Sage Kabuto vs. Gokage

[Brother Numpsay]

Gokage win this. Quite easily actually.

Read through the arguments so far.

Convince me.

 

[miromiro]

Read through the arguments so far.

Convince me.

Why would I need to convince you?

 

[Prince Charles]

Could go either way but im sure sound flute genjutsu is not finishing the kages considering Gaara can control his sands without movement.

 

[End of Days]

really?

kabuto who got cornered by four puny magatamas is going to somehow evade attacks from four different kages and at the same time prevent oonoki from firing jinton and also prepare his own attack

tell me another joke

 

[Masked man]

I think Kabuto takes this.

He could Dodge Sasuke's arrow, Itachi's Magatama and cut Itachi at half in one moment without eyesight, so I think that Raikage's speed wouldn't be problem.

When he actives SM nature is on his side, his clay thorns are pretty strong and fast. Kages only chance is flying.. (help to Oonoki or Gaara) But I'm not sure if they can do that so fast because Kabuto could stopped Amaterasu with his earth wall.
The next problem for Kages is Kabuto's (Tayuya's) Genjutsu because no one of them has Sharingan so they can't get into Genjutsu to each other and break it as Itachi and Sasuke did.
Even they would stay away from Kabuto, he has next dangerous technique - Hakugeki. The dragon with small lighting ball can fly and it's too fast for dodge. Kages would be defenceless if they fall into effect of this technique.

And the last problem for Kages is Kabuto's immortality. No matter how many injuries he would have, he can easily regenerate his body and if they cut half of his body, he can create a new with Oro's technique. Only chance is Oonoki's Jinton, but Kabuto is sensor, he can sense that he is attacking him..

 

[Shura]

Nidaime Manda eats half of them. Lmfao.​

 

[Chīkara]

(薬師カブト, Yakushi Kabuto) Shall earn the victory,

I don't see them having any defense against Cacophony ( Obviously referring to; Senpō: Hakugeki no Jutsu

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Tsunade is useless in this battle due to Kabuto being able to Liquify himself.

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Manda Nidaime-Sama can take Tsnade's summoning.
Senpō: Muki Tensei give's decrease Raikage's mobillity

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And the kages have NO defense against Tayuya's genjutsu capabilities

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Kabuto take this with Mid difficulty.​

 

[Optimistic]

The guy above me looks smart cause he uses 'smart' font and copy and pastes jutsu names from naruto Wiki.Lol

ot: White Rage ends this.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Why would I need to convince you?

Because I want to see how you rationalize them taking this quite "easily" then the contrary of most parts I already countered so far.

Could go either way but im sure sound flute genjutsu is not finishing the kages considering Gaara can control his sands without movement.

How does controlling the sand still help them win the battle..

kabuto who got cornered by four puny magatamas is going to somehow evade attacks from four different kages and at the same time prevent oonoki from firing jinton and also prepare his own attack

First of all, In a Cave, White Rage cover all angles so that point is moot, since they can't do nothing until its faded.

Outside, most of their attacks get Muki Tensei lol:

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Muki Tesnsei is overpowered even if only controlling Inorganic material. Lets see how this jutsu works exactly.

This jutsu allows the user to control things that have no life functions by gifting them with some of their own life force, allowing the user to freely manipulate the substance according to their will.

Now since Kabuto can do this too all inorganic components, I can give you a list of Inorganic material which no one will read:

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Or I can list the important factors in Naruto-verse that Kabuto can freely manipulate.

First we have to notice the requirements in order to freely manipulate inogranic material.

f you notice here [

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], Kabuto clashed with metal here, an inorganic materiel, and was never affected by Muki Tensei. As soon as he drew back to perform the jutsu [

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], only the whole cave was manipulated [Keep note that Kabuto was only on one knee here, he his palm wasn't touching the ground]. This concludes that the jutsu only works for the last inorganic materiel he had touched, as you can see here [

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→ Step 1: Touch inorganic materiel. [

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→ Step 2: Weave the hand seal. [

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(Step 1 and 2 can be vise-versa)​

What are the important factors that he can freely manipulate? Well the 5 basic elements, metal and even sand can be part of his arsenal. As long as he is able to touch it, he can freely manipulate it after he weaves his hand signs.

