[Discussion] Hopes on Crocodile and Daz Bones?

[24 12 11 to troll]

We know they've gone to the New World and are both very popular characters. So what expectations do you hold for them when they're reintroduced?

For me:
Crocodile:

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-He has high level Busoshoku Haki capabilities. Maybe matching that of Vergos
-He has high level Kenbushoku Haki capabilities. Maybe matching that of Sanjis (although we haven't seen much of Sanjis haki)
-He will have his own pirate crew called the either the Gold Hook Pirates or the Sand Pirates and he will have a bounty of between 350 million to 400 million
-He will be more efficient at absorbing water, so efficient that fighting with water is completely ineffective
-He is plotting the downfall of one of the Yonkou, the targetted Yonkou will be a shared target with the Strawhats
-He is reintroduced in the Elbaf Arc (in Little Garden his subordinates messed with Dorry and Broggy's duel, so this would be quite interesting to see)
-It is revealed that Ivankov turned him into a Man to give him extra power, as beforehand (while s/he was a Pirate Rookie who didn't know any better) s/he was completely fodderized by Whitebeard
-His real name is revealed to be Croco D. Ile

Daz Bones

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-He learns Busoshoku Haki to a similar caliber as Crocodile does
-He learns Kenbushoku Haki to a similar caliber as Crocodile does
-He is Crocodiles first mate, with a bounty between 250 million and 300 million
-He can use air blades
--He is reintroduced in the Elbaf Arc (in Little Garden Crocodiles subordinates messed with Dorry and Broggy's duel, so this would be quite interesting to see)

 

[David1996]

Not looking forward to see them.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Not looking forward to see them.

Why's that the case?

 

[chad062388]

Like to see what new things they've learned.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Like to see what new things they've learned.

Such as???

 

[Fireplay]

Crocodile: Good at CoA. He's so advanced in it that he can turn his sand black which adds some kind of properties to it. His CoA will hopefully be somewhere around Vergo's. His CoO will probably just be decent imo. He'll have a bounty of 330,000,000. He'll be somewher at mid-high VA level. I'd say he'll turn out to be stronger than Smoker but either slightly weaker or equal to Luffy. He'll be better at absorbing water. There will probably be a rumour that he drained a whole town worth of water in minutes (lol).

Daz Bones: Irrelevant.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Crocodile: Good at CoA. He's so advanced in it that he can turn his sand black which adds some kind of properties to it. His CoA will hopefully be somewhere around Vergo's. His CoO will probably just be decent imo. He'll have a bounty of 330,000,000. He'll be somewher at mid-high VA level. I'd say he'll turn out to be stronger than Smoker but either slightly weaker or equal to Luffy. He'll be better at absorbing water. There will probably be a rumour that he drained a whole town worth of water in minutes (lol).

Daz Bones: Irrelevant.

How is Daz irrelevant?

What kind of properties would Crocs sand gain other than strength? Maybe resistance to water, and increased moisture absorbing properties? I'd say is he would be equal to Luffy. As pre TS Crocodile was far stronger than Luffy. And Smoker IMO is Zoros equal. While Croc is Luffys equal.

 

[chad062388]

Such as???

Such as techs mostly, but who knows what else they might have when we see them again.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

End Series "Yonko"

Luffy, Law, Kidd, Crocodile


Crocodile

Crocodile being a woman: Nah. Not a fan. If so he should have stayed as Woman Crocodile because the female fan arts are gorgeous.

Croco D. Ile.... Very interesting but unlikely.


Power/abilities.

1. Better use of water draining. War of the best showed he had such attacks. Why Luffy suddenly beat them Idk.

2. CoA: Basic level of turning him and his sand black. Ability to let attacks phase like Aokiji.

3. CoO: Basic levels.

4. Going on CoA: Iron Sand

5. Secret: former revolutionary

6. Bounty around 500-600 million

He doesn't need much. Just re fitting him with Haki is all this badass needs.


Daz Bones

1. Slight Haki boosts.

2. Maybe some new moves involving blade play.

3. Bounty between 200-300 million

 

[Fireplay]

How is Daz irrelevant?

What kind of properties would Crocs sand gain other than strength? Maybe resistance to water, and increased moisture absorbing properties? I'd say is he would be equal to Luffy. As pre TS Crocodile was far stronger than Luffy. And Smoker IMO is Zoros equal. While Croc is Luffys equal.

Daz isn't irrelevant in the manga. He's just irrelevant in my viewpoint. Might aswell not show up at all. Couldn't care less what happens to that guy but that's just me.

Via CoA Croc's sand could gain resistance to water and could possibly get a form which seems like a mix of Vergo's Haki armor and Gaara's sand armor. He'll coat himself with sand and then harden it giving him an ultimate defence. He could possibly use this same method to bury his enemies alive. Back in arabasta he failed to bury Luffy. Imagine if he had first buried Luffy and then coated the sand Luffy was under with Haki making it pretty much impossible for Luffy to get out. I see alot of potential with CoA and with Crocodile there are alot of new things he could do. I think once we see him again his fighting style will be based on mixing CoA Haki with his sand.

Imagine Sables coated with Haki.

Croc will be OP.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

End Series "Yonko"

Luffy, Law, Kidd, Crocodile

Completely agree on this.

Crocodile

Crocodile being a woman: Nah. Not a fan. If so he should have stayed as Woman Crocodile because the female fan arts are gorgeous.

Croco D. Ile.... Very interesting but unlikely.


Power/abilities.

