Naruto > Madara

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He didn't defeat Nagato, he had Bee's and Itachi's help. Naruto also lost to the 6POP, the only reason he ended up winning was because Nagato was sick and because the Kyuubi went on a rage, without being controlled, thus Naruto having nothing to do with the victory. Lel. Are you implying Naruto could've beat Sasuke back then? Not a chance, that forehead protector statement is outright ridiculous, since nothing proves that was his entire goal, nothing suggests it hindered him from beating Sasuke, and nothing suggests he had a remote chance of beating Sasuke. Furthermore, if I were to go by your logic, you just implied Naruto could beat Madara, Hashirama, and Nagato alone, since the scenario's you laid out to prove he can win would ultimately result in a scenario similar to what I just put.

He only wins with other people's help so your argument doesn't hold. Neji in part 1 lel. Gaara is the only one I can say he solo'd, and that was in par 1. We have already seen Naruto get caught in the Mukoton dragon, and lost his chakra. What suggests he won't lose it this time? Nothing. TBB gets absorbed. Naruto's speed is dealt with, with the use of Mukoton. Naruto has no chance, hop off him and accept the truth. Your argument of the manga being called Naruto isn't valid. Give me feats and scenario's on how, or accept the truth, son.

Naruto owned the 6 paths of pain. and Naruto is way more powerful than he was at that point. more powerful than his rampage. and is controlled. and Neji in part one was just an example of someone like madara who is too cocky in his abilities and thinks he has it all won and was owned by Naruto. Naruto has the will of fire. Mock it all you want, it is more powerful than madara can imagine.

And nothing proves that wasn't naruto's goal to scratch his headband? how about earlier when sasuke said he could never scratch it, it was hinted at TWICE.
 

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Hashirama and Madara were legends to the shinobi world. Sasuke and Naruto have the potential to surpass them but they have not done so yet. Even now Madara has Hashirama's powers infused in him which makes him even stronger than before. Naruto only has half of Kurama's power, he's not stronger than him yet.
 

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You are underestimated Naruto's true power, the will of fire. As most of his enemies do. Naruto will own Madara.

How did I underestimate naruto? I didn't even mention him, you're starting to look like a troll fangirl.
 

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Hashirama and Madara were legends to the shinobi world. Sasuke and Naruto have the potential to surpass them but they have not done so yet. Even now Madara has Hashirama's powers infused in him which makes him even stronger than before. Naruto only has half of Kurama's power, he's not stronger than him yet.

I have not seen anything that implies Madara is faster/stronger than SM+BM naruto. He just has a buncha inferior moves that he stacks up. Healing? Orochimaru can take stabs and shit and still be ok, nothing new. Rinnegan? Naruto already defeated a rinnegan user, and is much more powerful than when he did now. Mokuton, already was used on naruto during the obito naruto kakashi madara fight. The only reason Naruto isnt' blitzing all around madara and slapping him around like a pinball, is cuz kishi wants to make naruto the underdog for the final fight, and use his will of fire and beat him.
 

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How did I underestimate naruto? I didn't even mention him, you're starting to look like a troll fangirl.

"You are underestimated Madara" and I could call you a Madara fanboy. Saying things like troll, fanboy, etc, is getting old to describe things. You ARE underestimating Naruto and the fact remains that naruto will beat him.
 

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naruto is weak did you see him get slapped so hard that the impact sent him flying into rock debris?

and it's naruto + kyuubi, naruto alone can't defeat madara let alone out speed him in actual combat it's a joint effort

in sm naruto is clearly inferior wihtout kuybii stat boosts naruto doesn't hvae any chance of winning

at this point, he's stamina is plot enhanced as he was fihgting for hours on ends

sasuke is the one to dafeat maadra imo he will unlok rinngan cuz i think it forshadowed
 

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Wait till the end of the manga b4 posting this buddy, but 4 now #In Madara We Trust
 

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Your avatar is so disturbing
Why your description is 'the most hated member there'??:|
Take a hug boi..:hug:
O.T.-Madara can take out Naruto without Rinnegan, he has sage mode+PS.U_U
 

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Naruto owned the 6 paths of pain. and Naruto is way more powerful than he was at that point. more powerful than his rampage. and is controlled. and Neji in part one was just an example of someone like madara who is too cocky in his abilities and thinks he has it all won and was owned by Naruto. Naruto has the will of fire. Mock it all you want, it is more powerful than madara can imagine.

And nothing proves that wasn't naruto's goal to scratch his headband? how about earlier when sasuke said he could never scratch it, it was hinted at TWICE.
Owned the 6 Paths? Lel.
1. He had full intel
2. 5 summons at the start of the match, which had no effects on his chakra
3. Still got shitted on by Deva, until the Kyuubi himself ended up winning.
Lol. Madara has every right to be cocky considering his strength, Neji was a fodder, do not even begin to make comparisons. Furthermore, Neji was a naive child, Madara is a highly intelligent shinobi with tonnes of experience and skill.
Oh shit.. Not the will of fire...... I remember how strong Iruka was with the will of fire.

