Waking up the NarutoBase! : Kabuto > Naruto

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It's time. The moment Kabuto waited for...

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Kabuto is finally completed, fully obtaining Orochimaru's powers, and more! He is ready to face Naruto, just as he promised.​

Condition of Battle:​
  • Both in perfect condition
  • Intel: Manga
  • Location:
  • Mindset: Defeating In Character
  • Naruto cannot be in SM and BM at the same time, can only switch like this [ ]
  • Conditions will start both facing each other, from Base feats-Up: I will be breaking down their moves from there.
  • Hypothetical feat will be added via Orochimaru (At the end)

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Base:

-Kabuto knowing how much Naruto improve, through out the war, well begin to absorb natural energy passively, as his only result to compete with Naruto.
-Due to Naruto's training at Mount Myoboku, he can see nature dwelling inside Kabuto, like all users who can use natural energy[ ](<--Example of Gamakichi seeing it).
-Knowing the threats of absorbing natural energy, Naruto will send out his Kage Bushin to stop him. Not only will it benefit Naruto to try and cancel Kabuto from absorbing Nature, but can begin to unlock his next move, and gain some knowledge from Kabuto [ ].
-Little does Naruto know, because Kabuto's research on Juugo, Kabuto is able to move while passively absorbing natural energy. With that Kabuto can take out the Kage Bushins with his CQC skills.
-Kabuto's CQC: Chakra Scalpel, , and . This can take his Bushins with ease.
-Naruto may have entered SM at that point, and prepares a FRS to throw. Once thrown, Kabuto can attempt to move out the way, will only just expand, cutting him in half [ ]. At the end of the day, cutting Kabuto is futile, the moment he gets cut, he can convert the damage into liquid ASAP [ ].
-At this point Naruto is too late, Kabuto will enter Sage Mode.
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Official Battle Peak:

-Naruto will now face Kabuto at his highest peak, Beast Mode...
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-Kurama of course gives him the warning, he has 8-10 minutes/X variable Time Limit (The time has improved every chapter) to finish this off.[ ].
-Naruto's options to finish Kabuto off at this point is:
  • Clones (BM, KM, or SM)
  • Direct hit FRS
  • Buijuudama/Continuous
  • Chakra arms
  • Summon Support

-Kabuto at this point prepares the Sound 5 jutsus, to deal with Kurama's overwhelming power [ ]​

Dealing With New Profound Clones​

-Naruto has two to three options of clones to use, Kyuubi or Sage.

-If attempting to use Sage Clone, BM can throw one to Kabuto to engage in CQC via Frog Kata [ ](<--Example).
-If using SM clone to attack Kabuto, Kabuto in the end will be the victor here. Because of Natural Energy both of their arsenals are increase[ ]. So the end once both sense each other incoming attack and dodges them last minute, both he will get a shock wave hit up close[ ]. Kabuto, fighting style being different, results in chopping and slicing, short shockwave. In the end Kabuto can liquify the part to ease the impact [ ], making the shockwave attack useless. Kabuto also has two other options dealing with the clones CQC. Making the navel snake support him to attack/strike[ ]. Or Kimmimaru's body to perform one of his dances to fend him off [ ][ ].

-If dealing with KM Clone/Clones. Peoples favorite argument with KCM Naruto is "to have them all body flicker barrage". I wasn't going to deal with such argument since that is out of character, but Kabuto could counter that anyway, by preventing it. Kabuto is the judge of his situation. KM clone is simply too much, but they can still easily lose with a direct hit[ ]. Naruto's character can still be clumsy so Kabuto can still use that has in advantage[ ]. Kabuto using Muki Tensei on the ground, will trouble Naruto to stabilize his balance to even attack properly [ ]. To seal the deal, Kabuto makes sure that the ground becomes like crashing waves, or quicksand to restrict their movements. From there Kabuto can do whatever he wants to KO them.​

Direct hit with FRS?​

-Lets say a clone successfully breached Kabuto [ ]. It is possible that Kabuto can defend himself from the back via Sakon's KKG[ ], by spawning from the back. And because of his perceptual upgrade, granted by Sage Mode, helps him grab him time, unlike the 3rd Raikage case. Kabuto will then successfully blocks/restrict Naruto from landing it. That's not all Kabuto then can switch Sakon to Jirobo so he can absorb his chakra[ ], giving him free chakra.

