Does Hashirama have any chance vs Nagato?

[Djokovic]

We saw how weak the first hokage is against those rods. Once he stabs Hashi 2 or 3 times its game over. This recent chapter opened my eyes.
He can pull hashi to make stabbing a lil easier, he will also gain speed adventage when using asura path.

What do you guys think?
Madara soloing Hashirama with ease made me believe Nagato is the superior one, but this one wont be easy.
I call it mid-high difficulty.

 

[straightup]

Wait so those we rods madara got hashi with? idk i kinda see your point. It makes sense in theory but in ractice i think hashi still mops nagato

 

[-immortal-]

no. Hashirama still beats nagato

 

[-ahhimane-]

We saw how weak the first hokage is against those rods. Once he stabs Hashi 2 or 3 times its game over. This recent chapter opened my eyes.
He can pull hashi to make stabbing a lil easier, he will also gain speed adventage when using asura path.

What do you guys think?
Madara soloing Hashirama with ease made me believe Nagato is the superior one, but this one wont be easy.
I call it mid-high difficulty.

Because Madara has Hashirama's Mokuton.

 

[SeriousDogg]

LOL Nagato is not Madara, he is insanely strong but Hashi solos him.

 

[BlacLord™]

Only because Madara has Hashirama's cells in combination with his own.

 

[RONNIN]

Hashirama is even soloing Edo Madara and you are still saying such stuff . Anyway, Hashirama stomps Nagato .

 

[VongolaX]

Madara used his will (black rods) to absorb (preta path) Hashirama's chakra.

The fact that it is Madara using his will is a different story, Nagato has shown no powerful use of the materialized will like obito and madara did.

So no, wood dragon is enough

 

[SeriousDogg]

Hashirama is even soloing Edo Madara and you are still saying such stuff . Anyway, Hashirama stomps Nagato .

lol Edo Madara solos Hashirama med difficulty.

but Hashi>Nagato

 

[ITACHItheINVINCIBLE7]

i have always said noone can stands a chance before rinnegan apart from sharingan
so nagato destroys hashi easily

 

[illidanson]

Hmmm...

Well if you ask me:

Healthy Nagato > or = SM Hashirama >> Base Hashirama >>> Nagato >>>>> Six Paths of Pain.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

This is a tough one, especially since Hashirama has no intel on Nagato. hmm
Even in the fight against Pein, Naruto only survived because he could use SM more than once and had the Kyubi which saved him when Naruto was on the ground. Hashirama doesn't have any biju and cannot use SM more than once. :eww:
I say Pein definitely has a chance against alive Hashirama, but if he's against Edo Hashirama then it's more difficult. :yeah:

Pein > Hashirama
Pein = Edo Hashirama, imo

 

[KingHashirama]

I mean its not like the badass fight he had with Madara had anything to do with it.. right?

 

[RikudouMadara]

Hashirama is even soloing Edo Madara and you are still saying such stuff . Anyway, Hashirama stomps Nagato .

When did Edo Hashirama defeat Edo Madara....? Madara says himself he wasn't fighting for real, and still Madara was able to weaken Hashirama to the point of being immobilized....while not fighting for real.

Hashirama is indeed powerful, but Madara won the fight...it may seem unfortunate for some, but it is the reality.

 

[KingHashirama]

When did Edo Hashirama defeat Edo Madara....? Madara says himself he wasn't fighting for real, and still Madara was able to weaken Hashirama to the point of being immobilized....while not fighting for real.

Hashirama is indeed powerful, but Madara won the fight...it may seem unfortunate for some, but it is the reality.

@Bold when was this??? rofl.

Not to be rude, but making excuse for characters when they were immobilized and saying they weren't fighting for reals.. when in fact their personality goes against that excuse is kind of a flaw.

 

[RikudouMadara]

@Bold when was this??? rofl.

Not to be rude, but making excuse for characters when they were immobilized and saying they weren't fighting for reals.. when in fact their personality goes against that excuse is kind of a flaw.

I understand....you're not rude King. Although.....if you check the Viz translation section....MadaraRules has put the entire Viz for that chapter. Well....at least the entire Viz for Madara and Hashiramas dialogue. Madara says

Madara: "Finally, I can fight for real!

This is the form, the body I needed!

It's not a battle without raging blood and a pounding heart!!"

He wasn't fighting for real....he gained a heightened exuberance due to being alive. Greater excitement because of it. He says it was no battle without blood, heart, etc. Means he was apathetic until getting revived.

It's also to the point where King.....you couldn't ever come off as rude. You're very respectful, and I in turn have no quarrels with returning that respect. I feel I understand you wouldn't act immature....we always have enlightening conversations. ^_^:yayy::hooray:

 

[KingHashirama]

I understand....you're not rude King. Although.....if you check the Viz translation section....MadaraRules has put the entire Viz for that chapter. Well....at least the entire Viz for Madara and Hashiramas dialogue. Madara says

Madara: "Finally, I can fight for real!

This is the form, the body I needed!

It's not a battle without raging blood and a pounding heart!!"

He wasn't fighting for real....he gained a heightened exuberance due to being alive. Greater excitement because of it. He says it was no battle without blood, heart, etc. Means he was apathetic until getting revived.

It's also to the point where King.....you couldn't ever come off as rude. You're very respectful, and I in turn have no quarrels with returning that respect. I feel I understand you wouldn't act immature....we always have enlightening conversations. ^_^:yayy::hooray:

He said finally I can fight for reals. Because he has a real body. With Edo body he couldn't put his plan of becoming the jinchuriki into work. In a real body he can. Madara uchiha is the same guy who brought out his "true power" against Hashirama. .

Not only that being restrained by Hashirama, the guy who he hates the most, and being toyed around by him is kind of against Madara's character.

Notice in the recent chapter he himself said not everything is going to plans. I mean I can just say Hashirama isn't scared so he is still stronger than Madara. But would that be true for the current Hashirama? no.

 

[stoikis]

edo hashirama is not full powered.
alive hashi>edo hashi
i believe alive hashi could resist the black rods

 

[KingHashirama]

edo hashirama is not full powered.
alive hashi>edo hashi
i believe alive hashi could resist the black rods

Plothole: Why didn't Hashirama pull them out??????

 

[RikudouMadara]

He said finally I can fight for reals. Because he has a real body. With Edo body he couldn't put his plan of becoming the jinchuriki into work. In a real body he can. Madara uchiha is the same guy who brought out his "true power" against Hashirama. .

Not only that being restrained by Hashirama, the guy who he hates the most, and being toyed around by him is kind of against Madara's character.

Notice in the recent chapter he himself said not everything is going to plans. I mean I can just say Hashirama isn't scared so he is still stronger than Madara. But would that be true for the current Hashirama? no.

Understood. ^_^ Though his dialogue in its entirety suggests he was apathetic, bored, not trying as well. I don't think he was saying he can fight for real, because nao he is real. >_O He's real as an Edo just not alive is all. To be real....simply means to exist. He's says finally I can fight for real because nao I'm excited, and with a blood and heart, blah blah. Surely this suggests he wasn't trying, right? >_O