with the manga is that Naruto's right, if he wants to send that message then Naruto will succeed in the end and get what he wants.

Its a Shounen manga after all.

Naruto isn't always right.....infact any philospher would point out the flaws in his idealogy since it's pretty naive.Anyway Madara is the last person to get TNJ'ed so it ain't happening.

 

[shelke]

As much as we - especially me - want Naruto's utterly childish and stupid ideologies dashed to pieces - let's face it, a moronic ending is inevitable. Naruto so tenaciously clings to Will of Fire, that somehow, his passions are more ardent that those American fops who gave into Paste-Board Mask of The American Dream right after World Wars. How I find these two similar in terms of their illusions.

Bottom line - it isn't happening. He might challenge it. But either he will be defeated or he will give into Naruto's not-even-2-dollar worth gibberish.

 

[Lay]

Madara is a person who doesn't like story. So, aint gonna happen