And that is not all. Take a look at the jutsu's description again above. It states 'allowing the user to freely manipulate the substance according to their will' and furthermore, now take a look at Kabuto's statement when the jutsu was activate [

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→ What does this mean? According to Kabuto, the cave changed it's shape and then returned to it's normal shape after Sasuke used Amaterasu and according to the jutsu's description, the user can freely manipulate the substance according to their will. In other words, it can change shapes so Kabuto is capable of manipulating it to more shapes such as hands which can grab the enemy, snakes which can envelope the enemy, etc. so he doesn't have to manipulate them only to spikes.

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-AkatsukiChurch added the last point-​

tell me another joke

Gokage, winning.

 

[Chīkara]

The guy above me looks smart cause he uses 'smart' font and copy and pastes jutsu names from naruto Wiki.Lol

ot: White Rage ends this.

Fallacious statement.
I try too enlight people with my ''Book Antiqua'' Font, And no I don't try to look smart with it.
And yes my information is indeed from Naruto Wikipedia.
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[Prince Charles]

How does controlling the sand still help them win the battle..

I shouldnt have to explain it, it's rather common sense, The fact that while in the flute genjutsu jutsu can still be performed without movement which refers back to Gaara sand which can be used a defense mechanism when kabuto would come in close for a attack while they are paralyzed. But I do agree his sand won't be enough to hold off the offensive power of kabuto but gaara can definitely protect the other kages while they are paralyzed.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I shouldnt have to explain it, it's rather common sense, The fact that while in the flute genjutsu jutsu can still be performed without movement which refers back to Gaara sand which can be used a defense mechanism when kabuto would come in close for a attack while they are paralyzed. But I do agree his sand won't be enough to hold off the offensive power of kabuto but gaara can definitely protect the other kages while they are paralyzed.

Sound Genjutsu also shuts off chakra usage, shown when Sussanoo shut down. This can apply to Gaara chakra manipulation too and Ay's Lightening shell.

Not only that but Kabuto can Muki Tensei the Sand, since its inorganic.

Your premise doesn't work. The moment he feel like using Sound Genjutsu its over.

 

[Chīkara]

Sound Genjutsu also shuts off chakra usage, shown when Sussanoo shut down. This can apply to Gaara chakra manipulation too and Ay's Lightening shell.

Not only that but Kabuto can Muki Tensei the Sand, since its inorganic.

Your premise doesn't work. The moment he feel like using Sound Genjutsu its over.

Second this.

Both Tsunade and Gaara are useless in this battle.

White rage ends it
Tayuya genjutsu ends it
Muki tensei ends it due to all the sand of gaara.

 

[End of Days]

First of all, In a Cave, White Rage cover all angles so that point is moot, since they can't do nothing until its faded.

first of all, mei's lava gets rid of white rage's dragon and orb rather easily so white rage fails hard

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most of their attacks get Muki Tensei

one touch of oonoki makes them so heavy that they cant move, or gaara's sand and oonoki's golem protect them, or raikage goes v2 and blitzes him causing him to go on a defensive, or mei's lava causes the cave to retract, or tsunade demolishes the cave

literally half a dozen ways for them to get around this

 

[KingHashirama]

Kabuto pimp slaps all of them.

-Phyiscaly stronger then Tsunade
-Mei is useless here, so he can take his time with her.
-Ay loses at the end with the advantage of his perceptional ability.
-Gaara cannot do anything but temporal protection, which in the end gets Muki Tensei
-Onoki having Jiton, is the only thing working here, Kabuto knows that and kills him first

- You wish he was.
- Mei is very useful against Kabuto.
- Sure Gaara can't do anything besides you know a sand Tsunami..
- As if others will let him...

Do you want me to mention that Kabuto will be literally f*cked up with the combination of Onoki + Ay V2 speed blitz , with Gaara using his sand to hold Kabuto down?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

first of all, mei's lava gets rid of white rage's dragon and orb rather easily so white rage fails hard

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First of all was that suppose to prove the Lava is faster then White Rage? I hope not since if your going by scans, the Dragon Entity can move away from the wave of lava , much like anybody who encounter it so far. Sasuke (if he didn't feel like tanking it), Karin, and Madara. Even being very unlikely to start a jutsu to attack a jutsu.

