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Someone needs to find the DNA strand that shows people are gay or not. IF they can find it, then it would put this debate about gays being taught or being born gay to rest.
 

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That's completely different, which you fail to see. How can black's have any negative impact on white's? They can't, hence it is easy to look at them as equals. There was never anything wrong with that idea, white's only looked down upon them because the human race's instinct is to be get a sense of superiority towards others.

On the other hand, gay's can have a negative impact, and I have explained this on several occasions, thus will not do it for the third time. But it is absolutely clear they cannot bring in anything positive, yet bring in only negatives.

So no, this homosexual movement is nothing like the slavery movement. The slavery movement was actually taking back what is righteously theirs, as what is theirs is being equals. Homosexuals are not equals as they do not reproduce to aid the future, nor do they love for the sake of gaining kids for a nice happy life. They love for the sake of pleasure, which is something I completely disagree with. Heterosexuals can make kids and keep humanity going, what can Homosexuals do, may I ask?

Lmfao nicely said.
 

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That's completely different, which you fail to see. How can black's have any negative impact on white's? They can't, hence it is easy to look at them as equals. There was never anything wrong with that idea, white's only looked down upon them because the human race's instinct is to be get a sense of superiority towards others.

On the other hand, gay's can have a negative impact, and I have explained this on several occasions, thus will not do it for the third time. But it is absolutely clear they cannot bring in anything positive, yet bring in only negatives.

So no, this homosexual movement is nothing like the slavery movement. The slavery movement was actually taking back what is righteously theirs, as what is theirs is being equals. Homosexuals are not equals as they do not reproduce to aid the future, nor do they love for the sake of gaining kids for a nice happy life. They love for the sake of pleasure, which is something I completely disagree with. Heterosexuals can make kids and keep humanity going, what can Homosexuals do, may I ask?

See what you just did right there? It's obvious that you are bigotted toward homosexuals. You asked how could blacks have a negative impact on whites? What if during the civil war we didn't just want equal rights but become the dominate race on the planet and thus brought death to whites? That's harmful.

You are wrong it is the EXACT SAME THING!

Homosexuals can and do reproduce. They are gay not a different species. A large number of homosexual couples have biological baies via mid-wife or invetro fertilization. The mom's carry the babies to term and are paid very well for it. Then the child is a product of their parent's very own DNA.

Do you even know what you are talking about? You think because someone is gay or lesbian they are incapable or unwilling to create life? One of my fathers is my biological father as they both submitted sperm samples to the mid-wife and I was the result.

You show your ignoracnes with your posts. Just admit you are simply a bigot when it comes to homosexuality. You don't have to like it or even accept it. But I will have much more respect for you if you just come to terms with your hatred about something you know aboslutely nothing about.
 
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Someone needs to find the DNA strand that shows people are gay or not. IF they can find it, then it would put this debate about gays being taught or being born gay to rest.

Get this this they found no gay gene or 100 percent evidence that supports them being born gay. this debate will forever continue to go on.

and whats really sad is that children are being taught you are born this way when in reality you arent as its neither genetic or a choice.
 

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Get this this they found no gay gene or 100 percent evidence that supports them being born gay. this debate will forever continue to go on.

and whats really sad is that children are being taught you are born this way when in reality you arent as its neither genetic or a choice.

Exactly.

People just need to accept that being gay is simply a behavioural response to certain events in the environment. You aren't "gay" per se... you engage in homosexual activities.

I mean, the greeks had *** with each other during times of war... was it needed? Yes. Did they go back and breed their wives after the war? yes.

We're they bi? Yes.

Is engaging in homosexuality an aspect of being bi? yes.

Therefore, it is safe to say we are all born bi, but under certain circumstances can sway into doing things for the same ***.
 

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See what you just did right there? It's obvious that you are bigotted toward homosexuals. You asked how could blacks have a negative impact on whites? What if during the civil war we didn't just want equal rights but become the dominate race on the planet and thus brought death to whites? That's harmful.

You are wrong it is the EXACT SAME THING!

