Temari vs Hidan

[Icelerate]

Tayuya wasn't sliced in half because she was crouched underneath a tree so the attack ended up slicing everything above Tayuya's head height. Considering Hidan is taller and isn't going to crouch in the battle, there is no reason why he doesn't get sliced in half. Tayuya never tanked Kiri Kiri mae, it never even hit her, but if it had done so, her death would be very gruesome and of course Kishi wouldn't show it. Kishi also isn't going to show that a PS sword slash can cut a human in half but it should be obvious that it does. So Sky, can Madara's PS sword slash cut Hidan in half?

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[-Sky-]

Tayuya wasn't sliced in half because she was crouched underneath a tree so the attack ended up slicing everything above Tayuya's head height.

The location of this fight is in a forest.

Considering Hidan is taller and isn't going to crouch in the battle, there is no reason why he doesn't get sliced in half.

That's a convenient assumption.

Tayuya never tanked Kiri Kiri mae, it never even hit her,

Doesn't that all but support Hidan being able to take cover behind a tree?

but if it had done so, her death would be very gruesome and of course Kishi wouldn't show it. Kishi also isn't going to show that a PS sword slash can cut a human in half but it should be obvious that it does.

Assuming Tayuya wasn't hit by Kiri Kiri Mae.. Which is a baseless claim quite honestly.

So Sky, can Madara's PS sword slash cut Hidan in half?

Completely unrelated topic. What are you trying to prove with this question? Are you honestly comparing Kiri Kiri Mae to the slash of Destrcution Incarnate?

Of course it would cut him in half.

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I never said she couldn't, I just said it was stronger because she had assistance. Do you agree?

 

[Booker]

The location of this fight is in a forest.



That's a convenient assumption.



Doesn't that all but support Hidan being able to take cover behind a tree?



Assuming Tayuya wasn't hit by Kiri Kiri Mae.. Which is a baseless claim quite honestly.



Completely unrelated topic. What are you trying to prove with this question? Are you honestly comparing Kiri Kiri Mae to the slash of Destrcution Incarnate?

Of course it would cut him in half.



I never said she couldn't, I just said it was stronger because she had assistance. Do you agree?

None of this makes sense because Hidan can clearly be cut/pierced by normal weaponry, and Temari can slice tree trunks in half with her Futon attacks.

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[Joshutsu]

None of this makes sense because Hidan can clearly be cut/pierced by normal weaponry, and Temari can slice tree trunks in half with her Futon attacks.

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I guess they are trying to say Hidan can be as durable as he wants when he wants. Except for when a basic kunai or shuriken get to him.

Kakuzus attack may have destroyed those rotten trees. But it wasn't slicing action, nothing indicates that technique did. The wind pressure simply pushed against the trees in the area and broke them.

We see clear cutting in Temari's case.

 

[paratise]

Hidan can be cut with mere shrukens:

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Shikamaru (with not much of decent physical strength or high hand to hand combat skills) cut through his throat few inches with a mere blade:

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Temari's fuutons will rape this guy no matter how you look at it. Did not completely work for the first time? She can swing her fan several times more.

 

[Booker]

I guess they are trying to say Hidan can be as durable as he wants when he wants. Except for when a basic kunai or shuriken get to him.

Kakuzus attack may have destroyed those rotten trees. But it wasn't slicing action, nothing indicates that technique did. The wind pressure simply pushed against the trees in the area and broke them.

We see clear cutting in Temari's case.

Then Hidan never would be beaten.

 

[-Sky-]

None of this makes sense because Hidan can clearly be cut/pierced by normal weaponry, and Temari can slice tree trunks in half with her Futon attacks.

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Hidan can be cut with mere shrukens:

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Shikamaru (with not much of decent physical strength or high hand to hand combat skills) cut through his throat few inches with a mere blade:

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Temari's fuutons will rape this guy no matter how you look at it. Did not completely work for the first time? She can swing her fan several times more.

Neither of you see what I'm saying here.

You can bring up shurikens, Kunai's, whatever you want, it still doesn't change the fact that Temari's never cut through a person with her Futon. In fact, the most she's ever done is gash the Raikage in a collaboration attack:

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She was several people assisting her there ^

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A couple assisting her here ^ (Also notice how the gash healed near instantaneously)

This was against the Raikage, who has a much tougher body than Hidan, but Temari's Cast Net would also be weaker in a solo scenario. So I highly doubt it's cutting through a person.