Not only that but the entity of the dragon is not water but the same material made from Kabuto's fluids (Here is his Exploit, concerning it):

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"Immunity"​

This exploit will focus on and breaking down Kabuto's invulnerability.​

Invulnerability: Incapable of being wounded, injured, or harmed.

The most important factor regarding this is to break down his ability through Karin, Suigetsu, and Sakon/Ukon.

Karin​

-Karin has a remarkably powerful life force. This grants her immense potential longevity as well as equally strong vitality. As noted by Kabuto, Karin also possesses a unique healing ability which seemingly stems from this powerful life-force.[

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]. Her regeneration has surpasses Tsunade's. The reason I say this is because Tsunade requires a seal from her forehead to active her jutsu, to regenerate. Karin strictly uses her life force in order to get the healing done the same way, no jutsu or seal required. Her regeneration simply can put Tsunade's body back together [

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](Not saying that Tsunade can do that at full power but simply making a point). Karin's life force shown here replenish Tsuades chakra,

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, and brought her back to health.

This is what Kabuto now has in his possession.

Suigetsu​

I cross out his name for a reason. Kabuto simply alternated his own version of he. Crossing out his name was basically signifying the difference between Suigetsu's from Kabuto:

My previous mention something about "fluids" and I was talking about "Suika no Jutsu". DO NOT CALL Kabuto's fluids "Suika no Jutsu". Lets read the context again [

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]. Kabuto said its ability to transform the body "INTO A LIQUID FORM". It was never stated what liquid form Kabuto uses. To understand the context as a whole, read what Kabuto said right after. "I use MY BODY FLUID <--- To perform it". Which means its something else. For all we known this liquid is unconductible, since not every liquid is conductible. For all we know the fluids can handle Amatersu heat. The next panel says, Kabuto researched and ALTERNATE his own version. Now to conclude this part is distinguishing "WATER" to Kabuto's "FLUIDS" the last context of Kabuto's source. "Dont you know him, too? it's Sugetsu. He (Sugetsu)<----- can transform into water...." That said Kabuto's Fuilds can work better then the houzuki clan, even countering it's weak points.

First there is a reason why Kabuto mention doing research and alternation from the liquid/hydrification. Kabuto knew the pros and the cons with Suika no Jutsu. This is why he had alternate it. The manga never said what kind of liquid form Kabuto uses (Although by the looks of it, it is very thick and also produces his fluid while keeping its skin state[

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], basically abnormal) , BUT by context he had to alter the jutsu to FIX the CONS. Well? What are the Cons for Suika No Jutsu? Lightening Release, and always needing water to drank, to keep themselves hydrated. These weaknesses do not apply to Kabuto at all. If you were to look at the scan where Kabuto was explaining his body shed version we know that the context also applied that the alternation is much better then the snake skin shed. That means that anything that snake skin shed, either can do the same or much better then normal shedding. An example would be Manda tanking Katon+Oil by simply shedding his skin to counter the effects. [

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]. Kabuto simply made sure to have this Liquid he altered to counter electricity and also enabling him to face off heating capacity.

To top it all off, some people claim that Kabuto using it doesn't work automatically. But in context Kabuto could also use this Jutsu at WILL[

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Now what can we say about Both his Regeneration and this Fluid Jutsu? Well I will quote one of the memeber of this Group here, that explains this very well.
(Keep in mind that his context thought that Kabuto uses water for hydrification. Simply replace the context for "water" to what I already explained and it still fits the context)

Suigetsu's ability can also enhance Kabuto's regenerative capacity. The basis of regeneration is the rate at which the cells of the person an divide. Basically, Kabuto, Tsunade etc. regenerate at a cellular rate. A human body can consist of 3.72e13 cells. By utilizing Suigetsu's ability, he becomes solely water. By becoming water, his entire body can become solely molecules. Which a human body weighing about 65kg(Kabuto's weight) can contain up to 6.5e27 atoms. Which means that by using water transformation, he regenerates at a molecular rate, rather than only at a celluar rate. In other words, the capacity and rate at which Kabuto can regenerate is doubled when he uses water transformation.