Homosexuals can and do reproduce. They are gay not a different species. A large number of homosexual couples have biological baies via mid-wife or invetro fertilization. The mom's carry the babies to term and are paid very well for it. Then the child is a product of their parent's very own DNA.

Do you even know what you are talking about? You think because someone is gay or lesbian they are incapable or unwilling to create life? One of my fathers is my biological father as they both submitted sperm samples to the mid-wife and I was the result.

You show your ignoracnes with your posts. Just admit you are simply a bigot when it comes to homosexuality. You don't have to like it or even accept it. But I will have much more respect for you if you just come to terms with your hatred about something you know aboslutely nothing about.

Really you just made yourself somewhat ignorant even about homosexuality and reproducing/family life.

Men cant get pregnant, and although men can reproduce with the opposite *** they cant with the same *** so even if he does have a child with a women and he and his male partner decide to raise the child its still not the other guy child and not to mention creating a family life wont actually be a family on account the child has no mother only 2 dads who try to push homosexuality onto them in late life
 

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A simple Google search can take care of that. To list a few: Lev 18:22, Rom 1:26-28, 1 Cor 6:9, 1 Tim 1:10.


((I'm not "liberal" or "extremist" in regards to my Christianity. Frankly, I go with what the Bible says nd do not add to nor take away by some man's opinions.))
Where does scripture say anime is bad?
And as for women addressing men first, I assume you are making reference to 1 Tim 2:12. If so, the context (8-15) is speaking in regards to authoritative teaching between Christians (such as preaching), not any time a man and woman speak.
I'd also like to point out that these aren't my rules. No one has the authority to change scripture in any way aside from the writer.

[{(However, I will say this. If you discard Scripture, than you have no logical reason to prevent homosexual marriage. In fact, without it, anything goes. However, the reality is that there is a God who has rules, and eternal consequences for breaking/following them. However such is another discussion for another time, I'm simply saying this to say it, not to argue it.]})


So just because YOUR religion tells you it's wrong... other people with other beliefs shouldn't be able to marry the ones they love? :erm:
 

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Get this this they found no gay gene or 100 percent evidence that supports them being born gay. this debate will forever continue to go on.

and whats really sad is that children are being taught you are born this way when in reality you arent as its neither genetic or a choice.

I'm not saying it's genetic, or it's not genetic. But found no gay gene? They still haven't discovered what the majority of DNA even does.
 

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So just because YOUR religion tells you it's wrong... other people with other beliefs shouldn't be able to marry the ones they love? :erm:

News fact for you theres actually alot of people who see homosexuality as morality wrong even without religion or a god.

heres the conflict with people who believe in equality and gay rights about marriage, is that you want to give one group rights but deny another there rights? do you see? equality is Actually quite fake and wrong beccause while one side wants to promote the rights for something another person does believe in and the other does not just means that the world is comming to a evil immorality way that people cant seem to look at.
 

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Really you just made yourself somewhat ignorant even about homosexuality and reproducing/family life.

Men cant get pregnant, and although men can reproduce with the opposite *** they cant with the same *** so even if he does have a child with a women and he and his male partner decide to raise the child its still not the other guy child and not to mention creating a family life wont actually be a family on account the child has no mother only 2 dads who try to push homosexuality onto them in late life

That is one of the most ignorant comments I have read today. YES it takes a man and a woman to mak a child. It DOES NOT take a man and a woman to raise a healthy and stable child.

Your comment not only does a diservice the gay and lesbian couples who have successfully raised healthy and productive straight children, but to single parents as well.

There are single moms and dads out there who have raised perfectly normal children.

On the flip side of that coin, there are families with moms AND dads who have raised their children terribly or have sexually abused them or phscially abused them, neglect, given them up for adoption, aborted them.

Gay couples do not try to push their gay lifestyle on their kids. Quite opposite in fact most gay parents could care less if their child is gay or straight. Where are you getting this terrible information from?

So all it takes to have a healthy child is to just to have a mother and father? That's accurate correct? Tell that to all the unwanted, aborted, abused, and neglated children of households with both moms and dads.

Foolishness....absolute foolishness....
 
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I'm not saying it's genetic, or it's not genetic. But found no gay gene? They still haven't discovered what the majority of DNA even does.