-Lets say it did hit. Kabuto has many options to counter the jutsu's effect. What makes FRS dangerous was explained by Tsunade[ ]. 3rd Raikage'd durability enable him to defeats its effects by having a strong body[ ]. What Kabuto can do:
A)Use Kimmimaro' bone layer, powered by Senjutsu[ ]
B) Using Kidomaru's sweat gland to block the chakra, with its testament of blocking Juuken[ ](Powered by Senjutsu)
C)Using his own Body Fuild, which works much better then Suigetsu[ ]. Making his body Molecule level, will not make the wind spikes land it's cells. Then he can regenerate from there.​

Chakra Arm Obstacle​

-Naruto's deadly combo and range here. Even having mention Rasenshuriken being counter, Naruto still can use Chou Mini Bijuudama.
-To deal with Chakra Arm Obstacle[ ], Kabuto can deal with them with his perceptual ability+Senpo:Chakra Scalpel.
-Naruto attempting to grab on to Kabuto will be hard, of his perceptual ability of course, but what makes it a done deal Kabuto's upgrade in Chakra Scalpel:
This medical technique forms one's chakra into a small, sharp blade. This can then be used for highly accurate incisions necessary for surgeries and anatomical dissections. Unlike regular scalpels, the chakra scalpel can make cuts inside the body without actually creating an open wound, limiting the risks of an infection.
Bold and underline is the most important factor here. This jutsu is able to attack internally and simply ignoring the external layer of the skin. With the upgrade of Senjutsu, the Scapels prioritizes has taken its next step in cutting precision.
-Both engaging each other, Kabuto should be safe. Senpo:Chakra Scalpel should be able ignore Naruto's external chakra shroud and cut internally. Or because of his Naruto amazing durability/chakra shroud feat. IT should bring the medical jutsu's damage back to Part I damage[ ], if anything.
-As for Chakra Arms, Kabuto new cutting precision should definitely slice them off[ ]. Worst case scenario, Kabuto could use Sakon's KGG Machine Gun tech[ ], fitting into kabuto's slicing and chopping style. With that he can add 3 times the original cutting power[ ].

-Naruto's Minidama landing on Kabuto, being safe, is thrown up for debate. We haven't fully seen the jutsu in action. The best feat was when Madara returned it.[ ]. Naruto's clone didn't disintegration, but then again the jutsu didn't hit externally. With that damage Kabuto may blow to liquid, and reforming later. The possible effects is up in the air for now.

Summoning Royal Battle​

-Summoning usually only applies one Summon per use. Naruto's contract with the toad seem to limit the use of multiplying more Summons at once, at least in character. So Naruto's options is to Summon a toad to aid him. He could just use one for Food cart destroyer use[ ], or his signature one, Gamakichi[ ]

-Food cart destroyer won't help much here as Kabuto can use the force of nature, accessing to inhuman strength. If Naruto wants to add more weight by going BM right on top of his Summon (XD) then Jiribo can help out:
"The Addition"

Since Kabuto has access to Jirobo's DNA he can also enable his strength, as long as he is exposed/present. Jirobo's State 2 enabled him to have the strength to even lift up Chouji's Cho Baika no Jutsu. [ ][ ][ ][ ][ ] Depending on how much weight you think Chouji has, he is basically Summoning level of weight capacity.

Kabuto even noted that using the Curse Seal shouldn't be compared to a master of the art of a Sage. [ ] So having Jirobo's DNA gather with Sage Boost makes it a done deal that his strength makes him the most, physically strongest character in the series. Also, any physical contact with Jirobo can even do this: [ ] Subjugating their opponent allows him to absorb chakra, much like the Sound ninja, Yoroi. [ ]




-Manda II is still not needed here for now. Kabuto can use his Snakes Clones to aid him here. They could enlarge themselves, to decent size.[ ]. Pretty much compared to Sussanoo's hands[ ].

-Since they have the same body shed and regeneration as Kabuto, they could be very useful. Like how any Snake Summoning fights. They have fangs, mostly likely poisonous or numbing effects, can use mole tech[ ], and powerful coiling.

