Marvel movies, thor?

[Wolfus]

Hi guys. So, I don't know if you guys even watched any of the recent marvel movies that features Thor(god of thunder) (thor 1, avengers, thor the dark world) or if you have ever read the comics, but for those who have, i got a question, something that actually bothers me too much:

Did you guys notice how thor is nerfed(weakened) in the marvel cinematic universe? I mean, his punches are much less stronger than usual, his lightings are less powerful, he has less durability, etc. In the avengers movies, he strugles with iron man! In the comics, he was able to one shot the iron man, making the circuits of the armor useless.
Thor's strength can also match the hulk's, but in the movies, the hulk seemed physically stronger, much more stronger than Thor.
Here's a video with some of thor's feats, though it's not that much canon, it's quite loyal to the comics, in case you wanna check it out.

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I really like Thor, so it's a pain to see a much more weaker version of him in the movies.

 

[Bimbonium]

Thor in avengers was super weak

 

[LazyNacho]

i wasn't the only one that noticed? story writers need some explaining to do!

 

[Timolrickx]

The movies wouldn't be fun anymore if Thor would rape everybody and the rest of the Avengers become useless.
Im sorry to say this - I really like if Comics and Movies get along, but actually that would kill the fun in an 90 Minute movie.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

It for plot to add conflict to make it entertaining. In the comics he one shotted a bunch of people, that's no fun to watch.

Also the hulk is stronger than thor, this has been proven many times throughout the comics.

 

[Wolfus]

It for plot to add conflict to make it entertaining. In the comics he one shotted a bunch of people, that's no fun to watch.

Also the hulk is stronger than thor, this has been proven many times throughout the comics.

At very best, they're equal, or thor is strong. In the classic comics, hulk had to blackmail thor in order to make him drop the mjolnir, but yet, the hulk said it himself "why can't hulk beat you". They were even in strength, the hulk gettind angrier, but thor holding his ground. In the end, the hulk left the battle.
There were events in which thor defeated the hulk more than once, but the hulk has also defeated thor.
In fear itself, thor beat a powered hulk(powered by the serpent, the one that rivals even odin). Of course, the hulk has beat thor before as well.

Let's not forget that odin stated that thor has never tapped into his full potential. Not only that, but Stan lee himself said that, in the creation of thor, he thought "how do you make someone stronger than the strongest of the world(hulk) Simple, don't make him human".
And thor has much more than strength, let's not forget that.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

At very best, they're equal, or thor is strong. In the classic comics, hulk had to blackmail thor in order to make him drop the mjolnir, but yet, the hulk said it himself "why can't hulk beat you". They were even in strength, the hulk gettind angrier, but thor holding his ground. In the end, the hulk left the battle.
There were events in which thor defeated the hulk more than once, but the hulk has also defeated thor.
In fear itself, thor beat a powered hulk(powered by the serpent, the one that rivals even odin). Of course, the hulk has beat thor before as well.

Let's not forget that odin stated that thor has never tapped into his full potential. Not only that, but Stan lee himself said that, in the creation of thor, he thought "how do you make someone stronger than the strongest of the world(hulk) Simple, don't make him human".
And thor has much more than strength, let's not forget that.

I'm not saying that thor isn't strong, I'm just saying that the hulk is slightly stronger and is more durable. He can fight forever, even when thor did win it was because the hulk made the choice to end the fight. He never made the hulk submit to my knowledge.

Also about 80% of hulk vs the avengers fights thor had help and still could barely take him down. That's why after a while they just had him sent to another planet. He was too much.

Their strength is highly debatable though, I've had this discussion many times.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Yes Thor was very much weakened in the movies yet seemed quite strong, they just big up ironman cause everyone loves him and that bit in the movie when he hits caps shield and cap is still standing I call bull cause even though the shield can absorb vibrations is indistuctible and yada yada yada Thor would put him in the ground. Thor is meant to be like superman at least that was my understanding yet in the movie he was avoiding fighter jet fire? So yes I agree they need to shape up but even with all that I love Thor in the movies and I can't wait for another (smashes glass)

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Also hulk is strongest their is no debate about it

 

[Jack Spicer]

It's no big deal. Thor's a beast in any universe.

 

[Wolfus]

I'm not saying that thor isn't strong, I'm just saying that the hulk is slightly stronger and is more durable. He can fight forever, even when thor did win it was because the hulk made the choice to end the fight. He never made the hulk submit to my knowledge.

Also about 80% of hulk vs the avengers fights thor had help and still could barely take him down. That's why after a while they just had him sent to another planet. He was too much.

But that's the thing. They're even, and if they're not, thor is stronger. First, the hulk ended the battle because he saw he couldn't take thor down. Second, thor has defeated the hulk and KO'ed him. Classic thor did it. In fear itself, a tired thor took down what might be the strongest version of the hulk, nul.
Even Stan Lee created thor to be stronger. But the problem is PIS. Some writters like the Hulk more, and the hulk has more fans, so the hulk has to win sometimes, because the fans would get pissed if thor really showed his power against the hulk.