What? I know he wanted to do it.. But how did that hinder his ability to beat Sasuke? it didn't unless you have proof. Sasuke could read Naruto like a book with his 3T Sharingan, Naruto had no chance, thus why Sasuke was the last man standing. Anyways, since you have indirectly just told me you're an incompetent fool, how about you directly tell me how Naruto can bypass the Mukoton and the Rinnegan.
 

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Owned the 6 Paths? Lel.
1. He had full intel
2. 5 summons at the start of the match, which had no effects on his chakra
3. Still got shitted on by Deva, until the Kyuubi himself ended up winning.
Lol. Madara has every right to be cocky considering his strength, Neji was a fodder, do not even begin to make comparisons. Furthermore, Neji was a naive child, Madara is a highly intelligent shinobi with tonnes of experience and skill.
Oh shit.. Not the will of fire...... I remember how strong Iruka was with the will of fire.

What? I know he wanted to do it.. But how did that hinder his ability to beat Sasuke? it didn't unless you have proof. Sasuke could read Naruto like a book with his 3T Sharingan, Naruto had no chance, thus why Sasuke was the last man standing. Anyways, since you have indirectly just told me you're an incompetent fool, how about you directly tell me how Naruto can bypass the Mukoton and the Rinnegan.

When are you going to realize that Naruto and Kurama are in it together and are one at the moment? If you make that argument, I'll just throw in that Madara is enhanced by kabuto and shouldnt have Mokuton from Hashi or rinnegan/healing(again, because of someone elses power) So yeah, who's the incompetent fool? Again, naruto defeated a rinnegan user already. It has weaknesses. Or where you not listening to Itachi? And Madara already used mokuton on naruto, didn't work so well.
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"You are underestimated Madara" and I could call you a Madara fanboy. Saying things like troll, fanboy, etc, is getting old to describe things. You ARE underestimating Naruto and the fact remains that naruto will beat him.

Again you're starting to look more and more like a fangirl who can't except the fact that Madara is the strongest ninja alive right now. Stating the obvious doesn't make a person a fan boy or girl, denying facts because you can't handle your favorite character is currently not the strongest does, and sorry, just because you say or think something's getting old, doesn't make it outdated, words become outdated when the majority of people stop using them, and lately I've been seeing those words everywhere especially on NB. Your argument is completely invalid right now, none of the points you are making hold any kind logic in them. Also you're right Naruto is more than likely going to win, with the help of the ninja alliance, because it's impossible right now for him to solo Madara, it's just how it is
 

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I have not seen anything that implies Madara is faster/stronger than SM+BM naruto. He just has a buncha inferior moves that he stacks up. Healing? Orochimaru can take stabs and shit and still be ok, nothing new. Rinnegan? Naruto already defeated a rinnegan user, and is much more powerful than when he did now. Mokuton, already was used on naruto during the obito naruto kakashi madara fight. The only reason Naruto isnt' blitzing all around madara and slapping him around like a pinball, is cuz kishi wants to make naruto the underdog for the final fight, and use his will of fire and beat him.

That's completely biased. Nagato did not have uchiha and senju running through his veins. He was a realitive to the senju, he was only able to use the Rinnegan because the eyes were implanted into his. He didn't awaken the Rinnegan like Madara did. Madara now has Hashirama's DNA infused in him as I stated before. Madara has yet to retrieve his eyes back from Obito and he still explained that he could still take Sasuke's eyes without any hesitation.

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He did all of that with his eyes closed. That says enough for itself, and even as Sai and Naruto were coming from both sides he still managed to get out of it. Again he doesn't have his eyes yet. Up until now all of those things Naruto has faced has been inferior to what Madara will be able to do. Everyone Madara came into contact with last chapter was beaten neg diff. Madara blitzed the God of Shinobi, Naruto, Sasuke and the rest of the SA are inferior to him as of now.
 

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Again you're starting to look more and more like a fangirl who can't except the fact that Madara is the strongest ninja alive right now. Stating the obvious doesn't make a person a fan boy or girl, denying facts because you can't handle your favorite character is currently not the strongest does, and sorry, just because you say or think something's getting old, doesn't make it outdated, words become outdated when the majority of people stop using them, and lately I've been seeing those words everywhere especially on NB. Your argument is completely invalid right now, none of the points you are making hold any kind logic in them. Also you're right Naruto is more than likely going to win, with the help of the ninja alliance, because it's impossible right now for him to solo Madara, it's just how it is
Where did it state that he's the strongest ninja alive right now? Is he fighting a fully restored Naruto with BM+SM ? No? Didn't think so. Where did it EVER state that madara's speed now exceeds a BM naruto? Next you're going to say he is faster than Minato. "you're starting to look more and more like a fangirl who can't except the fact that Madara is the strongest ninja alive right now" Sounds like you're doing the same with madara, hypocrite much?:bye:
 

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That's completely biased. Nagato did not have uchiha and senju running through his veins. He was a realitive to the senju, he was only able to use the Rinnegan because the eyes were implanted into his. He didn't awaken the Rinnegan like Madara did. Madara now has Hashirama's DNA infused in him as I stated before. Madara has yet to retrieve his eyes back from Obito and he still explained that he could still take Sasuke's eyes without any hesitation.