-In the end, Gamakichi jumping around using Water Release[ ], won't help much. He could flood it like what Izumo did[ ], but liquid shedding gets out. Kabuto, could of course aid his snakes like this[ ], so they only his snakes wouldn't have trouble slithering around[ ], but Gamakichi having to trouble landing on spikes. Gamakichi in the end needs to land, and at some point the snakes can have a destination where they can coil around him, since he will still be bigger then them, needing more then 1 snake to do the job. Coiling and the snakes fangs, which most likely has numbing poison effects, will force Naruto's Summon to retreat.

-One of Kabuto's snake can actually breach Naruto's malice sensory. Most summons fight by nature's instinct, so it doesn't count as a malice attack. Much like how Naruto couldn't feel the malice of Nagato's Summon[ ]. So coming out like a Mole tech, can attempt to strangle Naruto, until Kabuto shows up to help out from a vulnerable-Naruto.


Buijuudama

-Through out the manga, it has shown that the bomb can be pushed away, slow down, changing its trajectory.
-Kabuto could use Muki Tensei to disrupt Naruto forming the right ratio.
-Naruto could always just jump and use it too[ ]. This is where Kabuto's webs can be very useful. The webs materiel as can either be as hard as Gold metal or make it sticky and elastic. Since it is powered by Senjutsu, this ability had brought this jutsu into another peak. Before added with Senpo, the strength of the webs, mainly carried by the weight of Gold, with just a small amount can knock back a human afar[ ]. We have seen in the manga that rubber/elastic substance was able to slow down the penetrating force of the 3rd Raikage[ ], temporally. With no penetrating force behind TBB, and the fact that Kabuto's Senpo: Webs are much stronger and better anyway, will conclude that the webs can act as a trampoline, redirecting the attack away or back to Naruto.

-Naruto could also use weaker amount of TBB , but continuously[ ], which could maybe get the job done. At that point Kabuto knows its best to tank the jutsu. How exactly? Manda II. Manda I skin was deal with C0, before dying[ ]. And Kabuto already stated, being and upgrade[ ]. So in the end Kabuto will be safe from the short explosions, while Manda II tanks some and the rest damages him. Manda II, by Kabuto's command, to shed and liquify the damage spot, then eventually regenerate, like his other snakes[ ] (Will explain how Manda II has such feat, if needed).
-Naruto strongest technique is countered.​

Kabuto's Finishers​

Finisher One (Doton:Doro)
-Channeling Senjutsu makes this jutsu is useful to end Naruto, but first to make him vulnerable, to catch Naruto. Using Jirobo strength and Doton combo, can cause a earthquake with certain amount of meters[ ](Improved in Senjutsu instead of Jiribo's base form). Naruto losing his balance can trap him in the Earth Dome. If Naruto is in BM, Kabuto can do the same plus, use Doton Mole to appear in front of Naruto. Kabuto using SM strength or Jirobo's, can slam him on the ground[ ]. Muki Tensei will give life to the ground, alternating the size of Doton:Doro, being enough to fit BM.
-Naruto's methods are slim to escape, any Rasengan variants or Buijuudama will not work[ ]. Naruto cloak eventually lessens and disappears too.
Naruto would be finish[ ]

Finisher Two(Using Tayuya):
-Using Manda II as a meat-shield, Kabuto, having Tayuya present, will Summon her Doki's, playing the melody to summon the ethereal entity[ ]. With these things fighting for Kabuto while he is chilling, using Manda as a shield to protect himself, Naruto has to do whatever means necessary to dodge them. Naruto knowing about them will either try to knock them away, or Chakra roar them away. Because of their ethereal priorities that would be useless thus, successfully phases through Naruto, ending the match.
-If Naruto is playing safe and playing keep away, Manda II can be as of help. Since this summon is so big, it can block, protect, and attack at the same time. Manda II can slow him by using his Giant tail swing [ ](<-Example). Or use his limbs to hold( ) or smack( ) him down.[ ](<--Limbs). Buying time to the ethereal monsters to go in for the eat.

