Madaras susanoo...

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Don't think it was an asspull...remember when Madara was using susanoo while he was using rinnegan...or itachi vs Sasuke fight.

Itachi told us that you need to have 2 MS to activate susanoo. Yet Madara is using it...I think Madara knows a ton more than itachi about susanoo and all of the Sharingans secret...
 

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Don't think it was an asspull...remember when Madara was using susanoo while he was using rinnegan...or itachi vs Sasuke fight.

Itachi told us that you need to have 2 MS to activate susanoo. Yet Madara is using it...I think Madara knows a ton more than itachi about susanoo and all of the Sharingans secret...

IT was Stated that you need both eyes to UNLOCK susano but maybe once IT has been unlocked you are free to activate IT whenever you want to. Its like a box you need keys to open IT but once IT has been opened you can throw away the keys but still open the box.
 

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IT was Stated that you need both eyes to UNLOCK susano but maybe once IT has been unlocked you are free to activate IT whenever you want to. Its like a box you need keys to open IT but once IT has been opened you can throw away the keys but still open the box.

Nice logic buddy..U_U
 

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ass pull like always for madara.
 

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U need ur ms to unlock it but not use it
 

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The logic makes sense but I still think that it's an ass pull. Using it while rinnegan is active isn't that big of an ass pull but using it wit NO eyes?! C'mon now kishi.
 

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maybe we have to wait a few weeks fr answers .. obviously . NB's thread are gonna be all abt this in the coming week.. Threads=shitloads.
 
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IT was Stated that you need both eyes to UNLOCK susano but maybe once IT has been unlocked you are free to activate IT whenever you want to. Its like a box you need keys to open IT but once IT has been opened you can throw away the keys but still open the box.

I mean that does make sense. And obviously we've seen Madara use susanoo with Rinnegan and obviously he's using it with no eyes. So if this is true, then I'm curious as to why we havnt seen anyone use susanoo with 3 tomoe Sharringan. It doesn't really matter, but just sayin...like if MS/EMS ends up exhausting chakra/eyes, couldn't you use susano in 3 tomoe state to preserve chakra? Only then activating MS/EMS when needing to use a jutsu?
 

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IT was Stated that you need both eyes to UNLOCK susano but maybe once IT has been unlocked you are free to activate IT whenever you want to. Its like a box you need keys to open IT but once IT has been opened you can throw away the keys but still open the box.

If that's the case then it wouldn't be a big deal if you lost the light in your eyes. You could get some regular eyes and keep using all the sharingan techs. I feel like kishi goofed because this would destroy any importance in the techniques blinding the user.
 

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I mean that does make sense. And obviously we've seen Madara use susanoo with Rinnegan and obviously he's using it with no eyes. So if this is true, then I'm curious as to why we havnt seen anyone use susanoo with 3 tomoe Sharringan. It doesn't really matter, but just sayin...like if MS/EMS ends up exhausting chakra/eyes, couldn't you use susano in 3 tomoe state to preserve chakra? Only then activating MS/EMS when needing to use a jutsu?

This^

I was thinking the same thing. That is if this can be achieved by any Uchiha with MS or EMS. If that's the case I would think Itachi would have used Susanoo in regular 3 tome Sharingan form since his stamina is weak and he needed to conserve chakra more than anyone else. But I am thinking this is something unique to Madara. As you know each MS Uchiha has something they specialize in beyond the other members of their clan.

Itachi-Sharingan Genjutsu (Tsukuyomi, Koto Amatsukami, Izanagi, Iganami)
Obito-Kamui
Sasuke-Amateratsu (Enton jutsu)
Madara-Susanoo (Perfect Susanoo)

I think since Madara has mastered Susanoo past the others he is able to use it without possessing the MS, EMS, or Rinnegan. He is just on that level I suppose. just a theory though.
 

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If that's the case then it wouldn't be a big deal if you lost the light in your eyes. You could get some regular eyes and keep using all the sharingan techs. I feel like kishi goofed because this would destroy any importance in the techniques blinding the user.

^This^ lmao to the people trying to justify yet another ass pull by Kishi. I don't think at this point an explaination is even necessary. Anyone who's followed the manga up to this point and has judged it objectively, knows Kishi has been very inconsistent to say the least. Still a cool story, but a lost faith in its logic after the pain arc.
 

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This^

I was thinking the same thing. That is if this can be achieved by any Uchiha with MS or EMS. If that's the case I would think Itachi would have used Susanoo in regular 3 tome Sharingan form since his stamina is weak and he needed to conserve chakra more than anyone else. But I am thinking this is something unique to Madara. As you know each MS Uchiha has something they specialize in beyond the other members of their clan.

Itachi-Sharingan Genjutsu (Tsukuyomi, Koto Amatsukami, Izanagi, Iganami)
Obito-Kamui
Sasuke-Amateratsu (Enton jutsu)
Madara-Susanoo (Perfect Susanoo)

I think since Madara has mastered Susanoo past the others he is able to use it without possessing the MS, EMS, or Rinnegan. He is just on that level I suppose. just a theory though.

Well, with all honesty that wouldn't be possible with 3 tomoe sharingan. The reason for this is simply because when a certain type of chakra goes through the said persons brain, it creates a change in that persons sharingan. "The eye that reflects feelings".


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Here's a diagram of the eye, with the optic nerve. If you take the eye out of it's socket the optic nerve will still remain. The chakra is affecting the nerve and as a result is reflected through the eye. Although the eye has chakra in it as well which also helps Uchiha and Non-Uchiha alike to acquire a specific type of power when it's reattached/attached to the optic nerve.
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Hope this explanation helps clear some things up.
 
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