Fuuton: Rasenshruiken Speed Calculation

[Exaar]

"110 times the speed of sound" XD.

God knows what Pain/nagato's reaction speed level is then, Not only did he quite easily stop the first Rs

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Then he was able to dodge the second (look how damn close it is to him).

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Yet even though it was mere feet away, Naruto's clones had enough time attempted to grab him, While Pain still had enough time to react and stab the two clones, Then dodge it

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So i would hardly say it's traveling anywhere close to "110 times the speed of sound", Just kishi and his Plot seconds and his inconsistencies in Size.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Completely false. Do you have any idea how fast mach speed is?

- Deva not only stabbed two clones but leisurely dodged at the same time. Deva path has never been portrayed as having an extremely high speed. Even then, if you didn't notice, he was literally stationary when he stabbed the clones. They hit the ground and disappeared. After that he jumped a little into the air - it was such a small leap - and FRS was shown to cut through all the debris. It bamboozles me how you even imagined that FRS has such a high speed. Heck, Kakashi, Chouji, and his father had no trouble keeping up with Deva. He only bested them with Shinra Tensai, which obviously has little or nothing to do with Bodily Speed.

- Third Raikage only has V1 . He was shown to dodge FRS effortlessly, twice. He lacks V2 and you know how he compares to V1 Ae? He's considerably slow and even that would be an understatement. Juugo never kept up with Ae, who blitzed him twice in such a painful manner. He was mostly keeping up with Bee just fine. In fact, Lava Balloon and Doton Walls were used to counter all moves from Third with ease. Lava Balloon was used to save Naruto when Third was literally just a few feet away. All relevant ninjas anticipated and built defenses for his speed and hell stab. Where does that put FRS?

There is not way in hell FRS is that quick. Not even close. This thread has blown things out of proportion.

Sorry, but nothing in this post even begins to disprove this thread. Naruto characters move at hypersonic speeds.

How you talk about Raiton no Yoroi is also quite dishonest. There's no such thing as "V1" and "V2", They are just fan made terms to make refering to A charging his Raiton armor to its max easier.​

 

[shelke]

^ How is mach-speed achieved? As nothing in your post supports this point at all. Nothing.

What? You must be kidding me. There is a clear distinction made in the manga in regards to V1 and V2 Raiton armour. Raikage injecting his Armour with Bijuu Level chakra - as commented by Karin - was the start of his V2 Armour. His hair are shown to spike up with the enhanced Lightening Armour.

 

[Ahmed1993]

Note: There will be some scaling that won't be completely on point due to the nature of such. So this will be a low end Calculation, meaning FRS is at least this fast.

This is also my first speed calculation, so please, be gentle.

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Konan Canon Height (Converted from Meters): 5.544619 Feet
Konan Height in Pixels: 63

This scales each pixel to be 0.08793650793 feet.

364 x 0.08793650793 = 32.0088888889 feet.

• Double this to get the diameter of the tree

32.0088 x 2 = 64.0177777778 feet.

The Tree is 64.0177777778 feet wide (Presumed)

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Tree Canon width (Presumed): 64.0177777778 feet
Tree Width in Pixels: 28 Pixels

This scales each pixel to be 2.28632142857 feet

Tree Height in Pixels: 222 Pixels

2.28632142857 x 222 = 507.563357143

The Tree is 507.563357143 Feet Tall

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Tree Canon Height: 507.563357143 Feet
Tree Height in Pixels: 9 Pixels

This scales each Pixel to be 56.3959285714 feet.

Mountain Height in Pixels: 172

172 x 56.3959285714 = 9700.09971429 feet

The Mountain is 9700.09971429 Feet tall (Thats a tall ass mountain)

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Note: This is where the scaling gets off, I had to use a mountain that I wasn't sure was the correct one. Though all the mountains around that area are in the same General height. So, I used to mid sized one of the three.

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Mountain Canon Height (Presumed): 9,700.09971429
Mountain Height in Pixels: 58 Pixels

This scales each pixel to be 167.243098522 feet

Crater Size in Pixels: 740

740 x 167.243098522 = 123759.892906

The Crater is 123,759.892906 feet long.

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Now, We know how far Fuuton: Rasenshruiken traveled. We just need to know in what amount of time.

Luckily, Kishimoto gave us a time fram on exactly how long it took for FRS to reach the other end of the crater.

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It took around 1 Second for Fuuton: Rasenshruiken to travel 123,769 feet.