-Kabuto could always switch the melody to Genjutsu, leaving the commands of the Doki. Now escaping the Genjtusu is thrown up in air, for discussion. I made this thread before, concerning Senjtusu: Genjutsu[ ], and even that explanation can be iffy. For now, how I see it: The effects will shut down Naruto's chakra usage, so BM cloak can get shut down. Uchiha brothers method of powered up Senjutsu of Genjutsu was to use Yin Release on each other. They use their personal Genjutsu, having their chakra entering the mental state realms to personally rip through the Genjutsu. Thats how I think this powered up Genjutsu needs to be broken down. Since Kyuubi has no Genjutsu feats to break the Genjutsu I, personally don't see it. Till now I may be ignorant to Genjutsu break method, seeing other opinion on this.

Final Finisher: White Rage

-Although outside, the effects will be shorten and maybe not be as strong. It still can buy out time for the next jutsu:

-This means webbing combo can be added. Once Naruto is caught, Kabuto can add more to restrict his movements, ending forming him into a cocoon[ ]. In that condition, forming seals or jutsu will be impossible.

-Using Orochimaru's true form can help too. Sending it to attack Naruto, in the middle of White Rage, can either take over his body or Naruto attempting of wounding it, which vaporizes poison in the air, restricting his movements[ ]

-White Rage can help with finishers 1 and 2​

Hypothetical Finisher​

If Kabuto's Orochimaru hands are unseal, Kabuto can make him use the 5 element seal on Naruto[ ]. Databook explains :"To disturb the effect of the "Four Images Seal" the Yondaime Hokage performed on Naruto, Orochimaru sealed Naruto once more. Because the "Five Element Seal," an odd-numbered seal, was put on top of the even-numbered "Four Images Seal"**, the Kyuubi's chakra was prevented from returning to Naruto. From then on, Naruto's own chakra and that of the Kyuubi's became jumbled and Naruto lost the ability to skilfully control it."

Making Kabuto the victor.

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Disagree on some pointers? Share your input. State your reason(s), how you see Naruto taking this? /nb4NoNaruto****Stomps.
 

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Such a waste of time creating stomp threads after stomp thread just like the ridiculous shouldn't be debatable 5Kages vs Kabuto thread when some of them could solo him. Anyway back on topic, didn't read too long, but Naruto wins low difficulty in BM, mid difficulty in KCM, and could go either way in SM
 

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It's obvious that Kabuto takes this without much trouble.
 

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I disagree , though it was a nice read .
 

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Such a waste of time creating stomp threads after stomp thread just like the ridiculous shouldn't be debatable 5Kages vs Kabuto thread when some of them could solo him. Anyway back on topic, didn't read too long, but Naruto wins low difficulty in BM, mid difficulty in KCM, and could go either way in SM

Ignorant and bias as usual. Perfect for you to "hit-n-run"

It's obvious that Kabuto takes this without much trouble.

He will definitly have trouble lol

I disagree , though it was a nice read .

Thanks? Mind sharing your reason(s)?
 

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He will definitly have trouble lol

I never said he won't, but Naruto is overrated as hell. Kabuto is tricky and Naruto is stupid. Moreover, his arsenal is set up around some big-ass Rasengan, Bijuudama and stuff Kabuto can easily avoid/counter.

It won't be as troublesome as many people think.
 

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Ignorant and bias as usual. Perfect for you to "hit-n-run"
Talking about ignorance and bias when you're making up stuff for Kabuto that he doesn't possess like imaginary strength or durability when in reality he is comparable to Tenten in the category by feats?
 

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Talking about ignorance and bias when you're making up stuff for Kabuto that he doesn't possess like imaginary strength or durability when in reality he is comparable to Tenten in the category by feats?

Except I already threw the facts in your face but didn't want to read it? Which further shows how much you are?
 

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Except I already threw the facts in your face but didn't want to read it? Which further shows how much you are?
I admit i didn't want to read because i consider this a stomp thread, but instead of showing me a long hypothetical thread, can you post me a picture coming from this manga that shows Kabuto's supposed great strength or durability? Just one picture please, i don't ask you to go with random stuffs
 

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I admit i didn't want to read because i consider this a stomp thread, but instead of showing me a long hypothetical thread, can you post me a picture coming from this manga that shows Kabuto's supposed great strength or durability? Just one picture please, i don't ask you to go with random stuffs

Once again its not hypothetical at all. Nothing I post was a threory, which shows you that you didn't read, at all. Kabuto's has less panel times and too much to show. What Kisimoto did was broke down the basics.

