1. If your bringing Orochimaru stabs as an example, there you can see it was only nearly her heart that was stabbed not her actual heart. But reguarless yes, I think she can heal from it even if it did. But for her to properly heal her heart from actual being stab is to remove the stake. Since the curse leaves the stake there, she can't pull it out, thus leaving a hole in her heart. She is not fighting with a hole in her heart thats constantly trying to regenerate back, to properly pump her blood. Thus ends it[You must be registered for see links]
Proof that she didn't have much chaka. She she punch Oro right after picking up Bunta's weapon. At the end of the day or in your context, that "last" of her chakra didn't smash Oro's jaw. If you imply if she had full chakra doing the same hit, your going to need proof that it will blow up Oro's head.
2. Applying that crushing and cutting is merely trolling me behind your frustration. Indeed that they keep their durability, but your comparisons do not work here. Since Hidan does not have Madara's durability. Add Madara in Hidan's situation to what he has taken. Meaning how will Madara body deal with explosions and how will he deal with Kakuzu's Wind Release.
I can also post Sakura, stronger punch, knocking out a Juubi Minion: So you see its body mutilate?[You must be registered for see links][You must be registered for see links][You must be registered for see links][You must be registered for see links] Why wasn't it?
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- If there is no intel, this applies for both sides, this means Hidan doesn't know about her jutsu and that he would remove the stake from his body once he stabbed it.
Giving her the chance to heal and counter his next move.
- Hidan would never attack to her heart first, in the No-Intel scenario, he is arrogant and immature in battle, so i don't think he would try to kill her in the first chance he get. The same way he didn't in vs Azuma:
He was outnumbered and was fighting a real strong shinobi, and he decided to play with him.You must be registered for see images- Even if he attacked her heart, and decided not to remove the stake, Tsunade could figure out how his jutsu work and nullify it by ruining the ritual's seal in the floor:
Tsunade has 5 in intelligence, just like Shikamaru in the third Databook, this doesn't mean she is the expert tactician Shikamaru is, but with all the commentary Hidan provide in Battle, his moves, the wounds, the blood he drank from her, the seal in the floor, is not that hard to figure out anyway...You must be registered for see images
Once the seal in the floor is destroyed, the stake is removed from Tsunade's body, allowing her to heal, and now she would do what it takes to prevent him from doing it again.You must be registered for see imagesYou must be registered for see images
Tsunade can move while she in pierced, at a high cost, but enough time to break the seal and heal properly, you proved it in your post:
You must be registered for see imagesYou must be registered for see images- I already provided proof she ran out of chakra:
The last time she used chakra was when she punched Oro, right?You must be registered for see imagesYou must be registered for see images
Since the next thing that happened was the change of her appearance, the energy left was just too little to keep looks. And this fits perfectly with her commentary in the war:
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2) Madara will deal with explosions just like Hidan did, blowing away into pieces, the only difference is that Madara wouldn't be able to move any of the extremities spread all over the rocks.
If the hurricane wasn't meant to crush or cut someones body, Hidan is safe from it, as long as he don't lose any of his limbs, there is no serious difference to a perfectly healed Hidan, in battle. Besides, that jutsu wasn't lethal, if it was Kakashi wouldn't have escaped from it.
And finally, i don't think that hurricane could mutilate half of someone's body, like Tsunade did, so the comparisons you are making are not well founded:
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3) Actually, there is not only 1, but 2 reasons why Sakura couldn't mutilate a Min-Bijuu with her fist, like Tsunade did with Madara's clone:
- Sakura hasn't released her seal yet, so this means by the time she punched the monster, all the chakra stored in her forehead's seal was still there, intact. The power of her blow is stronger than usual because she doesn't have to worry about storing chakra now the seal is finished, so all her actual chakra, the one that naturally flow in her body, can be used without being limited, handicapped by the storing process she was for 3 years.
"...Now i can finally release my full power!"You must be registered for see images
When she release chakra from the seal, her forehead looks like this:
So she hadn't released it yet, not when she punched the monster, meaning she didn't use chakra from the seal in her fist, unlike Tsunade when she mutilated Madara.You must be registered for see images- Mini-bijus are part of the Juubi, so they have the durability of a Bijuu. If your are trying to compare Madara's or a regular human body's durability with a Bijuu's body, i won't dedicate you a single word more.
100% countered and proved with manga scans.
You still didn't prove Hidan's body is different from others, in terms of endurance and durability, so your whole point depends of you and your "Nature Rules", and that is not a strong back up in my opinion, or anyone's but yours, apparently.
Mini-bijus are part of the Juubi, so they have the durability of a Bijuu. If your are trying to compare Madara's or a regular human body's durability with a Bijuu's body, i won't dedicate you a single word more.
1) Do you really think your break my argument? I gave you more than one possibility:1.) Thank you for breaking this down, Hidan's character. But you have lost one factor here. Hidan makes sure that the character that is cursed is finished off after toying with their deaths, which Shikimaru stopped from happening the first time[You must be registered for see links][You must be registered for see links]. So in the end your scenario is not working. Tsunade is force to use her healing jutsu or else she dies. Attempting to do anything suspicious will result for him stabbing body parts, receding her attacks. And if she does use it Hidan will notice why she didn't die. Thus, he will leave the stake in his heart[You must be registered for see links] Hoping that she will.
1a.) Finally can we conclude that Orochimaru's body was able to handle her monstrous strength in the face, with the last chakra she had left. We know in the manga, even without using chakra enhance strength, due to her linage, she already has monstrous strength by default. So normal strength+chakra enhance strength= no mutilate for Oro.
