Madara's ideology is wrong.

[Tera Path]

Madara has stated that ''if 2 opposing forces co-operate, true peace can be found''.
This is true, and can happen, you can easily apply this in real life.

Now, Madara has his own interpretation of this, by making one side get power from the other, unwillingly, which is wrong.
Don't get it?
Say the US and Russia are fighting again...... now...... what would be true peace?
1. If the US took all of Russia militia and weapons.
or
2. The US and Russia co-operate, become sincere allies and help each other out.

In this case, option 2 is better, stronger and a smarter idea.

This is why Madara is bound to fail (yeah yeah he's the enemy of course he's gonna fail), and Sasuke and Naruto (2 opposing forces coming together) will not fail.

 

[Guntah]

Its kind of expected since he is the bad guy....

 

[HiddenSound]

He's under the impression that might makes right.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It's not about which ideal is better or stronger. Both scenarios mean peace, and Madara went for the one that was more realistic
Even after the Uchiha tries to cooperate with the Senju and Konoha, it still boiled down to one group being forced to supress then eliminate the other. Ironically, Hashi's method failed until it turned into Madara's method.

 

[thunderthehybrid]

God + Satan = True Happiness.

 

[Tera Path]

Its kind of expected since he is the bad guy....

That's exactly what i said in my thread.

I wonder why you bother post something that has already been mentioned.

God + Satan = True Happiness.

If Satan and God were real people i would firmly accept this.

Satan hasn't ever done anything bad to the human race, all he did was show humans the bad side of humanity, a side where God was keeping them away from.

If Satan and God understood eachother the entire universe would change into a near-perfect race, aside from the Atheists and religious people that disagree with eachother.

 

[Joon]

He's under the impression that might makes right.

Those Uciha's and their Clan ancestor, elder son of Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki.

 

[3MESSIAH]

It's not about which ideal is better or stronger. Both scenarios mean peace, and Madara went for the one that was more realistic
Even after the Uchiha tries to cooperate with the Senju and Konoha, it still boiled down to one group being forced to supress then eliminate the other. Ironically, Hashi's method failed until it turned into Madara's method.

yeah,neither of these scenarios lead to peace....

IMO peace is more of a state of mind than an actual thing in existence.... the only way true world peace can be obtained is not by any scenario,but with finding a peace within you...once every human achieves his inner peace there can no longer be any war.

problem is,even if 99% of people achieve this,the 1% remaining will still thrust the world into war and chaos because of their greed,hatred and pain.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

If you're trying to use this in real life you need to log out now :|

"Power is not will, it is psychically the phenomenon of making things happen."

 

[Erebus]

It's all the fault of SO6P, he should have just had one son

 

[Tera Path]

yeah,neither of these scenarios lead to peace....

That's because the 2 forces didn't FULLY co-operate.

Madara tried, Hashirama did.

But, Madara and Hashirama couldn't both force there will and ideology unto their clansmen, siblings and villagers.
That had to be something that they themselves had to accept, but of course that didn't happen, so Madara and Obito truly wanted to force everything upon them through Genjutsu.

If you're trying to use this in real life you need to log out now :|

"Power is not will, it is psychically the phenomenon of making things happen."

I can apply this to real life.

Madara sucked Hashirama of everything he has, making him into something ''combined''.
Having things that both forces have, other than their will.
And without sufficient power or political recognition, your will is nothing.
But in this case, Hashirama is already known, only he has no power, so his will still means something.

It's all the fault of SO6P, he should have just had one son

As much as i agree with this, if this happend we would have no Naruto manga or anime :l

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

yeah,neither of these scenarios lead to peace....

Peace is a nonexistent fairy tale. In a time of strife people want peace, in a time of peace people start war.

 

[Joon]

It's not about which ideal is better or stronger. Both scenarios mean peace, and Madara went for the one that was more realistic
Even after the Uchiha tries to cooperate with the Senju and Konoha, it still boiled down to one group being forced to supress then eliminate the other. Ironically, Hashi's method failed until it turned into Madara's method.

Consequences (or Cons) to achieving Peace. Both ideal they are.

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[Bronze]

What post 9 said.

 

[msbishop92]

Naruto & Sasuke's collaboration will end up showing Madara that his interpretation of unification of the two powers was incorrect. Their combination will show Madara that he interpreted the tablet wrong and that he chose the wrong path. The tablet @ Naraka Shrine is likely something that Rikudou left behind for his sons, but we know how that story goes. We know Rikudou was a man of peace, so I'm sure he meant to suggest that his sons were to work together rather than creating a re-occuring-decenant battle between Senju & Uchiha.

 

[Joon]

What post 9 said.

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Not really. #13 (>_>)

 

[Tera Path]

Peace is a nonexistent fairy tale. In a time of strife people want peace, in a time of peace people start war.

I agree with this so much~

Peace is but a fantasy, that people wish for, yet they will not co-operate or accept others or their ideas.
Maybe in this multi-verse we live in, there will be one planet we will discover who has truly reached and accepted peace.
But for now, we live in a world where people have peace with weapons, atleast.... for now.

yeah,neither of these scenarios lead to peace....

IMO peace is more of a state of mind than an actual thing in existence.... the only way true world peace can be obtained is not by any scenario,but with finding a peace within you...once every human achieves his inner peace there can no longer be any war.

problem is,even if 99% of people achieve this,the 1% remaining will still thrust the world into war and chaos because of their greed,hatred and pain.

*cough* hilter *cough* slavery *cough* democracy *cough* communism *cough*

We can go on with this 1% so much it will start looking like the 99% instead.
But we can't stop it honestly, there is no such thing as having a race with perfect beings, sadly no one can find peace unless we are talking about peace at anarchy.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Peace in real life can never exist and those who believe so are either stupid, hopeful or just too nice well guess what kids as blade puts it the world isn't nice.

 

[Joon]

I agree with this so much~

Peace is but a fantasy, that people wish for, yet they will not co-operate or accept others or there ideas.
Maybe in this multi-verse we live in, there will be one planet we will discover who has truly reached and accepted peace.
But for now, we live in a world where people have peace with weapons, atleast.... for now.


*cough* hilter *cough* slavery *cough* democracy *cough* democracy *cough*

We can go on with this 1% so much it will start looking like the 99% instead.

Peace is an idea which none of you can accept as reality; looking at as a dream. You are all hopeless. You see what I did there.

Peace in real life can never exist and those who believe so are either stupid, hopeful or just too nice well guess what kids as blade puts it the world isn't nice.

You all are depressing. Be positive.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Also I completely understand madaras intentions for what he is doing and is some respects I agree with him but not his methods