Example: Do I have to post a scan of Hashirama using Flower Tree World/Pollen? In this case, evidence of absents isn't absents of evidence.

But since you desperately need a literal scan of strength, regardless when its manga fact that Nature is what gives the external energy to do so... [ ]
 

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Once again its not hypothetical at all. Nothing I post was a threory, which shows you that you didn't read, at all. Kabuto's has less panel times and too much to show. What Kisimoto did was broke down the basics.

Example: Do I have to post a scan of Hashirama using Flower Tree World/Pollen? In this case, evidence of absents isn't absents of evidence.

But since you desperately need a literal scan of strength, regardless when its manga fact that Nature is what gives the external energy to do so... [ ]
We haven't seen Hashirama use those jutsus but it was said he possess those jutsus. Never was it said or showed Kabuto possess great strength or durability however. By feats, he completely pales in comparison to Jiraya in these categories, let alone Naruto

And why are you showing me that picture? Is that supposed to be a great feat? Not only it happens in a genjutsu, but if anything it proves just my point. His strength is so weak that he couldn't even get free from Susanoo's ribcage hand that he was forced to switch body to escape. I guarantee you that a Sage Mode user like Jiraya or Naruto would have laughed at that ribcage hand when they can own boss summons with their presence alone
 

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We haven't seen Hashirama use those jutsus but it was said he possess those jutsus. Never was it said or showed Kabuto possess great strength or durability however. By feats, he completely pales in comparison to Jiraya in these categories, let alone Naruto

@ Bold: Exactly my point. Thats why I send you links breaking down Kabuto's arsenals. It was never said Toad Sage gets strength feats. It is through Nature that gives you this ability, period. Kabuto has access to Nature, period. Kabuto has master Sage, period.

And why are you showing me that picture? Is that supposed to be a great feat? Not only it happens in a genjutsu, but if anything it proves just my point.

That didn't prove your point at all. It further shows that its unordinary to rip a hand apart with your bare teeth, show me Naruto doing this? So what if its in a Genjutsu? Does this mean Itachi can't copy Kabuto's jutsu just because it was inside Izanami? Being in a Genjutsu doesn't apply it anywhere of being invalid.

His strength is so weak that he couldn't even get free from Susanoo's ribcage hand that he was forced to switch body to escape. I guarantee you that a Sage Mode user like Jiraya or Naruto would have laughed at that ribcage hand when they can own boss summons with their presence alone

I lol'd. Thanks for the laugh. Not a chance.
 

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your unhealthy obsession with kabuto is disturbing, almost nothing you say is agreeable

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You should retitle your thread, since you nerfed Naruto by your conditions.

"Kabuto > Naruto (Without BSM)" would be a better title, though I don't agree that that is the case.
 

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your unhealthy obsession with kabuto is disturbing, almost nothing you say is agreeable

fight starts this way

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and it ends

Why completely ignore the OP conditions? Just to make a bias and out of character scenario for yourself?

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Why completely ignore the OP conditions? Just to make a bias and out of character scenario for yourself?

i did not see bijuu mode restricted in the OP

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your unhealthy obsession with kabuto is disturbing, almost nothing you say is agreeable

fight starts this way

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and it ends

Why completely ignore the OP conditions? Just to make a bias and out of character scenario for yourself?

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You should retitle your thread, since you nerfed Naruto by your conditions.

"Kabuto > Naruto (Without BSM)" would be a better title, though I don't agree that that is the case.

Its unnecessary? And are you reading?:

Disagree on some pointers? Share your input. State your reason(s), how you see Naruto taking this? [/CENTER]
 

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i did not see bijuu mode restricted in the OP

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(Sigh) Really?

[*]Mindset: Defeating In Character

[*]Naruto cannot be in SM and BM at the same time, can only switch like this [ ]

[*]Conditions will start both facing each other, from Base feats-Up: I will be breaking down their moves from there.
 

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going bijuu mode is not in character?
i did not post bsm
naruto always starts in base, however once he enters bm kabuto will be thrown like the bijuus

Now how the hell do you think I would start the conditions of Kabuto starting in base vs. BM Naruto -_-
 
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