Neji> Sakura and Tsunade w/o the Katsuya (Shots fired)

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Yes this is the case for those of your against and your about to find out why. I dont mean Sakura and Tsunade Simultaneously


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Byakugo

Lets start with the "Almighty" byakugo that people like to bring up.

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Mitotic meaning on a cellular level. Mitosis in other words cell division. She regenerates faster. I'm describing this for the ignorant people just in case they try to fabricate nonsense. This is IN NO WAY a counter for the Juken style.

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By Damaging their chakra system and the internal organs this is the perfect counter for Tsunades trump card because by blocking the chakra network she cannot use the jutsu to then heal because she doesn't have the chakra necessary to heal it!

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So no matter what Tsunade plans to do with Byakugo she will find herself not being able to do so due to the effects.

64 palms
Since this BLOCKS the chakra points its not doing any form of damage this time. Therefore Tsunade cannot heal from this attack. And then left with no chakra to use and stunned. Even if She does find a way to stand up from the effects she still cant use any chakra. And remember she cant use Byakugo either because the juken disable this jutsu.

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These strikes look rather simultaneous to me and although this obviously isn't the case this scan connotes incredible speed and keeping in mind this is part 1 Neji. Yes, Tsunade being a medical ninja is trained on evasion but that skill can only get you so far an she nor Sakura have shown that they can dodge something of this speed.

Yin seal bandwagon for 64 palms

The only reason naruto was able to escape 64 pal effects is because he had kyyubi chakra with him. "2 type of chakra" . The kyyubi being a whole different chakra source allowed him to break the effect of 64 palms and supplied him with more chakra. This is different from Yin seal since yin seal is a non factor here. Kurama's chakra is much stronger than normal chakra and using manga facts yin seal is only a storage of chakra and its also normal chakra.
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She said HER chakra which enforces my point that its normal chakra and not some almighty powerful chakra.

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Hakkeshou kaiten
If Tsunade were to get almost get a punch on Neji then even at the closest range Neji can repel her punch.
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and since its rotating chakra she has no chance of actually breaking a rotation defence. Its like trying to grab a round about at 40mph She gets blown away and it is stated to be an absolute defence. Although it has a hint of hype in it the function of the move back that hype up.

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This means no pre-emptive strikes or surprise attacks from Tsunade and it even senses attacks meaning a sense of prediction. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it has sharingan qualities but in order to sense the attack coming he has even more chance to evade any attack Tsunade has. And with this he can also see the yin seal so when they start fighting he is aware of her stored away chakra.

Air palm/Vacuum palm

Tsuande has evasion skills as people like to boldly point out but you cant dodge what you cant see. This means Tsunade cannot see the air palm or vacuum palm coming hence why she will not be able to dodge it. Sending her flying back this is both offensive and defensive. If any moves liek this are aimed at her brain then she wont necessarily die but the fight would be entirely in Nejis favour because brains have no cells to regenerate, once they die they die.


Databook quoter's, this is for you

And of course we have the people who like to grind on the Databook :) i got something for you too!! don't worry your not forgotten.

Yes Tsunade has 5 In taijutsu however when it comes to speed

Neji: 4.5
Tsunade: 3.5

Tsunde has 4 in stamina while neji has 4 so people who say she outlast neji by miles are incorrect. Given the juken ability Neji has more edge over this fight.

Shock waves aint killing neji either as he tanked most of Kidomarus attacks with holes in his body.

All in all Neji takes this high diff

 
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obvious and katsuyu is a non factor as well given that she is highly dependant on the chakra of the summoner as should when she was healing the five kage and tsunade was weaken so her healing process was slow.
 

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Are you saying at the same time??

I agree either way
 

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obvious and katsuyu is a non factor as well given that she is highly dependant on the chakra of the summoner as should when she was healing the five kage and tsunade was weaken so her healing process was slow.

And there is this but im not 100% sure about this

Are you saying at the same time??

I agree either way

Nope, i mean separately. I dont know about at the same time though...
 

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all they have to do is punch the ground once neji gets close, he dies from the shock wave :|
 

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Last I checked Tsunade and Sakura are still alive.
 

