[Spoilers] Why Madara is able to break logic

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I thought if you transplant a new eye it takes a long time?
Well, you can throw that out of the window aswell, so funny how Kishimoto doesn't even care himself about the rules he makes in his manga... like for example: Using too much chakra can make you run out of chakra, that concept also doesn't exist anymore.
 

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I thought if you transplant a new eye it takes a long time?
Well, you can throw that out of the window aswell, so funny how Kishimoto doesn't even care himself about the rules he makes in his manga... like for example: Using too much chakra can make you run out of chakra, that concept also doesn't exist anymore.

He has hashirama's instant healing ability.. also when kakashi got his eye implanted he could basically fight immediately.. when sasuke got itachi's eyes implanted, maybe it took a while to adapt to his eyes and the creation of the EMS proces.. madara is just implanting his own eyes.
And all shinobi have kurama's chakra, kurama ran out of chakra before, the rest of the people are edo tensei.
 

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2. hashirama's instant healing stuff.. forgot about that?
3. see my post above.
2- Not good enough elaborate on it.
use your brain, like madara does and you got proof..
for the rest see the second to last post of me above.

I saw your post and if that's the case then why does susano'o does severe damage to your eyes if it doesn't use your eyes?? If you can use susano'o without your eyes then that would defeat the whole purpose of being in pain after using susano'o everytime sasuke used it his eyes was bloody and he was in pain. Stop using real life mythology as proof why don't YOU USE your brain and use actual manga proof with scans
 

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2- Not good enough elaborate on it.
Why not?


I saw your post and if that's the case then why does susano'o does severe damage to your eyes if it doesn't use your eyes?? If you can use susano'o without your eyes then that would defeat the whole purpose of being in pain after using susano'o everytime sasuke used it his eyes was bloody and he was in pain. Stop using real life mythology as proof why don't YOU USE your brain and use actual manga proof with scans

His eyes weren't bloody as far as i can remember, but he did get blind of it losing all his MS abilities, the difference is that we're talking EMS here.
There's no manga scan explaining that, but that's why i said use your brain, cause logic isn't thrown away in this case.

I also still like fear's theory of remote access like kakashi and obito's vision through each others eyes.
 
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hahaha.... i think the answer is simple....hope some of you open your hearts to accepts this....

IS KISHI FAULT!!!

lately, kishi just make that as he pleased.... because he is the maker... he doesn't needs to follow rules... which obviously he created it in the first place... and with the situations getting more tense... he didn't pay attentions at all to those facts that all of you argued... no logics involved here...

so just read it... and don't think about logic anymore... because kishi doesn't care anymore....

sorry...
 

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Madara should have died here, there is no doubt.

If Shukako could hurt his Sage-moded body and he's the weakest of all Bijuu, then a combined attack with all of them (considering Kurama was part of that attack and he's stronger than all the other Bijuu combined), Madara should have lost there, instantly. There is absolutely no question about it.

He shouldn't have been able to summon Susanoo either. It requires 2 eyes to unlock their full potential, and he doesn't even have one alone. It's been stated before:

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I'm pretty sure either Obito or Sasuke also stated it required both eyes to activate the Susanoo, but I forgot where, so if someone knows the exact chapter feel free to share.


And plucking the Rinnegan into his eye socket like it was lego, just makes me wanna vomit.


Now the real question... why didn't he die? Because it would be anticlimatic. Kishimoto ****er up. He wrote the story in such a way that now he's either forced to make it end in an anticlimatic way, or he's forced to break the logic he established himself and pull more of this bullshit out of his ass.

There you go, questions answered.

I'm ok with your complaints.

But he survived thanks to Senju DNA, he now got a strong body to wield that kind of damage :| that's no big mystery.
 

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Pple shud stop trying to explain and justify maadaras use of soosano without eyes becos there is no explanation otherr than it being bs. If you can use it without eyes then how come the users always activate their ms when usin it? Why waste tym activatin your ms when u can simply use it without it? If mayb madara did it wit let's say a 3t it mught have been digestable but the dudes has NO EYES! Whatsoever. Sasuke lost his soosano once his vision started detiorating. Honestly its Bs
 

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Pple shud stop trying to explain and justify maadaras use of soosano without eyes becos there is no explanation otherr than it being bs. If you can use it without eyes then how come the users always activate their ms when usin it? Why waste tym activatin your ms when u can simply use it without it? If mayb madara did it wit let's say a 3t it mught have been digestable but the dudes has NO EYES! Whatsoever. Sasuke lost his soosano once his vision started detiorating. Honestly its Bs

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We have a blind Itachi using Susano'o.

We are not justifying things because we want, but because there have been ocasions where these things happened similary.

Oh well, by Occam Razor you could just say Naruto is BS, but that's just a childish way to avoid logic, avoid creating intelligent and constructive criticism, avoid doing some reasoning and of course... having some fun getting feed for your own egos at the expense of Kishimoto's fame.

That's ok.
 
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What does Itachi activating Susano'o without sharingan have anything to do with what Madara did?

Itachi still physically has his eyes. They are still in their sockets. People are arguing that MS is required for activating Susano'o, and clearly Itachi is not using MS to activate susano'o here. But that is not the issue here.

Madara has no eyes. They are literally not in his head. No physical contact.

I don't care what people are trying to justify this with:
MS activates susano'o, not required
Brain remembers how to use Susano'o
Madara chakra control is high enough to use susano'o

I don't care about any of that.
The manga has never hinted that Susano'o can be used without at least having your sharingan eyes in their friggin sockets.

Absorbing chakra has been clearly demonstrated without rinnegan, and I have no doubts that Madara has picked up that ability. It was foreshadowed that Madara could break Edo long before it happened.

This is just straight bullsh**.
 
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Madara, has awakened a new power never before seen in Naruto history!! We are witnessing this "un-logical" power, we can't comprehend Madara yet because even now he's just learning it himself, I'm sure theirs more to come. Madara is not a god but he's a demi god ;b haha
 
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