Fuuton: Rasenshruiken Speed Calculation

[Ganta]

have you not watched the anime? theres no way the speed is 110 times the speed of sound

 

[Gakido]

That prove my point, Pain and Naruto was 20-40yards away from each other.

I thought the calc was for FRS going from one end to the other? Which it did.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

it certainly isnt that fast but nice calculation anyway ^^

Based on what? Kishi directly said in the manga that FRS crossed the crater in less than 1 second​

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Doubt that matters when in a fight considering anyone is able to dodge that move on foot.

Doubtful​

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3rd Raikage could still Dodge.

Because he's Massively Hypersonic​

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I believe you are miscalculating where Naruto threw it from. I don't remember him being very far away from pain.

Hardly, I was calculating how long it took for FRS to go from one end of the crater to the other. If you have actually read those panels, then you can clearly see it did.​

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I highly appreciate the effort, but I'm wondering, How does that explain this then?

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What does that prove?​

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have you not watched the anime? theres no way the speed is 110 times the speed of sound

As soon as you mentioned the anime your post was worthless.​

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[slaton02]

I thought the calc was for FRS going from one end to the other? Which it did.

I can't remember exactly how it went but The RS missed and it was a shadow clone that threw another one which was BEHIND him Making the distance traveled under forty yrds and Pain pushed it away and that's when he said he needed 4 seconds. I can't remember exactly but I know for a fact that RS was not that fast. Unless viewing speed is slowed down and every Naruto character is sound speed or faster.

 

[Gakido]

I can't remember exactly how it went but The RS missed and it was a shadow clone that threw another one which was BEHIND him Making the distance traveled under forty yrds. I can't remember exactly but I know fr a fact that RS was not that fast.

What?

You can clearly see FRS came from Naruto

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Next page; Pain Dodged

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reaches the other end;

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[Vegeto30294]

What does that prove?​

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For a technique going Mach 110+, 2 Paths of Pain certainly didn't have a hard time dodging it, and another was able to throw a third out of the way. All while expanding.

 

[Sir Blades]

The rasenshruriken is not that fast. If that were true then it would break the sound barrier every time it were to be thrown. And certain characters wouldn't be able to dodge it. But i appreciate the effort you put in to those calculations even if they are wrong.

 

[slaton02]

What?

You can clearly see FRS came from Naruto

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Next page; Pain Dodged

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reaches the other end;

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in the OP he show where Pain said he had 4 seconds until he can use Deva path That is where he is getting his time from. When that happen that's when it was the shadow RS I was talking about. I wasn't exactly just referring to the pages you showed sorry, but I like I was saying his calculations are wrong,

I'm confusing myself lol all I know is RS is not that fast.

 

[KingHashirama]

Fast shinobi can easily get out of the range.

 

[lordryoko]

I am not saying it isn't fast, it is but it is not that fast. When he used it on Pein first they weren't very far apart from each other...and has been said before, it was practically dodged by all but one of the Peins (the summoning one was pushed away and the other took the hit). Also as has been said before (again), if they were travelling past the speed of sound, there would be a sonic boom...kishi wouldn't leave that out...a sonic boom is impressive isn't it?

 

[fastrthnwind]

This seems inaccurate to the point of the distance it was thriwn. It was not exactly 37 km that he threw it at pain. He would require a byakugan to be able to throw it so accurately.

Also, if it was traveling that fast, then it would not even be visible except as a extremely fast blue streak of light, though pain and his paths were able to see it coming and have enough time to visually percieve its trajectory in order to come to the conclusion of when they needed to dodge, and they dont have the sharingan/byakugan to determine its position/trajectory/velocity.

All in all this technique is actually quite fast, probably capable of moving in excess of 300 kmph, but not supersonic. As I said, pains paths were able to avoid such a technique thrown at a relatively close distance and they are not considered to possess hypersonic speed like some other characters, though they are still noted to be fairly fast.

 

[adeshina365]

Interesting. Though I've found that calculations based on scale are utterly pointless.

I tried to do some calculations on the height of Naruto's BM, and the inconsistency in scale made it absolutely impossible.

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

I think your calc makes sense and doesnot contradict the manga!-good job
-People who doubt it should consider this- its a thrown disc, ( its base is actually a rasengan sized orb (baseball sized) so it should be noted that its as fast as Naruto can throw it. Now, we don't know the weight at all but if we assume its around the weight of a baseball, if peak humans can throw a baseball at 100 mph whats so hard about believing that sage naruto ( who threw summons several times larger than elephants) into the cloudline could throw something at mach 100???

The bigger question is that if supposedly Sage naruto could throw a rasenshurken at mach 100, how fast would BSM naruto's rasenshurken be??

 

[Senju Bean]

Mach 100 is certainly a very impressive speed. Can't believe that Deva path could actually dodge it without actually moving at sound speeds himself.

I want to see who would win a 1000 mile race. Rasensuiken or Minato's sprint.

 

[Champ]

Deva dodged it

 

[warlee]

Deva is fast, he tag kakashi in cqc and outrun 6 tail kyuubi.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

The idiocy here is incredible. I won't argue with people that think Naruto characters actually move at normal human speeds. Most of them are at least Hypersonic, Faster things in Naruto are Massively Hypersonic. The fastest being the Juubi's Bijudama which is actually Sub-Revalistic.​

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[shelke]

Completely false. Do you have any idea how fast mach speed is?

- Deva not only stabbed two clones but leisurely dodged at the same time. Deva path has never been portrayed as having an extremely high speed. Even then, if you didn't notice, he was literally stationary when he stabbed the clones. They hit the ground and disappeared. After that he jumped a little into the air - it was such a small leap - and FRS was shown to cut through all the debris. It bamboozles me how you even imagined that FRS has such a high speed. Heck, Kakashi, Chouji, and his father had no trouble keeping up with Deva. He only bested them with Shinra Tensai, which obviously has little or nothing to do with Bodily Speed.

- Third Raikage only has V1 . He was shown to dodge FRS effortlessly, twice. He lacks V2 and you know how he compares to V1 Ae? He's considerably slow and even that would be an understatement. Juugo never kept up with Ae, who blitzed him twice in such a painful manner. He was mostly keeping up with Bee just fine. In fact, Lava Balloon and Doton Walls were used to counter all moves from Third with ease. Lava Balloon was used to save Naruto when Third was literally just a few feet away. All relevant ninjas anticipated and built defenses for his speed and hell stab. Where does that put FRS?

There is not way in hell FRS is that quick. Not even close. This thread has blown things out of proportion.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Brilliant calc, the new calc was around Mach 70 (accepted)

Nicely done

 

[Senju Bean]

Perhaps you can do an approximate speed calc of Madara's PS shockwave using the anime. That would be interesting.