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-What? hashirama answered sasuke question, he didnt make him do nothing
-in the manga, around the time sasuke beat itachi
-obito was afraid to show his kamui to itachi, obito said itachi would have solo'd him if he did.





i didnt say he did. or are you going to say i did.
- hashirama made him change to good
- he never knew it was obito, after edo nagato was defeated itachi told naruto to take care of madara (obito)
 

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Honestly Minato has no counter for Itachi, Minato is very skilled but Itachi has to much on Minato, then there's always the option of Itachi using Izanami.
Izanami if they can acknowledge the real results of their actions and in doing so, accept their fate. which means if they have already accepted their fate, they cannot be placed under izanami, and well basically, I think izanami would be ineffective against someone like madara.
 

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Izanami if they can acknowledge the real results of their actions and in doing so, accept their fate. which means if they have already accepted their fate, they cannot be placed under izanami, and well basically, I think izanami would be ineffective against someone like madara.
Izanami is still a genjutsu that traps you in it for as long as possible till you accept your actions or figure out you're in a loop of genjutsu . Even if you only stay in Izanami for 1 or 2 seconds , Itachi could walk up to you and cut your head off.
 

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Izanami is still a genjutsu that traps you in it for as long as possible till you accept your actions or figure out you're in a loop of genjutsu . Even if you only stay in Izanami for 1 or 2 seconds , Itachi could walk up to you and cut your head off.
That's if he can even capture Minato in Izanami, Minato doesn't seem the type to be in denial about his actions or his fate.
 

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That's if he can even capture Minato in Izanami, Minato doesn't seem the type to be in denial about his actions or his fate.
He can if he doesn't die while he is trying to perform it. Its a loop of actions they perform together recorded by the sharingan. It still works as a genjutsu with or without the target accepting himself or not. Recently we've seen Minato having doubts about his past actions when it came to Obito and Naruto and Kushina and Rin's lives. He finally accepted it , but he did show regret for things he couldn't change.
 

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He can if he doesn't die while he is trying to perform it. Its a loop of actions they perform together recorded by the sharingan. It still works as a genjutsu with or without the target accepting himself or not. Recently we've seen Minato having doubts about his past actions when it came to Obito and Naruto and Kushina and Rin's lives. He finally accepted it , but he did show regret for things he couldn't change.
That's a pretty big if.
Also you cannot be placed under a genjutsu to which you already have achieved the way of breaking the loop. There is a difference between regretting something, and denying reality.
 

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That's a pretty big if.
Also you cannot be placed under a genjutsu to which you already have achieved the way of breaking the loop. There is a difference between regretting something, and denying reality.
He doesn't know how to break it , so to him its a loop of actions he and Itachi shared which were recorded with Itachi's sharingan so once Itachi plays Izanami for Minato, Minato will be reliving it over from point A to point C and back to point A again. Before he makes it back to point A , Itachi can cut Minato's head off. Izanami is a real genjutsu and Minato's body will be sitting in one spot while his mind is in a genjutsu. Itachi isn't in the genjutsu so he can chop off Minato's head. Before Minato even watches the complete loop 1 time, Itachi can kill him by then.
 

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He doesn't know how to break it , so to him its a loop of actions he and Itachi shared which were recorded with Itachi's sharingan so once Itachi plays Izanami for Minato, Minato will be reliving it over from point A to point C and back to point A again. Before he makes it back to point A , Itachi can cut Minato's head off. Izanami is a real genjutsu and Minato's body will be sitting in one spot while his mind is in a genjutsu. Itachi isn't in the genjutsu so he can chop off Minato's head. Before Minato even watches the complete loop 1 time, Itachi can kill him by then.
But the key to releasing Izanami is to accept your reality, if you already accept reality, then you hold the key to the release, and therefore cannot be locked in it.
 

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Itachi is stronger

He simply has a much wider & more versatile moveset & not only that but his speed is comparable to minato's base speed.

Not to mention sharingan precog which can track & predict the trajectory of the kunai that minato throws.

The only thing that minato has going for him is an s/t barrier but even then its a double edged sword because Itachi can easily utilize one of his genjutsu feints to trick minato into warping the wrong thing.
 
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