Even i they have not discovered the majority of what dna does not mean we should "assume" anything about homosexuality being born gay or not. thats like saying there will be a cure for all diseases.

fact is the whole debate will continue to go on as long as there are people who claiming that they are born that way or that they choose to be that way.

That is one of the most ignorant comments I have read today. YES it takes a man and a woman to mak a child. It DOES NOT take a man and a woman to raise a healthy and stable child.

Your comment not only does a diservice the gat and lesbian couples who have successfully raised healthy and productive straight children, but to single parents as well.

There are single moms and dads out there who have raised perfectly normal children.

On the flip side of that coin, there are families with moms AND dads who have raised their children terribly or have sexually abused them or phscially abused them, neglect, given them up for adoption, aborted them.

Gay couples do not try to push their gay lifestyle on their kids. Quite opposite in fact most gay parents could care less if their child is gay or straight. Where are you getting this terrible information from?

So all it takes to have a healthy child is to just to have a mother and father? That's accurate correct? Tell that to all the unwanted, aborted, abused, and neglated children of households with both moms and dads.

Foolishness....absolute foolishness....

You are quite wrong on everything you posted.

1. no one is normal
2. single parents raising a kid without there husband or wife, the child actually grows up damaged.
3. gay parents and straight parents some have did what you mention rape,abuse,neglected,slavery etc.

4. You are so damn stupid about gay parents. i hope you realize that both gay and straight parents are curious as to rather there child is gay or not parents notice it. and guess what gay parents try to see if that child will turn out like them by testing them unlike the straight parents.

and number 5. no it does not take straight parents to raise children it takes grown mature adults to raise a child.

you should be able to grasp this but without a mother love to the child there will always be a void in that child who desires a mothers love not a guys love
 
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Even i they have not discovered the majority of what dna does not mean we should "assume" anything about homosexuality being born gay or not. thats like saying there will be a cure for all diseases.

fact is the whole debate will continue to go on as long as there are people who claiming that they are born that way or that they choose to be that way.


I more or less agree with the bold. As I stated, I'm not saying it's genetic or it's not genetic. I just wondered about the statement of no gay gene being present within the DNA, since a lot of the non-coding DNA is still a mystery; which may one day lead to discovery of the absence or presence of "gay genes". But yeah, I get what you're saying.
 

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Get this this they found no gay gene or 100 percent evidence that supports them being born gay. this debate will forever continue to go on.

and whats really sad is that children are being taught you are born this way when in reality you aren't as its neither genetic or a choice.

To find it would take years and year of research. They would have to weave through the billions of strands that make up a human being and find the difference. If they find it, then yay debate it over. If they don't then they continue to speculate and say what they THINK is true.

This is what I have a problem with. They have no real factual evidence to suggest that being gay is nature, but they go around saying that it is true. They should say what is true which is they are working on the answer. This way people don't go around saying things which they can't back up with facts to support it. All they do is give their opinion on the matter and say well this person I know didn't grow up being gay and he/she had two moms/dads so it must be nature. They don't look at the big picture and see how many others may have grown up in the same situation and had the exact opposite experience.

The problem is neither example can say without a doubt one causes the other. Until then no one should be spouting out one causes the other. When they do find the result, I will be glad to accept that answer.

I just hope they don't do what they did with the whole evolution thing and start only showing one side of the argument and cover up the other side. Like how they found Noah's ark made of extinct Gopher wood carbon dated back to the times of Noah, or how they found Human and dinosaur footprints in the same sedimentary rock. No one knows about that stuff unless you research it. All you hear about is the other side and how they done all this research that supports the theory of evolution.
 

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You are quite wrong on everything you posted.

1. no one is normal
2. single parents raising a kid without there husband or wife, the child actually grows up damaged.
3. gay parents and straight parents some have did what you mention rape,abuse,neglected,slavery etc.