1. Better use of water draining. War of the best showed he had such attacks. Why Luffy suddenly beat them Idk.

2. CoA: Basic level of turning him and his sand black. Ability to let attacks phase like Aokiji.

3. CoO: Basic levels.

4. Going on CoA: Iron Sand

5. Secret: former revolutionary

6. Bounty around 500-600 million

He doesn't need much. Just re fitting him with Haki is all this badass needs.

I have a couple of issues... how does CoA make sand suddenly become Magnetic? And his bounty won't be that high.

Daz Bones

1. Slight Haki boosts.

2. Maybe some new moves involving blade play.

3. Bounty between 200-300 million

So pretty much what I said, right?

Daz isn't irrelevant in the manga. He's just irrelevant in my viewpoint. Might aswell not show up at all. Couldn't care less what happens to that guy but that's just me.

He's a pretty important character. EOS he could be a very powerful character. I'm talking Admiral Tier here, while Zoro would surpass the Admiral Tier.

Via CoA Croc's sand could gain resistance to water and could possibly get a form which seems like a mix of Vergo's Haki armor and Gaara's sand armor. He'll coat himself with sand and then harden it giving him an ultimate defence. He could possibly use this same method to bury his enemies alive. Back in arabasta he failed to bury Luffy. Imagine if he had first buried Luffy and then coated the sand Luffy was under with Haki making it pretty much impossible for Luffy to get out. I see alot of potential with CoA and with Crocodile there are alot of new things he could do. I think once we see him again his fighting style will be based on mixing CoA Haki with his sand.

I doubt Oda would pretty much copy Gaara from Naruto and therefore copy Kishi. Mixing his Sand with Haki is a given. His cutten power would be greatly superior. And possibly using Haki he could mold weapons or objects with Haki and hold the object together. Making a stronger defense and offense. But coating himself in Sand? He's already sand.

Imagine Sables coated with Haki.

Croc will be OP.

By this point he won't be OP. But he will be hella strong.

 

[David1996]

Why's that the case?

There are alot strong characters I wanna see in the NW, and maybe Oda will introduce us to even more stronger characters in the future (Like Chinjao). Am fine if they play a small role in the final war, but I don't wanna see them frequently.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

There are alot strong characters I wanna see in the NW, and maybe Oda will introduce us to even more stronger characters in the future (Like Chinjao). Am fine if they play a small role in the final war, but I don't wanna see them frequently.

I think Croc will be a Yonkou EOS or on a similar level. Of course more strong people will be introduced. Such as Kaidou. But that shouldn't stop him from reintroducing some pre TS characters.

 

[Fireplay]

I doubt Oda would pretty much copy Gaara from Naruto and therefore copy Kishi. Mixing his Sand with Haki is a given. His cutten power would be greatly superior. And possibly using Haki he could mold weapons or objects with Haki and hold the object together. Making a stronger defense and offense. But coating himself in Sand? He's already sand.

Now that i think of it. He is sand lol. So coating himself in sand will be useless. He'll probably just mold things and bury people alive. He could possibly coat his Hook with Haki and mold it into swords and shit. Maybe his poison will be somehow different aswell.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Now that i think of it. He is sand lol. So coating himself in sand will be useless. He'll probably just mold things and bury people alive. He could possibly coat his Hook with Haki and mold it into swords and shit. Maybe his poison will be somehow different aswell.

What if he somehow sampled Magellans strongest poison and uses it in his hook?

 

[Fireplay]

What if he somehow sampled Magellans strongest poison and uses it in his hook?

I'd like to see that happen. Though his poison can already melt rocks. Don't know if Magellan's can do the same. I really hope that Croc's Haki can make his sand similar to glass or that he can pull off something that turns his sand into glass.

 

[Avinash012]

Want to see him as a yonko though it is not possible , I want him to help Luffy & co against Joker.

 

[Hexuze]

It's possibly that he would want to reclaim Alabasta back again. I think that's why Doffy asked him to team up during the MF arc, Croc. is prob. very knowledgeable about the void century. I think with haki he should be stronger than Luffy.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I'd like to see that happen. Though his poison can already melt rocks. Don't know if Magellan's can do the same. I really hope that Croc's Haki can make his sand similar to glass or that he can pull off something that turns his sand into glass.

Glass manipulation is very possible and dangerous. Maybe he has a Kairouseki and Diamond hook? They seem to be unaffected by Magellans strongest poison and therefore would be not only strong against Devil Fruits, but also a good weapon and container for the poison.

Want to see him as a yonko though it is not possible , I want him to help Luffy & co against Joker.

Croc won't be a Yonkou right away. But he can develop into being one much later on in the story. Why would he help Luffy defeat Doflamingo since it's gonna happen within the next 10 chapters? Unless Oda pulls another fast one on us he won't appear out of nowhere.

 

[kuramasage]

I'm very much looking forward to seeing Crocodile again. He's an incredibly interesting character. I believe that when the Strawhats meet him again he'll be in a conflict with someone else and in the climax of that arc him and his crew will ally with the Strawhats. Him and Luffy will depart on very good terms.

As for his past he was once a 'man trapped in a woman's body' and a Revolutionary. He left the Revolutionaries to live out his dream of being a pirate. However, he suffered a 'Moria' and was found by Whitebeard. In his anger Crocodile attacked WB but was easily tossed aside. WB tried to reach out to him and have him join him but Crocodile declined and instead vowed revenge. He quickly became a Shichibukai and Baroque Works soon followed.