2. Your doing it again, discrediting feats shown to prove your point from being valid... Now your saying that Madara can tank an explosion with his body. Really? Now I have no clue what scenario you are explaining, with Madara and Hidan comparison. So lets break it down again. Madara is alive: What happens if this jutsu explodes on Madara(You must be registered for see linkstoYou must be registered for see links). Don't BS, Madara either dies from the explosion or unable to move. What happens if Madara take a paper tank explosion(You must be registered for see linkstoYou must be registered for see links). Don't BS, Madara dies or can no longer do anything. If you are planing on discrediting explosive tags or Asuma's, in general, keep in mind those things were able to crippled Nagato for the rest of his life. And even Deidara's C1 was able to kill characters, fodder or not. Also, notice how Hidan was worried about Kakuzu (last scan), he though Kakuzu would of gotten injured from the explosion. What Kakuzu has done to successful counter the explosion was hardening his body. What Hidan use was strictly his immortal body.
2a.) Once again your discrediting Hidan feat that enable him to tank the wind. The wind jutsu had already displayed its feat, the wind jutsu decimated all theYou must be registered for see links(with dwarfs these character [You must be registered for see links]). The description of the jutsu states this also[You must be registered for see links]. Saying Kakashi dodged it, is contradicting your statement that it isn't lethal. And once again discrediting feats. The fact remains that the jutsu decimated dwarfing trees and the targets who weren't hit from the attack were being pushed by from the wind. The jutsu is lethal, period. Hidan took it head on, period. Hidan's body is still in tact, period. The jutsu is more dangerous then explosions, period. If any jutsu or physical attack is not having any support to separating Hidan's body, any of those strikes are not working, as the manga displayed.
3. So now you want to take something out of context? I already broke this down. She punch the monster twice, fact. The first time wasn't at her full, fact[You must be registered for see links]. As soon as he gain the Yin forehead[You must be registered for see links], she was ready to show her full power which was that second punch[You must be registered for see links]<--Look at your own scan you post she swung again. Now turn to the next page[You must be registered for see links]<--here, the monster continuously began to travel from the force of that punch. No mutilate once again.
(Right durability as a bijuu when Kohnonha 11 was raping them)
Exactly where I was heading. You continuously try to discredit feats from Hidan, saying that he is normal. The fact remain his body is not normal. The manga only shown him vulnerable to anything that can slice him up, fact. All the credits of him tanking anything that should of destroy, break down, etc, is you trying to downgrade them/discredit the feat. The fact remains you cannot use ABC logic. Example, Tsunade punch Oro with her last bit of chakra. Oro survive. But Oro almost died to a "butter knife", that force him to find a new body[You must be registered for see links][You must be registered for see links][You must be registered for see links]. Therefore the damage of the knife should be as powerful as Tsunade's last bit of chakra punch. You cannot use this logic.
Hidan's body is indeed abnormal, making only vulnerable to an attack that can slice up his body. Super strength does not make it any different from slicing his body apart, by just punching him, as shown in the manga (with anyone via Oro or anything via Juubi-Minion whos body is abnormal).
So yes, I said Madara would die if the explosions caught him like they did to Hidan. The only difference that I point out was that Madara's extremities spread all over the floor wouldn't move, unlike Hidan's.Madara will deal with explosions just like Hidan did, blowing away into pieces, the only difference is that Madara wouldn't be able to move any of the extremities spread all over the rocks.
1.)The whole purpose was arguing what would happen if Hidan did get blood from Tsunade. I already told you I am not debating this between these characters. I have done this plenty of times in the past it really gets repetitive and boring. The premise was all there was, don't get the wrong idea here.
2.)Read your second point. You just said Hidan will die from an explosion, which at this point, this argument (The whole purpose of me posting here) concludes here.
3.)Once again discrediting Hidan's feat of taking the wind attack, claiming he dodged it, which Ino stated he was taking advantage of his immortality. Then taking Choiji and Shikimaru's position of the wind attack out of context to prove yourself right, when they were behind the blast.
4.)Now making descriptions up and out of context to try and prove yourself right yet again (Sakura situation).
So this concludes my post for this thread. If you feel like you won, congrats.
Really? This somehow means Hidan died?? I thought it meant that Madara would blow into pieces just like Hidan did if he had been trapped with paper bombs, but with the difference that Madara hadn't been able to move or talk (he would be dead), unlike Hidan, since he was able to talk after the explosion dismembered him.So yes, I said Madara would die if the explosions caught him like they did to Hidan. The only difference that I point out was that Madara's extremities spread all over the floor wouldn't move, unlike Hidan's.
I said that before him!!I think End of Days soloed this thread. Even a shuriken was able to damage Hidan's super-durable body. Tsunade's kick would completely obliterate Hidan's skull.
And nice posts, Keimil. =D

Tsunade's kick would completely obliterate Hidan's skull.
like it did to Oro and many other characters besides a wood clone?
- That punch was without using the Yin seal, or without using chakra.
- Apparently the wood clones are quite durable. Madara couldn't bisect Hashirama's wood clone with the Susanoo sword.
Not to mention the clone still wore Madara's armor, which was strong enough to protect him from the amaterasu for a few seconds.
Nahhh no Yin [Pretty sure the punch to Orochimaru was in fact during the time she used the yin-seal ._.
Nahhh no Yin [You must be registered for see links].
Don't know what your link says as yours never work butt....
You must be registered for see linksShe clearly activated the seal before the battle began and then ****s the shit out of oro,You must be registered for see links
My Favs shit on her as well AC my man
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