She said she sensed identical chakra everywhere but she never show that she can know the real one
Also if you are talking about danzo she meant if he was using A shadow clone she will know and find the other identical chakra . (but since there was only one chakra source and she didn't sense another she can tell he is not using one )
Naruto can't tell dark chakra though. Nor can he tell when someone is in genjutsu by sensing. You can call them normal sensing feats but Naruto can't do it. I didn't say that's what made her the best, it's the fact that her sensing is more versatile. She's more skilled as a sensor than Naruto is which is natural sense he just started with it.
Feats of what exactly? I'm not spouting BS so you need to specify what you're talking about and I'll prove it for you. And having good reflexes is not the same thing as predicting moves. The Sharingan predicts moves, it can tell the next move the user will make while SM heightens reflexes and lets the user know when an attack is coming, not specifically what attack. It's different, I can't help you if you can't understand that. Naruto has better range while Karin sensing feats are far more versatile than Naruto.
Naruto was able to SEE the alliance and sakura from far island .like he is with them .
Karin is just commentary . When there isn't sensor around they will be able to do the same feats (like feeling the dark chakra/the high chakra level)
Her best feat is when she detected the konoha 11 but she needed to do hand seal to focus and know their place (they were close sakura passed right infront of her)
Feats of what exactly? I'm not spouting BS so you need to specify what you're talking about and I'll prove it for you. And having good reflexes is not the same thing as predicting moves. The Sharingan predicts moves, it can tell the next move the user will make while SM heightens reflexes and lets the user know when an attack is coming, not specifically what attack. It's different, I can't help you if you can't understand that. Naruto has better range while Karin sensing feats are far more versatile than Naruto.
Naruto was able to SEE the alliance and sakura from far island .like he is with them .
Karin is just commentary . When there isn't sensor around they will be able to do the same feats (like feeling the dark chakra/the high chakra level)
Her best feat is when she detected the konoha 11 but she needed to do hand seal to focus and know their place (they were close sakura passed right infront of her)
I've already admitted that Naruto has a better range, that's proven with the island thing. This isn't about who has the best sensing feats. That's like saying who has a stronger technique. Karin is more skilled in sensing than Naruto, Naruto hasn't shown he can do everything Karin does to the extent she does. The only thing Naruto has on Karin is higher sensing range and negative emotion. The things that Karin can do that you're saying any sensor can do is funny because Naruto can't do it himself. So if anything, you're making Naruto look like a joke. She's easily more versatile, making her more skilled, making her the better sensor. It's that simple
Edit: Oh and saying Karin uses hand seals in an attempt to downplay is messed up. That would be like me saying Naruto has to go into different modes in order to use his sensory skills.
So you just don't know how to read is that it? I've already been over this. And Naruto sensed the Gold and Silver brothers using the Kyuubi's chakra, a chakra he's extremely familiar with. That's not an equal feat to Karin who sensed similar chakra that wasn't hers. She was able to sense the chakra of the exact number of people who were a distance away from her and was able to sense that she was being followed by ninja hounds.
I've already admitted that Naruto has a better range, that's proven with the island thing. This isn't about who has the best sensing feats. That's like saying who has a stronger technique. Karin is more skilled in sensing than Naruto, Naruto hasn't shown he can do everything Karin does to the extent she does. The only thing Naruto has on Karin is higher sensing range and negative emotion. The things that Karin can do that you're saying any sensor can do is funny because Naruto can't do it himself. So if anything, you're making Naruto look like a joke. She's easily more versatile, making her more skilled, making her the better sensor. It's that simple
Edit: Oh and saying Karin uses hand seals in an attempt to downplay is messed up. That would be like me saying Naruto has to go into different modes in order to use his sensory skills.
So you just don't know how to read is that it? I've already been over this. And Naruto sensed the Gold and Silver brothers using the Kyuubi's chakra, a chakra he's extremely familiar with. That's not an equal feat to Karin who sensed similar chakra that wasn't hers. She was able to sense the chakra of the exact number of people who were a distance away from her and was able to sense that she was being followed by ninja hounds.
No karin only sensed that there is many people but not the EXACT number (she does sense the number in a filler though)
Theres few people who sensed the EXACT Number
-ino
-minato
I think there is more but that what i remember
Also naruto was able to notice the disappearing of the people chakra (who died in pein arc )
And he knew exactly what was missing from the whole village (kakashi) .