Speed = Distance / Time

Speed = 123,760 / 1

Speed = 123,760 Feet per second

Speed of sound = 340 m/s (or 1115.49 feet per second)

123,759 / 1115.49 = 110.946662818



So according to my calculations, FRS moves at around Mach 110 (or 110 times the speed of sound)

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[Xlad]

Speed of sound? FRS is fast, but it being at a speed of sound is clearly hyperbolic. That would mean that the paths shouldn't have evaded the FRS the first time.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Lol. People for some reason believe that Deva reacting means he's faster as FRS. Reaction speed=/=movement speed, and Deva sure did have a tonne of time to reaction.. Anyways, nice calculation but last I recall it was about 65-90 Mach, not 110. Never the less, good effort.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

^ How is mach-speed achieved? As nothing in your post supports this point at all. Nothing.

What? You must be kidding me. There is a clear distinction made in the manga in regards to V1 and V2 Raiton armour. Raikage injecting his Armour with Bijuu Level chakra - as commented by Karin - was the start of his V2 Armour. His hair are shown to spike up with the enhanced Lightening Armour.

My post actually perfectly proves it. Which you have refuted in no such way and are simply crying out like a babe for a tit.

As I said, He simply increases the amount of chakra he kneadds into Raiton no Yoroi. Nothing implying there is a V1 or V2.​

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[shelke]

^ Good one. You are grasping at straws. Don't bite off more than you can chew. You are trying to validate an empty argument that is bereft of logic if compared to actual Aerodynamics:

- Deva is stationary, yet he is moving his arms at something above the Mach speed you have suggested? Mach speed is only achieved in high speed motion, when two pressure waves collide when the object itself exceeds speed of sound. It's always accompanied by a shock wave and a loud sound. Your theory is put two rest by these factors alone -

- Deva is stationary when he stabbed clones.
- The clones only covered a very very short distance and disappeared after being stabbed.
- Deva made a small jump to evade FRS.

Now to even suggest that these individuals were traveling at super sonic speeds is borderline insane.

Again, false. Ae has two versions of his armour. One that uses less Chakra and provides lesser speed and the other that incorporates more chakra. This is an indisputable fact. Third Raikage's feats in his Raiton armour don't match to Fourth's at all. Now going by your logic, Third was traveling at supersonic, other ninjas - they were mostly stationary or showed very little movement, FYI - who devised and used counters somehow had mach numbers on their mostly stationary bodies. You must be kidding me? Do you even know how mach number works? Forget Wikipedia and tell me in its actuality - what is a mach number and how is it sometimes achieved only on points rather than the whole structure?

 

[Transcendence]

Shelke, I respect you, but you're incorrect.

OT: I noticed on another forum that they did a similar calculation but more in depth, and it isn't Mach 110. Its more around the range of Mach 70.

 

[AlphaScythian]

This is come pixel BS. What kind of math is this?

FRS is chakra shuriken and naruto throws it as fast as he throws normal one with comparable weight.

 

[shelke]

^ How?

The guy posts images and creates numbers on against fairly stationary characters but it's somehow mach speed? I get the feeling that no one here has a clue as to what conditions are a prerequisite for Mach Number.

 

[Bronze]

This could be accurate since PS swing is mach 156.4.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

This could be accurate since PS swing is mach 156.4.

Zaru only managed to extend the distance by a margin, his should be quantifiable, while the original accepted one, by NF and the OBD was at Mach 143

 

[Bronze]

Zaru only managed to extend the distance by a margin, his should be quantifiable, while the original accepted one, by NF and the OBD was at Mach 143

Zaru calculated the speed of PS with TBB. The swings of PS in 589 were faster than that.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Zaru calculated the speed of PS with TBB. The swings of PS in 589 were faster than that.

Yeah I guess, the TBB's original scale was Mach 143, the PS was supposedly scaled to that, zaru extended that I believe, but even so, such a little speed advantage isn't helpful at the point when we have sub-relativistic attack speed of the Juubi. And it's Mach 160 beam speed, but nonetheless, it's a great effort. LOL

 

[shelke]

LOL Just ... my god. People are actually agreeing with OP? The way he has calculated Speed of Sound alone is so off the mark, that I don't even know where to freaking start. No Temperature, no gas constant, no air constant. On what basis did he even come up with this number? a is wrong, this means the entire calculation is wrong. Nothing but a couple of numbers pulled from god knows where.

I don't even ... This base always surprises me, but this is too much.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

^^ it's not only on NB, it's done on multiple forums

 

[shelke]

^ All of them are wrong. The formula for calculating the speed of sound (a) for mach number:

a = under-root - rRT

T = Absolute Temperature
R = The Gas Constant
r = a constant (1.4 for air)

a is directly proportional to under-root T. Which means Speed of sound or pressure waves chance ONLY with Temperature. Which means, one needs to know T to calculate Mach number.

After you have that out of the way, you calculate The ratio of TAS - True Air Speed - if anything is not moving through air, we can simply call it True Speed - to Local Speed of Sound for the mach number through the following formula -

M = V/a

The True Speed has separate calculations. Again, on what basis are people creating mach numbers? Do they have the temperature, the Gas and Air constants?