4. You are so damn stupid about gay parents. i hope you realize that both gay and straight parents are curious as to rather there child is gay or not parents notice it. and guess what gay parents try to see if that child will turn out like them by testing them unlike the straight parents.

and number 5. no it does not take straight parents to raise children it takes grown mature adults to raise a child.

you should be able to grasp this but without a mother love to the child there will always be a void in that child who desires a mothers love not a guys love

You are the ignorant one. I HAVE 2 FATHERS you nimrod! So I know what the hell I am talking about. You yourself are claiming that kids are going to be damaged because they were not raised by a man and a woman but by gay and lesbian couple...

now look at the part I just put in bold. This came from you not me. Yes BOTH have done this. Your stance is that it is an asured thing that kids will come out damaged from having same *** parents.

You know nothing about it. I do! I am living it. I have a stable job. I go to school, I don't need therapy or counciling. My dads have never tested me to see if I was like them nor did they try to push their lifestyle on me. If anything my being raised by them has shown me just how many misconceptions and just downright stupid ideas people have about what they think facilitates a happy home life.

Seriously dude. I am done with you. There is no point in trying to help you at lweast understand things when you have already made up your mind to hate the very idea of homosexuality. I pity you because that kind of thinking isn't heathly for anyone.
 

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To find it would take years and year of research. They would have to weave through the billions of strands that make up a human being and find the difference. If they find it, then yay debate it over. If they don't then they continue to speculate and say what they THINK is true.

This is what I have a problem with. They have no real factual evidence to suggest that being gay is nature, but they go around saying that it is true. They should say what is true which is they are working on the answer. This way people don't go around saying things which they can't back up with facts to support it. All they do is give their opinion on the matter and say well this person I know didn't grow up being gay and he/she had two moms/dads so it must be nature. They don't look at the big picture and see how many others may have grown up in the same situation and had the exact opposite experience.

The problem is neither example can say without a doubt one causes the other. Until then no one should be spouting out one causes the other. When they do find the result, I will be glad to accept that answer.

I just hope they don't do what they did with the whole evolution thing and start only showing one side of the argument and cover up the other side. Like how they found Noah's ark made of extinct Gopher wood carbon dated back to the times of Noah, or how they found Human and dinosaur footprints in the same sedimentary rock. No one knows about that stuff unless you research it. All you hear about is the other side and how they done all this research that supports the theory of evolution.


@Bold, not trying to turn this into a thread about evolution, but yeah, there's a lot of things that make the evolution theory hard to accept, but won't ever hear it unless you search it for yourself. In DNA, and on the molecular level, the evolution theory seems quite unlikely.
 
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You are the ignorant one. I HAVE 2 FATHERS you nimrod! So I know what the hell I am talking about. You yourself are claiming that kids are going to be damaged because they were not raised by a man and a woman but by gay and lesbian couple...

now look at the part I just put in bold. This came from you not me. Yes BOTH have done this. Your stance is that it is an asured thing that kids will come out damaged from having same *** parents.

You know nothing about it. I do! I am living it. I have a stable job. I go to school, I don't need therapy or counciling. My dads have never tested me to see if I was like them nor did they try to push their lifestyle on me. If anything my being raised by them has shown me just how many misconceptions and just downright stupid ideas people have about what they think facilitates a happy home life.

Seriously dude. I am done with you. There is no point in trying to help you at lweast understand things when you have already made up your mind to hate the very idea of homosexuality. I pity you because that kind of thinking isn't heathly for anyone.

1. they are going be damage beccause they wont know who there parents/mother was.
2. i never said they will be damage from have both same *** parents, i said they will be damaged by being (adopted) thus never really knowning there parents or being born from there mother and the gay dads who decide to cut the mother out the picture.
3. theres a huge difference between trying to "push" homosexuality onto a kid and actually asking them questions or showing them homosexual stuff. just beccause your life is like that does not mean millions of others went that way or is like that.

and number 4. i dont hate homosexuality i dislike it and how people promote gay pride and being born this way agenda thats it.
 

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I think people are getting way too serious about this. Everyone has their own opinions and we may not agree with one another but at the end of the day gays exist and gay marriage isn't a sure thing. I personally support this but if someone who has said politely that they don't agree with it then that's their opinion. The only time we should get annoyed is when people voice their opinions in an harsh way
 

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I'm all for it, their love is probably more pure than most heterosexual relations
 

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