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I'm thinking Edo's are simply not as strong as they are when they're alive. Which would make sense anyway since it's kinda unfair for all the Edo's being revived at full strength and be able to regenerate. It's too advantageous to me. So maybe now that he's alive, he's at full strength. Plus the thrill of actually being alive probably gives him more of a kick because he seems more passionate than we've ever seen him in the last panel all series.
 

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And why would the Edo body only allow for that 1000 gallons? It has been stressed multiple times that a living body can only expend and house so much chakra, but Edos have unlimited chakra and don't need to worry about chakra exhaustion. You have the facts backwards.

Because he had a limited chakra capacity in Edo, you could see that when he made clones, his chakra divided by 50, and the clones didn't have full susanoo. if he had infinite non chakra capacity, he would make 10000 clones with perfect susanoo
 

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Alive Madara is stronger, but as the fight drags on he will naturally become fatigued.

Being alive has it's pros and cons.
 

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This shouldn't be problem for Madara since his Edo is "special"

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All Kabuto did was re-engineer his genes so he would be revived into a younger body.

Adding Senju DNA only added Mokuton and RG to his arsenal, but Edo's limits means his raw power is still restricted, as Tobirama stated.
 

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He's saying that it has a limit but it replenishes itself. eg. A 1000 gallon tank of chakra can't use a jutsu that requires 1100 gallons but it can use one worth 900 gallons as long as it wants.

Thanks bro :D exactly, I imagine perfect Izanagi would require far more chakra like madara+tailed beast. make nothing into something like object or new jutsu.

I'm thinking Edo's are simply not as strong as they are when they're alive. Which would make sense anyway since it's kinda unfair for all the Edo's being revived at full strength and be able to regenerate. It's too advantageous to me. So maybe now that he's alive, he's at full strength. Plus the thrill of actually being alive probably gives him more of a kick because he seems more passionate than we've ever seen him in the last panel all series.

true feelings may add abit to his skill & chakra but only minimum improvment there, i mean now he is alive and suck chakra from tailed beast or people from people

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If Madara claims he is feeling stronger there is nothing to disagree about. Tobirama noted that Edo Tensei doesn't bring you back to your full strength so I guess Madara should be alot stronger now being in an alive state. Granted Madara still has lost the benefits of Edo tensei so in a way he's also weaker.
 

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true feelings may add abit to his skill & chakra but only minimum improvment there, i mean now he is alive and suck chakra from tailed beast or people from people

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I agree, it will only add minimum improvement. I wouldn't accredit Madara White Zetsu's skills just yet. I think he has something else up his sleeve, I don't think Madara plans on stopping at just being alive.
 

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Because he had a limited chakra capacity in Edo, you could see that when he made clones, his chakra divided by 50, and the clones didn't have full susanoo. if he had infinite non chakra capacity, he would make 10000 clones with perfect susanoo

Edos have "undying bodies and infinite chakra". What youre saying is just false, Edo Madara had no limited capacity.
 

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All Kabuto did was re-engineer his genes so he would be revived into a younger body.

Adding Senju DNA only added Mokuton and RG to his arsenal, but Edo's limits means his raw power is still restricted, as Tobirama stated.

No he said " I made you better than you were in your GOLDEN AGE" which mean he made him better than his last fight with Hashirama. He is a perfect Edo, with wood release rinnegan EMS.
 

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Madara has more Hype than Hiruzen... First the Trump card now this...
 

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If Madara claims he is feeling stronger there is nothing to disagree about. Tobirama noted that Edo Tensei doesn't bring you back to your full strength so I guess Madara should be alot stronger now being in an alive state. Granted Madara still has lost the benefits of Edo tensei so in a way he's also weaker.

He is not weaker, manga state otherwise. chakra capacity increased. He was a perfect Edo, Kabuto stated that. Downfall is he have to avoid attack, and not be careless like he was against the 5 kages


I agree, it will only add minimum improvement. I wouldn't accredit Madara White Zetsu's skills just yet. I think he has something else up his sleeve, I don't think Madara plans on stopping at just being alive.

Edos have "undying bodies and infinite chakra". What youre saying is just false, Edo Madara had no limited capacity.

Logic would prove otherwise, all edo's have limited capacity of chakra.

what you are saying that Edos have no limited capacity, which means Hashirama can make 10 Shin Sūsenju since no limited capacity.
 

