[Spoilers] Why Madara is able to break logic

[Armathyx]

Madara should have died here, there is no doubt.

If Shukako could hurt his Sage-moded body and he's the weakest of all Bijuu, then a combined attack with all of them (considering Kurama was part of that attack and he's stronger than all the other Bijuu combined), Madara should have lost there, instantly. There is absolutely no question about it.

He shouldn't have been able to summon Susanoo either. It requires 2 eyes to unlock their full potential, and he doesn't even have one alone. It's been stated before:

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I'm pretty sure either Obito or Sasuke also stated it required both eyes to activate the Susanoo, but I forgot where, so if someone knows the exact chapter feel free to share.


And plucking the Rinnegan into his eye socket like it was lego, just makes me wanna vomit.


Now the real question... why didn't he die? Because it would be anticlimatic. Kishimoto ****er up. He wrote the story in such a way that now he's either forced to make it end in an anticlimatic way, or he's forced to break the logic he established himself and pull more of this bullshit out of his ass.

There you go, questions answered.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Madara Activated Susanoo thru Black Zetsu.
That's what Iam pondering on?

 

[ChiefHermit]

naaah
it's just cause madara is BOSSSS

 

[Gunther]

Kishi did it on purpose . Madara is not stupid , probably he just had some fun . He's much weaker , probably not able to withdraw perfect susanoo without eyes but still arogant , though . If it goes about susanoo , he gained sh*t load of experience through all this years and activated rinnegan after all . Probably chakra controll mastah :devil: Maybe piece of Senju helped ? And still , you need both of them to acknowledge susanoo at first .

 

[Misconception]

Dat undercover Madara wank...

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

I alwasy laugh when people say Kurama is stronger than all the other bijus combined.It's obviously Bull&*%$, but they keep saying it as if it's fact.

 

[Lay]

I alwasy laugh when people say Kurama is stronger than all the other bijus combined.It's obviously Bull&*%$, but they keep saying it as if it's fact.

I believe is true. Don't forget Naruto has only half of it and considering how he gave everyone on the battle field Kurama's chakra.

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

Susanoo is not a doujutsu.. amaterasu, requires an eye, tsukuyomi requires an eye, susanoo is born when you unlock the mangekyou with both eyes. it's a proces in the brain. if you lose your eyes after that susanoo remains.

And he can put his rinnegan in like it's lego because of his automatic hashirama healing stuff

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

Awakening or activating susanoo is one thing and being able to use it is something else

i will make a full explanation thread abt it later but here's the summary : MS awakens susannoo "with both eyes obviously" , which is the materialization of the user's chakra in the shape of a warrior, so knowing how to use susanoo is done with the ms , but after awakening it you can use susanoo even if you're blind. ( itachi's case ) or with no eyes at all (madara's case ) Sharingan reveals to you the path to guide your chakra out of your body , that's how you can do it alone after since.

in sasuke's case we remember that when he started to become blind susanno went off but actually it wasn't out of blindness but out of tire, the proof : he activated susanoo with the "eye bands on his eyes" ( < that's yodawg there :') lol ) when he implanted itachi's
in my thread the arguments above will be approved by manga scans , until then, cheers

 

[themuna]

Edit: This is a response to the comments about Kurama being more powerful than other bijuu combined

I agree that it may not be fact but it could also be true.

To play devil's advocate:
1. Naruto and Kurama matched a combined TBB from 5 other bijuu using only the Yang half of it's chakra
2. Having the 9 tails alone gave Konoha an advantage over all the other villages

To your point:
1. Those bijuu may have been weaker without a hosts and could not use their full potential.

 

[themuna]

Awakening or activating susanoo is one thing and being able to use it is something else

i will make a full explanation thread abt it later but here's the summary : MS awakens susannoo "with both eyes obviously" , which is the materialization of the user's chakra in the shape of a warrior, so knowing how to use susanoo is done with the ms , but after awakening it you can use susanoo even if you're blind. ( itachi's case ) or with no eyes at all (madara's case ) Sharingan reveals to you the path to guide your chakra out of your body , that's how you can do it alone after since.

in sasuke's case we remember that when he started to become blind susanno went off but actually it wasn't out of blindness but out of tire, the proof : he activated susanoo with the "eye bands on his eyes" ( < that's yodawg there :') lol ) when he implanted itachi's
in my thread the arguments above will be approved by manga scans , until then, cheers

What is all this based on?