Once she splits a person in half, not a bunch of trees, then I'll believe it. Until then, I think Hidan wins. Cutting him won't slow him down one bit. Especially in a forest where her other top jutsu, Kiri Kiri Mae only left a few cuts on Tayuya.

Inb4 plot/censoring excuses

 

[Booker]

Neither of you see what I'm saying here.

You can bring up shurikens, Kunai's, whatever you want, it still doesn't change the fact that Temari's never cut through a person with her Futon. In fact, the most she's ever done is gash the Raikage in a collaboration attack:

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She was several people assisting her there ^

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A couple assisting her here ^ (Also notice how the gash healed near instantaneously)

This was against the Raikage, who has a much tougher body than Hidan, but Temari's Cast Net would also be weaker in a solo scenario. So I highly doubt it's cutting through a person.

Once she splits a person in half, not a bunch of trees, then I'll believe it. Until then, I think Hidan wins. Cutting him won't slow him down one bit. Especially in a forest where her other top jutsu, Kiri Kiri Mae only left a few cuts on Tayuya.

Inb4 plot/censoring excuses

I used to think you were pretty smart, now it's clear you're just stubborn.

So regular skin > tree trunks?

I want to hear you say that.

Censoring and plot is an excuse, it's a part of the manga. In act, I'll even play your little game.

You're whole point is Hidan tanked Kakuzu's Wind Blast with no damage. But we know that's not true, since Hidan was still clothed when the blast was over. Since we can't take plot/censoring reasons into account, Hidan never tanked Kakuzu's blast, because otherwise his cloak would have been completely obliterated.

Do you understand why we have to include plot/censoring now?

 

[-Sky-]

I used to think you were pretty smart, now it's clear you're just stubborn.

I'm sorry to disappoint you. Yes, I firmly believe in what I'm saying here. I'm sorry if you don't like that.

So regular skin > tree trunks?

I want to hear you say that.

Two things.

One: Pressure Damage disintegrated trees here:

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Yet Hidan was not hurt.

Two: Tayuya was hardly cut:

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So these two attacks showed trees getting destroyed. Correct? Yet Tayuya's body was actually pretty clear, however she was killed by getting crushed by the trees yes? So her body held up pretty well against Kiri Kiri Mae. And Hidan showed no bodily damage what so ever here:

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Even though pressure Damage is meant to crush opponents with intense pressure, hence the name. So yeah, that's why I think that.


So, if we want to hold this versus thread by real world logic, then sure, Temari wins. If we hold it by Kishimoto and NV logic, Hidan should have no trouble tanking. Just my opinion.

Censoring and plot is an excuse, it's a part of the manga. In act, I'll even play your little game.

You're whole point is Hidan tanked Kakuzu's Wind Blast with no damage. But we know that's not true, since Hidan was still clothed when the blast was over. Since we can't take plot/censoring reasons into account, Hidan never tanked Kakuzu's blast, because otherwise his cloak would have been completely obliterated.

Do you understand why we have to include plot/censoring now?

When have anyone's clothes been destroyed by any attack in this manga? (Completely)

 

[Prince Charles]

-Sky- Does provide a valid point to support his reasoning.. I give him that So I wouldn't say he is wrong on the matter.

When have anyone's clothes been destroyed by any attack in this manga?

There are some examples of this actually, I can post them if you want me to.

 

[-Sky-]

-Sky- Does provide a valid point to support his reasoning.. I give him that So I wouldn't say he is wrong on the matter.



There are some examples of this actually, I can post them if you want me to.

Thanks PC.

Oh, and yeah peoples clothes get destroyed from the waist up. Never seen someone have their lower clothing get blown off, lol.

 

[Optimistic]

lol there's nothing wrong with being stubborn, Sky keep going with what you believe in cause half the people who are debating against you are also stubborn.lol

 

[-Sky-]

lol there's nothing wrong with being stubborn, Sky keep going with what you believe in cause half the people who are debating against you are also stubborn.lol

You're a God among men, Tim.

 

[Prince Charles]

Thanks PC.

Oh, and yeah peoples clothes get destroyed from the waist up. Never seen someone have their lower clothing get blown off, lol.

Actually itachi has his whole robe in this scan before kirin[

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After kirin his akatsuki robe is completely

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Don't know if you can counter that as a example but you get my drift?( R.I.P Paul Walker). And yeah I get what your saying on the whole hidan durability thing, I guess it is possible that hidan can tank some of her fuuton but as the damage builds up i see temari slicing him up.