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I agree, it will only add minimum improvement. I wouldn't accredit Madara White Zetsu's skills just yet. I think he has something else up his sleeve, I don't think Madara plans on stopping at just being alive.

true, i magine new jutsu since chakra capacity increased or seal a tailed beast inside of him

Madara has more Hype than Hiruzen... First the Trump card now this...

because he deserve it,
1) mastermind behind the moon eye plan
2) the only one after SO6P to awaken rinnegan
3) most advanced ninjutsu user ever
4) his plans always come to succes so far
5) always planing 5 steps ahead
6) what else?
 

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Tobirama already stated that the Edo tenseis were not brought back too there full strength. He told orochimaru if I remember correctly that we are almost at are full strength so out of 100% they were probably at 75% but with an undying body it would seem 100% but actually not.
 

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Edos have "undying bodies and infinite chakra". What youre saying is just false, Edo Madara had no limited capacity.

no.. they can USE a unlimited amount of chakra.
BUT here's the catch: if their capacity is 10, they can never go beyond 10.
so if for example kisame would be summoned, he could not extend his chakra pool by taking other peaples's chakra.
it is very very safe to assume that madara is at a HUGE disatvantage chakra-wise compared to his opponents.. but now he can use for example the wood dragon to gather chakra from his enemies and thus grow strength wise to say a capacity of 20, allowing for way bigger jutsu.
 

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if madara was weaker now then why would the greatest mastermind want to be revived in a situation like this??? madara is smart enough to knw what he's up against but still chose to do it and even smirked and grinned about it his counter attack...u guys underestimate the ferocity of madara uchiha and for one thing edo's fight reckless because they cannot be killed or feel pain...madara will surely fight flawlessly knowing he can face death again...and he said finally he can fight as if edo tensei was holding him back
 

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Tobirama already stated that the Edo tenseis were not brought back too there full strength. He told orochimaru if I remember correctly that we are almost at are full strength so out of 100% they were probably at 75% but with an undying body it would seem 100% but actually not.

Kabuto state otherwise, Madara's edo is a perfect edo.

He was made better than his GOLDEN AGE, like what better form can he be in? and told him to show the legendary power of the uchiha, which mean he was far more than perfect, yet the chakra capacity is the only error, since if a jutsu require more than 1000 gallons of chakra he can't perform it.
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no.. they can USE a unlimited amount of chakra.
BUT here's the catch: if their capacity is 10, they can never go beyond 10.
so if for example kisame would be summoned, he could not extend his chakra pool by taking other peaples's chakra.
it is very very safe to assume that madara is at a HUGE disatvantage chakra-wise compared to his opponents.. but now he can use for example the wood dragon to gather chakra from his enemies and thus grow strength wise to say a capacity of 20, allowing for way bigger jutsu.

thanks, this, this and this. its simple logic, if madara had no capacity he would had made 50 clones with perfect susanoo on each one of them, against the kages, but he couldn't because "his chakra capacity is divided by 50.

1000 gallons of chakra divided by 50 = 20..... and a perfect susanoo require forexample 800 gallons of chakra
 

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no.. they can USE a unlimited amount of chakra.
BUT here's the catch: if their capacity is 10, they can never go beyond 10.
so if for example kisame would be summoned, he could not extend his chakra pool by taking other peaples's chakra.
it is very very safe to assume that madara is at a HUGE disatvantage chakra-wise compared to his opponents.. but now he can use for example the wood dragon to gather chakra from his enemies and thus grow strength wise to say a capacity of 20, allowing for way bigger jutsu.

dnt forget he can use preta path too, hashirama's wood dragon stopped the use of preta path once it got a hold on madara once madara was/is free the wood dragon can no longer sap his chakra and render preta path useless...but anyway madara has one of the largest chakra supplies ever so chakra wont be a problem, and its no telling if he has acquired as much chakra as hashirama after gaining his dna, which would makes since and hashirama has more chakra than naruto, he even said that boy has almost as much chakra as me, so if madara has hashirama chakra level because of acquiring hashi's dna then he aint trippin bout chakra
 
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I doubt that!

Example at AB combo:
(1) EDO MADARA hits AB combo - nothing happens
(2) ALIVE MADARA hits AB combo - he needs KAKUSU to repair his head
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