Orochimaru has SM ...

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Anime fact, not manga.. In the last episode of Naruto Shippuden, Orochimaru stated he secured HIS 'Sage Jutsu Chakra' into the curse marks of his victims/students (whatever you want to call them). So the question is answered, whether Orochimaru actually has SM or not! :) For a long time many have wondered if he has it and a lot of people said no because we are told that he had failed at trying to obtain SM at Ryuchi Cave. But to some extent he obviously still has some form of SM even if it is only minor, this is based on the anime facts :)
 
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Anime fact not manga.. In the last episode he stated he secured HIS 'Sage Jutsu Chakra' into the curse marks. So the question is answered. For a long time many have wondered if he has it and a lot of people say he failed at trying to obtain SM. But minor or major, he still has some form of SM based on the anime :)
yes he does and it shopuld be manga fact now cause he has a senju body now
 

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I know, he also absorbed his chakra from Kabuto, and he also got some knowledge from Kabuto, that's why he could copy his perfect Edo Tensei, and he probably know how to enter SM perfectly, also he got Senju DNA now.
 

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He been had Sage mode... he even told Sasuke he split his Sage chakra into all those curse marks.
 

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Ok, then we will have to wait and see.
 

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He has senjutsu chakra, but according to Kabuto his body couldn't maintain it, that is why he was going body hunting
 

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But what if he sucks at it, have we ever seen how well he can use it? Simply having an ability does not mean you can utilize it to its full potential, you have to train with it as well. So it's not really confirmed he has DSM, at least not on the same level as Kabuto.
 

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he simply has Sage chakra stored, but does not have Sage Mode...
 

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It's a manga fact aswell he said he stored most of his senjutsu charka in anko. It is a manga fact you missed it. Kabuto even said orochimaru has been there. C'mon he's a legendary Sannin.
 

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Anime fact not manga.. In the last episode he stated he secured HIS 'Sage Jutsu Chakra' into the curse marks. So the question is answered. For a long time many have wondered if he has it and a lot of people say he failed at trying to obtain SM. But minor or major, he still has some form of SM based on the anime :)

He said that in the manga as well , but he made the CM from Juugo's chakra, that's why Sasuke's body was compatible to be fused with Juugo's flesh after Bee blown it off. Juugo even called Sasuke a copy of him when they first met . When Sasuke used Juugo's Senjutsu chakra with Susanoo is when he said he used Juugo's chakra .

Oro could have infused his chakra with Juugo's senjutsu before putting it in others, remember how Orochimaru gives others the CM? He had to of had Juugo's chakra in him to put it in Sasuke right? And the more you use the CM, the more you become a slave to Orochimaru so his chakra had to be infused to it.

yes he does and it shopuld be manga fact now cause he has a senju body now

Having a senju body doesn't mean anything, Did Jiraiya have Senju body? No. Kabuto never said having Karin's DNA allowed him to get SM, he said only thru training can you achieve it's power. Orochimaru tried to replicate Juugo's clan ability, not train like Kabuto, he failed to find a body that can replicate Juugo's clan ability. It never said he tried to train to get the power, Kabuto said he also dreamed to go to the snake place and trained under the Snake Sage where he surpassed Orochimaru

I know, he also absorbed his chakra from Kabuto, and he also got some knowledge from Kabuto, that's why he could copy his perfect Edo Tensei, and he probably know how to enter SM perfectly, also he got Senju DNA now.

Knowing how it's done doesn't me you can do it, Kabuto had to train to master SM power while Orochimaru only tried replicating Juugo's clan ability but couldn't find a body that could copy the ability . Pa toad told Naruto what to do but Naruto didn't just gain the power to absorb and sense natural energy, he had to train and used clones to speed up the time. Also had to train himself to be completely still which also allowed him to absorb even more natural energy than he did with the oil. Having Senju DNA means nothing there since it's all chakra control in the form of chakra molding using senjutsu, and nothing about the body.

He been had Sage mode... he even told Sasuke he split his Sage chakra into all those curse marks.

That was Juugo's chakra, Orochimaru said this when Sasuke used Juugo's senjutsu with his Susanoo also Sasuke was only compatible with Juugo's flesh after Bee blown off Sasuke because the CM was based on Juugo. I have links provided in above replies ^^^

He has senjutsu chakra, but according to Kabuto his body couldn't maintain it, that is why he was going body hunting

No, Kabuto said Orochimaru tried replicating Juugo's clan ability to absorb natural energy but failed to find a body that can copy the ability. . Kabuto gained that ability thru training and Oro trained to gain it by experiments.

he simply has Sage chakra stored, but does not have Sage Mode...

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PS. It says he found the place, not that he trained there. Kabuto only said he trained there and surpassed Oro.
 

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Thanks for all the input guys. Sorry that I missed it in the manga :eek: And yeah I guess he must just have the chakra but I think he is going to get SM in future at the least. I hope so!! :eek:
 

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PS. It says he found the place, not that he trained there. Kabuto only said he trained there and surpassed Oro.

If he didn't train there, how did he know that his body wasn't capable of entering SM?
He must've trained there to a point where one is ready to enter SM, but in Oro's case he couldn't, since his body wasn't strong enough. Moreover, he mastered Senjutsu chakra gathering and manipulation.
 

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If he didn't train there, how did he know that his body wasn't capable of entering SM?
He must've trained there to a point where one is ready to enter SM, but in Oro's case he couldn't, since his body wasn't strong enough. Moreover, he mastered Senjutsu chakra gathering and manipulation.

As I said in that same post, Kabuto said Orochimaru tried to replicate Juugo's clan's ability and could not find a body that could copy the ability. Same how Oro tried replicating Hashirama's ability and all of his test subjects but Yamato died and failed to replicate the ability. It had nothing to do about his body not being about to handle SM because SM is all chakra related training and training to be still and one with nature.

Kabuto actually said he trained and gained the ability . Kabuto said Orochimaru didn't only care why Juugo went berserk but also also paid attention to the source of the clan's ability. He found where that ability came from but haven't found a body that could bare the ability

Now look back in those chapters, Kabuto was copying Orochimaru by combining powers to themselves by implanting it into their body. and also . The only thing Kabuto didn't copy was when he said the only way to gain the ability was to self train under the snakes which he did. Other than that he copied Orochimaru.

Also it was never said he mastered gathering and balancing it, having Senjutsu doesn't mean you mastered it. Juugo went wild because he couldn't control it and it was his Senjutsu that Oro used for the CM. At most he had an imperfect form like Jiraiya
 
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