 

[FemmeFatale]

Well I proves that brute force can break though sand, and that was a weak sasunoo

 

[Armathyx]

Susanoo is not a doujutsu.. amaterasu, requires an eye, tsukuyomi requires an eye, susanoo is born when you unlock the mangekyou with both eyes. it's a proces in the brain. if you lose your eyes after that susanoo remains.

And he can put his rinnegan in like it's lego because of his automatic hashirama healing stuff

Evidence?

Why do you people try to justify Kishi's mistakes? Manga is art, it needs to be critiscised.

 

[ITACHItheINVINCIBLE7]

previously madara used susanoo with rinnegan active and so can use it with no eyes but may be not to full potential of susano because susano is unlocked by two ms afterward it can be used even without eyes that exactly happend

 

[oShux]

Madara should have died here, there is no doubt.

If Shukako could hurt his Sage-moded body and he's the weakest of all Bijuu, then a combined attack with all of them (considering Kurama was part of that attack and he's stronger than all the other Bijuu combined), Madara should have lost there, instantly. There is absolutely no question about it.

He shouldn't have been able to summon Susanoo either. It requires 2 eyes to unlock their full potential, and he doesn't even have one alone. It's been stated before:

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I'm pretty sure either Obito or Sasuke also stated it required both eyes to activate the Susanoo, but I forgot where, so if someone knows the exact chapter feel free to share.


And plucking the Rinnegan into his eye socket like it was lego, just makes me wanna vomit.


Now the real question... why didn't he die? Because it would be anticlimatic. Kishimoto ****er up. He wrote the story in such a way that now he's either forced to make it end in an anticlimatic way, or he's forced to break the logic he established himself and pull more of this bullshit out of his ass.

There you go, questions answered.

1- I thought the same thing he should've f*cking died
2- Putting the rinnegan in his eye like that?

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The eyes are connected to the brain you can't just put them in your eye sockets and hope they'll work that's just bull shit.
3- How the f*ck did he use susano'o?

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

What is all this based on?

susanoo isn't a dojutsu.. in japanese mythology amaterasu was born out of the left eye and tsukuyomi out of the right eye. and susanoo was born out of the nose..

When you use amaterasu it is casted from the eye, with tsukuyomi you need to look in the eye..
susanoo isn't a doujutsu, when you awaken mangekyou a proces happens in the brain. you need both eyes to awaken susanoo, not to use it.

 

[oShux]

Awakening or activating susanoo is one thing and being able to use it is something else

i will make a full explanation thread abt it later but here's the summary : MS awakens susannoo "with both eyes obviously" , which is the materialization of the user's chakra in the shape of a warrior, so knowing how to use susanoo is done with the ms , but after awakening it you can use susanoo even if you're blind. ( itachi's case ) or with no eyes at all (madara's case ) Sharingan reveals to you the path to guide your chakra out of your body , that's how you can do it alone after since.

in sasuke's case we remember that when he started to become blind susanno went off but actually it wasn't out of blindness but out of tire, the proof : he activated susanoo with the "eye bands on his eyes" ( < that's yodawg there :') lol ) when he implanted itachi's
in my thread the arguments above will be approved by manga scans , until then, cheers

Itachi never went blind his eye sight was just shit. We saw Sasuke's body from Itachi's point of view and he wasn't blind everything was just blurry. That one flaw has destroyed your whole fcking theory.

And the sasuke part made no fcking sense at all. Gtfo

 

[oShux]

susanoo isn't a dojutsu.. in japanese mythology amaterasu was born out of the left eye and tsukuyomi out of the right eye. and susanoo was born out of the nose..

When you use amaterasu it is casted from the eye, with tsukuyomi you need to look in the eye..
susanoo isn't a doujutsu, when you awaken mangekyou a proces happens in the brain. you need both eyes to awaken susanoo, not to use it.

Proof or stfu

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

1- I thought the same thing he should've f*cking died
2- Putting the rinnegan in his eye like that?

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The eyes are connected to the brain you can't just put them in your eye sockets and hope they'll work that's just bull shit.
3- How the f*ck did he use susano'o?

1. ...
2. hashirama's instant healing stuff.. forgot about that?
3. see my post above.

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

Proof or stfu

use your brain, like madara does and you got proof..
for the rest see the second to last post of me above.