(Thank Zaru for shedding some light here)​

All the Dragon Enitiy need to do is project the core and the jutsu will be still in effect.

one touch of oonoki makes them so heavy that they cant move, or gaara's sand and oonoki's golem protect them, or raikage goes v2 and blitzes him causing him to go on a defensive, or mei's lava causes the cave to retract, or tsunade demolishes the cave

literally half a dozen ways for them to get around this

Kabuto sense makes it impossible to land weighted body, Onoki coming in contact closer makes it easy for him to finish him off. Kabuto's jutsu can work both defensive and offensive so Ay is not a problem. Mei lava is a melting point that ends up drying up anyway so Muiki Tensei will not effect like Enton did. Tsunade doing that is pointless has it will leave her vulnerable and Kabuto can reconstruct it. Not to mention that Manga Knowledge, doesnt show that they know Kabuto's Cave gives him an advantage.

Plus I brought up another Option Kabuto can do:

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How so, especially in the cave?

White Rage is a definite KO. He has to calcualte who he wants to kill first in this situation. He will most likey go after Onoki since he knows his Jiton is the only threat.

Or he can put them all in Earth Dome after White Rage, since the match up starts with them together. Read up on Doton Dome Exploit:

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These are exploits created by members of the group ''Kabuto's Fap Cave'' [

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Senpō: Dorō Dōmu | Exploit #1

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This exploit will only focus on Jirōbō's ability which Kabuto has gained as well due to the fact that he has Jirōbō's DNA inside him. [

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] Since Kabuto has gained Jirōbō's DNA and Jutsu then he should be more than capable of using Dorō Dōmu. Now let's look at Dorō Dōmu's description.



Just as stated above, Kabuto with Jirōbō's abilities should be capable of trapping the enemy within Dorō Dōmu [

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] which would then proceed to absorb the enemy's Chakra. [

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] Also look at Kiba's comment. 'The ground as well!' which means that escaping the dome by trying to underground isn't an option. And please do note that this dome is capable of absorbing the enemy's Chakra rather quickly given Jirōbō's comment. [

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] Naruto wasn't even capable of forming a Rasengan inside the dome. [

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However, Dorō Dōmu has a weak point which Shikamaru found out. [

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] from that spot in order to keep the enemy away. Then again, Kabuto could simply produce spikes from the whole insides of the Dorō Dōmu and kill the enemy that way considering that he can't evade the spikes.

Anyways, about the Dorō Dōmu's weak spot. It isn't that easy to break at all considering that they had to use something stronger than even Kiba's Gatsūga [

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] and that happens to be Chōji's Nikudan Sensha. [

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] It will be even harder to break once Kabuto enhances it with Senjutsu and the enemy shouldn't be capable of approaching that spot due to Muki Tensei while enemies with the ability to absorb Chakra won't be capable of absorbing the dome due to the fact that Kabuto will keep on adding Senjutsu to it.

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So what are the Kages chances of coming out?

First they must know the weak spot

-Tsunade raw strength will not be enough boost by Senjutsu. Her chakra enhance strength gets rapidly absorb so that won't help her either.
-Ay lightening shroud gets absorbed, evening having the inferioir element it will just rapidly regenerate and construct again. Eventually he can hold his shrod to a Dome thats constantly draining chakra
-Gaara cannot grain up Sand to break through as commented through the exploilt, underground attempts is useless
-Mei: nothing
-Onoki: Jinton is his only option. This jutsu takes time and we know what happen to Naruto attempting to charge an attack there.

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- You wish he was.
- Mei is very useful against Kabuto.
- Sure Gaara can't do anything besides you know a sand Tsunami..
- As if others will let him...

Do you want me to mention that Kabuto will be literally f*cked up with the combination of Onoki + Ay V2 speed blitz , with Gaara using his sand to hold Kabuto down?