 

[Wolfus]

Also hulk is strongest their is no debate about it

Read my 2 replies to fiddstx, and you'll se that that's not true. Unless of course you'rel talking about the cinematic universe, then there's no debate.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

But that's the thing. They're even, and if they're not, thor is stronger. First, the hulk ended the battle because he saw he couldn't take thor down. Second, thor has defeated the hulk and KO'ed him. Classic thor did it. In fear itself, a tired thor took down what might be the strongest version of the hulk, nul.
Even Stan Lee created thor to be stronger. But the problem is PIS. Some writters like the Hulk more, and the hulk has more fans, so the hulk has to win sometimes, because the fans would get pissed if thor really showed his power against the hulk.

Classic thor never fought the hulk though. They only fought in the avengers comics.

Also it does depend on the writer but in the avenger comics it was always the hulk vs the avengers. Thor wasn't fighting solo.

 

[Wolfus]

Classic thor never fought the hulk though. They only fought in the avengers comics.

Also it does depends on the writer but in the avenger comics it was always the hulk vs the avengers. Thor wasn't fighting solo.

Oh, classic thor did fight the hulk.

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These are just some scans. Thor has fought him alone. Not only in the avengers comics, but in thor's comics and in hulk's as well.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Read my 2 replies to fiddstx, and you'll se that that's not true. Unless of course you'rel talking about the cinematic universe, then there's no debate.

Wow I know a lot about the marvel universe but that's without reading comics lol and I always knew that hulk was stronger and that he was the strongest physically from marvel guess I was wrong. So I'm wondering how can Thor match hulks strength when hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets? P.s so how powerful is Thor?

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Oh, classic thor did fight the hulk.

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These are just some scans. Thor has fought him alone. Not only in the avengers comics, but in thor's comics and in hulk's as well.

Oh wow you're right, I haven't read those issues. I'll have to check them out.

But of course thor would win in his own comic. That's how it goes.

 

[Wolfus]

Wow I know a lot about the marvel universe but that's without reading comics lol and I always knew that hulk was stronger and that he was the strongest physically from marvel guess I was wrong. So I'm wondering how can Thor match hulks strength when hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets? P.s so how powerful is Thor?

Well, odin did state once that thor has never tapped into his full potential. He just doesn't go out while in earth.

 

[Wolfus]

Oh wow you're right, I haven't read those issues. I'll have to check them out.

But of course thor would win in his own comic. That's how it goes.

The classic comics were more fair. In both comics, they were even.
There is this battle here

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Thor KO'ed the hulk, though I dodn't know in which comic it happened. The thing about the writters and the fans(money) will always step in the way, so we'll never actually see a full canon battle between those 2.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Well, odin did state once that thor has never tapped into his full potential. He just doesn't go out while in earth.

Who knew, I followed your link got to the avengers show that was great shame they got rid of it for the trash show they call avengers now and use it to fuel their movie universe. Its very childish I decided to watch an episode yesterday while it was on TV and some superman type guy was whooping them around new york then to conclude the avengers winning their counter attack was a surprise attack fro. Thor combined with The hul grabbing the guy and spanning him on floor what utter rubbish that guy would really get up and whoop them some more but its for kids so what the hell who cares right? Also could you please post some more awesome Thor scans showing some impressive feats and do you have any of Odin powered Thor?

 

[Wolfus]

Who knew, I followed your link got to the avengers show that was great shame they got rid of it for the trash show they call avengers now and use it to fuel their movie universe. Its very childish I decided to watch an episode yesterday while it was on TV and some superman type guy was whooping them around new york then to conclude the avengers winning their counter attack was a surprise attack fro. Thor combined with The hul grabbing the guy and spanning him on floor what utter rubbish that guy would really get up and whoop them some more but its for kids so what the hell who cares right? Also could you please post some more awesome Thor scans showing some impressive feats and do you have any of Odin powered Thor?

Ikr? Seriosly, avengers EMH was so great. Awesome characters, great char development, great art and animation. The plot was just fantastic and very loyal to the comics. One of the greatest shows I've ever watched.
This avengers assemble, however, is just... wow. It sucks. I've saw that episode you speak of. So lame.

If you wanna se more of thor, see all the episodes of avengers EMH. It's worth the time.
Now, if you wanna read the comics, I suggest you read "siege"(try downloading everything, I've read once and I really liked it. You'll see a lot of odinforce thor.
Fear itself is also really nice, but you can stick to the main event.
My favorite thor arc is the ragnarok one, in which he becomes rune king thor. Awesome plot.

I had the 3 of them, but that was on my old computer. But you'll like to read it.