Naruto and Madara vs Juubito

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Scenerio one: naruto and madara
Scenerio 2: they can combine ps and bsm and they can launch meteors, tbbs, ps slashes, but they most likely still lose



Edit: wait wouldn't madara be useless since he has no senjutsu?
 
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mindless obito ripped right through hashiramas most powerful attack didnt it? his chakra arms therefore would guard against anything naruto has
1. No, as Shinsuusenju was never used by Edo Hashirama.

2. His chakra arms had problems guarding from Rasengan and he needed a Bijuton (That's what I'm calling the black stuff) barrier to stop it, and even then couldn't completely block it. If you think Chakra Arms will save him from Senjutsu Bijuu Dama, then you have another thing coming. Mindless Obito stands no chance against someone as powerful as Naruto who utilizes Senjutsu.
 

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Current mads handily solos this with med diff at best. The boost from sage mode and the fact he can defend against juubito attacks make this child's play.
Together mads and nardo babyshake
 

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Weren't you one of those that didn't think sakura could release the yin seal? Oh right, you were. Look at how that obvious foreshadowing turned out.
1. Completely irrelevant to anything I just said.

2. I said Sakura can't use Byakugo, I never said she couldn't release the Yin Seal. Yin Seal Release is NOT the same as Byakugo.

Please tell me how Madara using chakra receivers to steal Sage Mode makes any sense at all, when the only thing they've ever been used for is controlling people and dead bodies? Anyone who can read the manga obviously knows that Madara is trying to control Hashirama, not steal Sage Mode, that doesn't even make sense let alone it being obvious.

Madara having Sage Mode is pure fanfiction and Madara stealing Sage Mode, with chakra receivers made for channeling the user's chakra no less, makes zero sense.
 

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1. Completely irrelevant to anything I just said.

2. I said Sakura can't use Byakugo, I never said she couldn't release the Yin Seal. Yin Seal Release is NOT the same as Byakugo.

Please tell me how Madara using chakra receivers to steal Sage Mode makes any sense at all, when the only thing they've ever been used for is controlling people and dead bodies? Anyone who can read the manga obviously knows that Madara is trying to control Hashirama, not steal Sage Mode, that doesn't even make sense let alone it being obvious.

Madara having Sage Mode is pure fanfiction and Madara stealing Sage Mode, with chakra receivers made for channeling the user's chakra no less, makes zero sense.
Oh, so you're one of those that believe she can't use it still even though tsunade called her a byakugo user? Well, that sounds like it makes sense...

Well, hey, that could be a possibility. You may be right. Only time will tell what kishi has in store for madara.
 

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Nahh...

A Rin'negan, Mokuton wielding Madara coated in a BM Cloak [+ 25 clones]. Chou-Shinra-Tensei eradicates that forest and negates all the Biju-Dama. Madara coats Naruto's chakra manifestation of the Kyuubi in his Perfrect Susano'o. Madara's clones take the position of K-11 [ ] and with four destruction incarnate Senjutsu enhanced swords [ ].
False on several occasions. To preempt on what your belief is based; you can't take an Obito into consideration, who started doubting his actions in the very last moment after several Talk no Jutsus of both Madara and Naruto, and his personal connections with latter. If not for that reason, Obito would have shattered them in that moment. They didn't stand a chance against him until this moment.

There are so many things Obito can do with them, while Senjutsu is in fact the only way to do something against his absolute defense, and yet is not a guarantee to handle him, as proven by him when defending himself against the with Senchakra enhanced attacks of BM Naruto and Sasuke's legged Susanoo, who got helplessly foderrized by him.

They would already fail before the Musekiyōjin, which was made to cage the alliance an tanked four Juubidamas effortlessly. From there on, Juubito will make use of his most powerful moves to trash them. Whether it is growing tendrils from inside the barrier to shot multiple Juubidamas in all directions, shot spheres of Omnyoton who possess a destructive radius similar to a Bijuu's Bijuudama or release the Shinju, which will immediately suck up their whole Chakra. When I talk about Obito's barrier, Madara's Shinra Tensei, no matter of how powerful it might be, will repel those Juubidamas but will never let them leave the barrier they were caged in. No matter of which scenarios you would consider happen, creating such a barrier will be always a safe step to Obito's win.

And even if Madara and Naruto were durable enough to survive a longer fight with Obito, latter is still in the position to activate Mugen Tsukuyomi, making it a countdown of 15 minutes until his autowin.

And even apart from the barrier, Juubidamas, Omnyoton and Shinsuu, Obito is in possession of Rikudo Sennin's Double-Helix-sword, which was hyped to be the item with which the world was "created", regressively able to destroy it. Obito claimed that this sword would lead to his absolute win, if not for his disbelief in that very last moment.