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He did all of that with his eyes closed. That says enough for itself, and even as Sai and Naruto were coming from both sides he still managed to get out of it. Again he doesn't have his eyes yet. Up until now all of those things Naruto has faced has been inferior to what Madara will be able to do. Everyone Madara came into contact with last chapter was beaten neg diff. Madara blitzed the God of Shinobi, Naruto, Sasuke and the rest of the SA are inferior to him as of now.

He simply let him stab him cuz he knew he would heal from it. Sasuke did nothing special besides amaterasu. =/= BM+SM naruto.
 

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When are you going to realize that Naruto and Kurama are in it together and are one at the moment? If you make that argument, I'll just throw in that Madara is enhanced by kabuto and shouldnt have Mokuton from Hashi or rinnegan/healing(again, because of someone elses power) So yeah, who's the incompetent fool?
Now they are, back then they weren't, I am simply showing you the scenario you created was fallacious. Lol? Was that supposed to be a good argument? First of all if you were to interpret my claims like that, then Naruto wouldn't have the Kyuubi at all since Madara doesn't have the Mukoton at all. EMS Madara would easily shit on *SM Naruto, so your point is once again invalid. Moreover, if they both were to have all their abilities as they do currently, then Madara wins low-mid diff. Mukoton dragon absorbs Kyuubi avatar [ ]. SM reacts to anything Naruto attempts to do and counters. Juubi sized fires will be of trouble to Naruto. Mokujin catches any TBB used by Naruto and throws it back at Naruto. Shinsuusnju solo's Naruto with no difficulty. MNWT catches Naruto off guard as well. Now it's your turn to tell me how Naruto gets shitted on wins.
Edit: Mukoton tree didn't work well? Hmm.. Took away his chakra [ ] and took the combined effort of four people to stop it.
 
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You all really under estimate Naruto and his powers, hes the ONLY one since the Sage to master the Nine tails chakra to interface with it so completely. His chakra is a literal skeleton key atm. He can interface with ANYONES chakra, that includes Madara, which makes him very vulnerable.

Even Madara was surprised at Naruto's control over the kyuubi chakra and how he got it to interface with everyone. He could also still manipulate it after it entered their bodies. IE all Naruto has to do is get his chakra in Madara and he can control it like a puppet master.

Against Shinsuusnju naruto would use compressed Biju mode, thats the form with the "blitz" speed, if you can outpace that giant wood construct then its useless.
 
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You're a Naruto(character fanatic) aren't you, you got love for the damn dude that puts you up there with the top five, stay strong bro. Still Madara just got revived, let's all just wait till he gets his renningan, then the shitstomping begins:happy:
 

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You all really under estimate Naruto and his powers, hes the ONLY one since the Sage to master the Nine tails chakra to interface with it so completely. His chakra is a literal skeleton key atm. He can interface with ANYONES chakra, that includes Madara, which makes him very vulnerable.

Even Madara was surprised at Naruto's control over the kyuubi chakra and how he got it to interface with everyone. He could also still manipulate it after it entered their bodies. IE all Naruto has to do is get his chakra in Madara and he can control it like a puppet master.
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Now they are, back then they weren't, I am simply showing you the scenario you created was fallacious. Lol? Was that supposed to be a good argument? First of all if you were to interpret my claims like that, then Naruto wouldn't have the Kyuubi at all since Madara doesn't have the Mukoton at all. EMS Madara would easily shit on *SM Naruto, so your point is once again invalid. Moreover, if they both were to have all their abilities as they do currently, then Madara wins low-mid diff. Mukoton dragon absorbs Kyuubi avatar [ ]. SM reacts to anything Naruto attempts to do and counters. Juubi sized fires will be of trouble to Naruto. Mokujin catches any TBB used by Naruto and throws it back at Naruto. Shinsuusnju solo's Naruto with no difficulty. MNWT catches Naruto off guard as well. Now it's your turn to tell me how Naruto gets shitted on wins.
Edit: Mukoton tree didn't work well? Hmm.. Took away his chakra [ ] and took the combined effort of four people to stop it.

My whole point, which you are missing, is that people with way more abilities stacking up, still lose to Naruto. And again, no where has it shown that Madara is faster than naruto. Now Madara is catching tailed beast bombs like baseballs? Ok show proof of his ability to do that. I'll wait. Like I said, next you'll be saying Madara is faster than Minato and could solo a Minato/Tobirama tag team. Madara has no chance. The manga, once again, is called Naruto, and he WILL defeat him. Catching TBBs..... lol. Just leave, this isn't DBZ
 
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