 

[-Sky-]

Actually itachi has his whole robe in this scan before kirin[

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After kirin his akatsuki robe is completely

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Don't know if you can counter that as a example but you get my drift?( R.I.P Paul Walker). And yeah I get what your saying on the whole hidan durability thing, I guess it is possible that hidan can tank some of her fuuton but as the damage builds up i see temari slicing him up.

Yeah but.. Well, I guess I was referring to how certain areas just don't get exposed in battle. Lol

I've always figured it was more of a style thing that concerns clothing, not plot. I hate to bring up another series, but in DBZ, they'd get their shirts blown off in every battle, yet their pants would only get rips here and there. See what I'm saying?

I knew this clothes thing would get brought up, but Temari's Futon didn't exactly cut Tayuya's clothes off did it? xD

I just think clothes should be exempt in versus arguments. =/

 

[Zexion~]

lol What?

Temari shits on Hidan, she's an awful...awful matchup for him

 

[Booker]

I'm sorry to disappoint you. Yes, I firmly believe in what I'm saying here. I'm sorry if you don't like that.



Two things.

One: Pressure Damage disintegrated trees here:

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Yet Hidan was not hurt.

Two: Tayuya was hardly cut:

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So these two attacks showed trees getting destroyed. Correct? Yet Tayuya's body was actually pretty clear, however she was killed by getting crushed by the trees yes? So her body held up pretty well against Kiri Kiri Mae. And Hidan showed no bodily damage what so ever here:

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Even though pressure Damage is meant to crush opponents with intense pressure, hence the name. So yeah, that's why I think that.


So, if we want to hold this versus thread by real world logic, then sure, Temari wins. If we hold it by Kishimoto and NV logic, Hidan should have no trouble tanking. Just my opinion.





When have anyone's clothes been destroyed by any attack in this manga? (Completely)

X done.

Way too stubborn to debate against. Your opinion is not only wrong, it makes no sense. Futon Slashes >>>>> Kunai, as a Kunai can not cut through a tree trunk. Hidan was cut by a kunai. Using super simple, 3rd grade logic, we can deduce that an even stronger attack would not only do the same, but do it better.

And what would clothes not being destroed translate into? Plot/Censoring. That's exactly what it is. So you can cry plot/censoring whenever it comes to Hidan, but as soon as I flip it around on you it's unacceptable? Trash. Just as obviously as Kishi can't show a naked man dancing around in his manga, he can't show a little girl sliced into a dozen pieces of meat with blood and guts everywhere.

If you answer anything, just answer me this, it's all I care about you replying to:

How can Hidan be cut by something smaller and weaker, but not be cut by something larger and stronger?

Again, you can have your opinion, just know that it's wrong.

-Sky- Does provide a valid point to support his reasoning.. I give him that So I wouldn't say he is wrong on the matter.

Don't patronize him PC, you of all people should know if a kunai can cut Hidan there's nothing stopping A-Rank Futon from cutting him.

 

[Prince Charles]

X done.

Way too stubborn to debate against. Your opinion is not only wrong, it makes no sense. Futon Slashes >>>>> Kunai, as a Kunai can not cut through a tree trunk. Hidan was cut by a kunai. Using super simple, 3rd grade logic, we can deduce that an even stronger attack would not only do the same, but do it better.

And what would clothes not being destroed translate into? Plot/Censoring. That's exactly what it is. So you can cry plot/censoring whenever it comes to Hidan, but as soon as I flip it around on you it's unacceptable? Trash. Just as obviously as Kishi can't show a naked man dancing around in his manga, he can't show a little girl sliced into a dozen pieces of meat with blood and guts everywhere.

If you answer anything, just answer me this, it's all I care about you replying to:

How can Hidan be cut by something smaller and weaker, but not be cut by something larger and stronger?

Again, you can have your opinion, just know that it's wrong.



Don't patronize him PC, you of all people should know if a kunai can cut Hidan there's nothing stopping A-Rank Futon from cutting him.

What If I told you I was merely making him feel good about himself?

 

[Booker]

What If I told you I was merely making him feel good about himself?

Unacceptable, I'm in debate mode, no opponent gets to feel good about themselves.

 

[Prince Charles]

Unacceptable, I'm in debate mode, no opponent gets to feel good about themselves.

Oh? It seems your turnt up.

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@sky, you better make a counter~