As for now, they both didn't show the power to even argue their win. A number of clones who use Susanoo and are enhanced with Kyuubi's Chakra, and not even the Rinnegan or perfect Susanoo (his so called strongest technique) will safe them from what Obito can do with them.
 

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As shown in the manga, Madara absorbs Senjutsu chakra from Nardo. With that, he summons black Zetsu from Obito's body and takes control of him. As stated, Senjutsu beats Obito and Madara said it that he could have beaten Obito with SM.

Team 1 low diff or rather SM Madara low diff.
 
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Oh, so you're one of those that believe she can't use it still even though tsunade called her a byakugo user? Well, that sounds like it makes sense...

Well, hey, that could be a possibility. You may be right. Only time will tell what kishi has in store for madara.
The Yin Seal is called the Byakugo seal, that's why she was called a Byakugo user. Tsunade said lets use the Byakugo together allowing them to summon 10% of the full Katsuyu, but no lines appeared on their skin, so she was only referring to the seal.
 

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False on several occasions. To preempt on what your belief is based; you can't take an Obito into consideration, who started doubting his actions in the very last moment after several Talk no Jutsus of both Madara and Naruto, and his personal connections with latter. If not for that reason, Obito would have shattered them in that moment. They didn't stand a chance against him until this moment.

There are so many things Obito can do with them, while Senjutsu is in fact the only way to do something against his absolute defense, and yet is not a guarantee to handle him, as proven by him when defending himself against the with Senchakra enhanced attacks of BM Naruto and Sasuke's legged Susanoo, who got helplessly foderrized by him.

They would already fail before the Musekiyōjin, which was made to cage the alliance an tanked four Juubidamas effortlessly. From there on, Juubito will make use of his most powerful moves to trash them. Whether it is growing tendrils from inside the barrier to shot multiple Juubidamas in all directions, shot spheres of Omnyoton who possess a destructive radius similar to a Bijuu's Bijuudama or release the Shinju, which will immediately suck up their whole Chakra. When I talk about Obito's barrier, Madara's Shinra Tensei, no matter of how powerful it might be, will repel those Juubidamas but will never let them leave the barrier they were caged in. No matter of which scenarios you would consider happen, creating such a barrier will be always a safe step to Obito's win.

And even if Madara and Naruto were durable enough to survive a longer fight with Obito, latter is still in the position to activate Mugen Tsukuyomi, making it a countdown of 15 minutes until his autowin.

And even apart from the barrier, Juubidamas, Omnyoton and Shinsuu, Obito is in possession of Rikudo Sennin's Double-Helix-sword, which was hyped to be the item with which the world was "created", regressively able to destroy it. Obito claimed that this sword would lead to his absolute win, if not for his disbelief in that very last moment.

As for now, they both didn't show the power to even argue their win. A number of clones who use Susanoo and are enhanced with Kyuubi's Chakra, and not even the Rinnegan or perfect Susanoo (his so called strongest technique) will safe them from what Obito can do with them.
A good argument as expected. I was wavering a bit when I constructed that post however I'll have to agree with you entirely, Strict. After-all Madara's resolve to take down the Obito in Scenario 2 was to use external factors [Black Zetsu, Hashirama's Senjutsu] as opposed to head-on battle. He may have known he would have lost on his own. We'll see if Madara and Naruto justifies Obito's power as Pesudo-Rikudo.

 
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Not by a long shot.

That was done on an Obito that just had the Juubi ripped from his body. Madara pretty much even admitted it wasn't possible previously. [ ][ ]​
 

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The Yin Seal is called the Byakugo seal, that's why she was called a Byakugo user. Tsunade said lets use the Byakugo together allowing them to summon 10% of the full Katsuyu, but no lines appeared on their skin, so she was only referring to the seal.
Keep fighting till your last breath. I'm sure it'll be less embarassing when the obvious happens.

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Current Madara.??? Where is current Madara feats.???
Somewhere within the past 100 chapters where he was tossing out mokuton, EMS and rinnegan moves. Oh, wait, people on here believe that people lose all their skill when the upgrade and they're now completely featless.
 

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Keep fighting till your last breath. I'm sure it'll be less embarassing when the obvious happens.
There's no fight here, just me stating manga facts and you stating fanfiction.

-Madara having Sage Mode is fanfiction.

-Sakura having Byakugo (Regeneration) is fanfiction.

You speak like there is evidence of the above two things being true even though there is zero evidence. Sakura having the seal doesn't automatically mean she has Byakugo, especially when you have to master Sozo Saisei first and she just got her seal yet you think she'll come out here and bust out Byakugo? Madara used chakra rods that control people (only thing they've been shown doing, not absorbing chakra let alone Senjutsu) against Hashirama saying he'll use his Sage power to beat Obito yet you think he's going to absorb his Sage Mode? With chakra rods no less? Rofl.

Logic pal..use it.
 
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