That is something karin never did in larger scale (she could sense sasuke chakra gone but not an entire village)
Thats another thing naruto better at .
So he is better at
1-longer scale
2-see the exact people like he is in the place .so he can tell the difference between animal and human like karin
3-neg emotions
4-can sense a whole village villagers chakra in sm
What karin is better at
1-she can sense the dark chakra.
2-sense she is followed
Hmm i think naruto is better .
He isn't use to it as karin though . Karin was a sensor all the time but naruto just got the ability but he is still better .
No karin only sensed that there is many people but not the EXACT number (she does sense the number in a filler though)
Theres few people who sensed the EXACT Number
-ino
-minato
I think there is more but that what i remember
Also naruto was able to notice the disappearing of the people chakra (who died in pein arc )
And he knew exactly what was missing from the whole village (kakashi) .
That is something karin never did in larger scale (she could sense sasuke chakra gone but not an entire village)
Thats another thing naruto better at .
So he is better at
1-longer scale
2-see the exact people like he is in the place .so he can tell the difference between animal and human like karin
3-neg emotions
4-can sense a whole village villagers chakra in sm
What karin is better at
1-she can sense the dark chakra.
2-sense she is followed
Hmm i think naruto is better .
He isn't use to it as karin though . Karin was a sensor all the time but naruto just got the ability but he is still better .
Karin senses without having to mold chakra. That alone puts her over every other sensor shown thus far in the manga. The only time she can't sense is when she's hiding her chakra signature, a feat only shown by muu.
And b4 you bring up kisame (supposedly) hiding his chakra he wasn't. He had samehada for so long the swords chakra signature became exactly like his.
Negative emotion sensing only works on those with negative emotions.While karin can sense the type of chakra u have and can even associate it with your personality(like she did with sasuke, suigetsu, and naruto) she was even able to sense kurama inside of naruto despite him not being active. Something tobirama couldn't didnt do when minato(who also has kurama ) was right there.
As for the whole village range thing. She sensed sasuke even though he was at the outskirts of the village, and chances are she is the one who lead oro and co to the gokage.
Naruto is. Tobirama's sensory abilities are passiv when Naruto's aren't. Naruto is also the only one capable to detect people through their negative intent, something that made him the only one capable to detect white Zetsus during this war
Karin senses without having to mold chakra. That alone puts her over every other sensor shown thus far in the manga. The only time she can't sense is when she's hiding her chakra signature, a feat only shown by muu.
And b4 you bring up kisame (supposedly) hiding his chakra he wasn't. He had samehada for so long the swords chakra signature became exactly like his.
Negative emotion sensing only works on those with negative emotions.While karin can sense the type of chakra u have and can even associate it with your personality(like she did with sasuke, suigetsu, and naruto) she was even able to sense kurama inside of naruto despite him not being active. Something tobirama couldn't didnt do when minato(who also has kurama ) was right there.
As for the whole village range thing. She sensed sasuke even though he was at the outskirts of the village, and chances are she is the one who lead oro and co to the gokage.
1-jugo lead sasuke and went with him
He knew madara place and what he did through the bird (this is how sasuke knew about Madara)
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2-orochimaru absorbed the information from kabuto he knows everything about the war so ofcourse he know about the kages .
^^^ its not karin
The nature/type of chakra was sensed by others not only karin
Ino once sensed the evil chakra of kakauzu
Ino also sensed the difference between sasuke normal chakra and dark chakra
Ino feats were without molding chakra she did it naturally again karin isn't the only one who can do that .
And karin mold her chakra and make a seal to detect people sometimes .
The time with sasuke she saw the deidara explosion and she knew that where sasuke was than she used the seal to detect His chakra (but she couldn't sense him because summoning space time jutsu)
Its not like karin sense sasuke chakra all the time she sensed him without molding chakra when he was NEAR like any other sensor but when she wants to sense him from far away she needs a hand seal
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The time with sasuke vs mei she saw him with her eyes disappearing and she didn't sense his chakra existence anymore
Its normal any sensor would feel the same Again if she was near she will automatically sense him without molding chakra like ino .
BSM sensing is so OP. Naruto becomes near omniscient at that point lmao.
Seriously, he was capable of keeping up with Obito with just his senses. Karin's sensing = SM sensing quite honestly. Adding BM sensing places Naruto above all others.