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all they have to do is punch the ground once neji gets close, he dies from the shock wave :|

you obviously didn't read the thread :|

Last I checked Tsunade and Sakura are still alive.

Last time i checked Neji doesn't have heal jutsu. Sakura would be dead w/o chiyo and Tsunade would have died in part one if it wasnt for creation rebirth
 
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all they have to do is punch the ground once neji gets close, he dies from the shock wave :|

Nope.
Because Neji has this thing called the byakugan and will see there movements and jsut use his palm rotation to subside the shock wave.
 

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As I said, Tsunade can just hurl logs and massive boulders at him ( It's killed him before LOL ).
Sakura does the same from his blind spot.
 

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As I said, Tsunade can just hurl logs and massive boulders at him ( It's killed him before LOL ).
Sakura does the same from his blind spot.


Sakura is not just going find his blind spot out of nowhere lol
Unlike sakura Neji can fight at any distance and has actual justu suited for combat if you honestly think sakura can win this with brute strength alone then you have no idea what your talking about.
 

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Nope.
Because Neji has this thing called the byakugan and will see there movements and jsut use his palm rotation to subside the shock wave.

Thank you , i said this in the thread thats the funny thing

As I said, Tsunade can just hurl logs and massive boulders at him ( It's killed him before LOL ).
Sakura does the same from his blind spot.

she don't know about his blind :| now your just being an idiot, it killed him because he jumped in front of hinata
 

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Sakura is not just going find his blind spot out of nowhere lol
Unlike sakura Neji can fight at any distance and has actual justu suited for combat if you honestly think sakura can win this with brute strength alone then you have no idea what your talking about.

Are you unable to read or did you just skip my comment because it solo'd your fav :s?

They can both hurl things much to large for Neji to block, his Rotation isn't stopping a 25 tonne block of stone from 2 directions.
Sorry.
 

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Are you unable to read or did you just skip my comment because it solo'd your fav :s?

They can both hurl things much to large for Neji to block, his Rotation isn't stopping a 25 tonne block of stone from 2 directions.
Sorry.

Its not a simultaneous fight and there's such thing called dodging and byakugan. GG
 

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Neji getting killed by a shockwave, any proof that a shockwave killed anyone ever?
 

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I agree wiht you mate i've always supported this idea, i was in a Hiashi vs Tsunade thread supporting Hiashi then another member countered for Tsunade; i said i would counter it but then i was like **** it that's massive wall of text contains 67 different scenarios and physics maths calcs that even Kishi himself does not know a thing about.

About Tsunade punching the ground i would like to point these out:


Neji is resistent to assault, an indirect force like punching the ground is not making a major harm enough to stop him, he even covered a good distance and continued fighting after that beating:



 

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Are you unable to read or did you just skip my comment because it solo'd your fav :s?

They can both hurl things much to large for Neji to block, his Rotation isn't stopping a 25 tonne block of stone from 2 directions.
Sorry.

1.Neji is not my favorite character so nice logic there.

2.While sakura picks up a stone you think neji just stands there ?
Are you retarded ? lol

Its called air palm.By the time she picks it up it will be half its size because neji would be breaking it apart from a distance and then break the rest with palm rotation or get this move back some more.

Are you not familiar with physics ?

Repeated attacks by the air palm directed to the middle of the stone slab would cause it to crack and the stone slab would lose its overall weight since the core of it would be dismantled.

Even if he just aimed at the part she picked up would cause it to collapse under itself.

Picking up a heavy rock would do nothing to beat neji.
 

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A shockwave is not killing Neji when he fought with 2 holes in his chest area.
 

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I agree wiht you mate i've always supported this idea, i was in a Hiashi vs Tsunade thread supporting Hiashi then another member countered for Tsunade; i said i would counter it but then i was like **** it that's massive wall of text contains 67 different scenarios and physics maths calcs that even Kishi himself does not know a thing about.

About Tsunade punching the ground i would like to point these out:


Neji is resistent to assault, an indirect force like punching the ground is not making a major harm enough to stop him, he even covered a good distance and continued fighting after that beating:




Thanks mate :) and they want to scare you off with the size but 70% of it is irrelavant info or biased and false info. People use that featless shockwave ass a counter but that in common sense should tell them that its not doing anything to Neji
 
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