-Lol read it and weep (Spoiler)

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Sennin Mōdo Kabuto's Strenght and Immunity Analysis.​

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I have seen some comments in the base that only Toad Senjutsu shows "more evidence" that Strength boost is exclusive, but the fact is the Manga never implied that Sennin Mōdos have different Boost feats. During Naruto's training Fukasaku never excluded such a thing as he always implied natural energy in general, when speaking to Naruto. The only difference here is of course, the characteristics of entering this Mode. So the fact when you look at Naruto's training, this is what you can imply to what natural energy was able to do for Kabuto.

An example would be when Base Naruto had no such strength feat to lift up Giant boulders [

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] This implies that natural energy is what enables the character to get such a feat.

As soon as Naruto mastered natural energy, he was able to block a Summoning monster's attack [

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Kabuto has mastered Sennin Mōdo and Natural Energy so this applies to anyone who has mastered these this.

"The Addition" ​

Since Kabuto has access to Jirōbō's DNA he can also enable his strength, as long as he is exposed/present. Jirōbō's State 2 enabled him to have the strength to even lift up Chouji's Chō Baika no Jutsu. [

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] Depending on how much weight you think Chouji has, he is basically Summoning level of weight capacity.

Kabuto even noted that using the Curse Seal shouldn't be compared to a master of the art of a Sage. [

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] So having Jirōbō's DNA gatherdc with Sage Boost makes it a done deal that his strength makes him the most, physically strongest character in the series. Also, any physical contact with Jirōbō can even do this: [

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] Subjugating their opponet allows him to absorb chakra, much like the Sound ninja, Yoroi. [

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Kabuto doesn't need intel to dodge a jutsu. Kabuto can simply make Jirobo's short earthquake[

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]<--The range will be bigger and works better with Senjutsu and break the concentration, much like Onoki's partner did here[

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-Mei is not. Her Water Release gets controlled if in contact with Kabuto, Hidden Mist benefits Kabuto, Boil Release effects Kages and Kabuto liquifying to ease the corrosive gas. What else?

-Mentioning Gaara's Sand again? (Read SPOILER below)

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Muki Tesnsei is overpowered even if only controlling Inorganic material. Lets see how this jutsu works exactly.

This jutsu allows the user to control things that have no life functions by gifting them with some of their own life force, allowing the user to freely manipulate the substance according to their will.

Now since Kabuto can do this too all inorganic components, I can give you a list of Inorganic material which no one will read:

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Or I can list the important factors in Naruto-verse that Kabuto can freely manipulate.

First we have to notice the requirements in order to freely manipulate inogranic material.

f you notice here [

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], Kabuto clashed with metal here, an inorganic materiel, and was never affected by Muki Tensei. As soon as he drew back to perform the jutsu [

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], only the whole cave was manipulated [Keep note that Kabuto was only on one knee here, he his palm wasn't touching the ground]. This concludes that the jutsu only works for the last inorganic materiel he had touched, as you can see here [

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→ Step 1: Touch inorganic materiel. [

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→ Step 2: Weave the hand seal. [

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(Step 1 and 2 can be vise-versa)​

What are the important factors that he can freely manipulate? Well the 5 basic elements, metal and even sand can be part of his arsenal. As long as he is able to touch it, he can freely manipulate it after he weaves his hand signs.

And that is not all. Take a look at the jutsu's description again above. It states 'allowing the user to freely manipulate the substance according to their will' and furthermore, now take a look at Kabuto's statement when the jutsu was activate [

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→ What does this mean? According to Kabuto, the cave changed it's shape and then returned to it's normal shape after Sasuke used Amaterasu and according to the jutsu's description, the user can freely manipulate the substance according to their will. In other words, it can change shapes so Kabuto is capable of manipulating it to more shapes such as hands which can grab the enemy, snakes which can envelope the enemy, etc. so he doesn't have to manipulate them only to spikes.

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-AkatsukiChurch added the last point-​

-There nothing that can stop him from doing it.

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[End of Days]

First of all was that suppose to prove the Lava is faster then White Rage? I hope not since if your going by scans, the Dragon Entity can move away from the wave of lava , much like anybody who encounter it so far. Sasuke (if he didn't feel like tanking it), Karin, and Madara. Even being very unlikely to start a jutsu to attack a jutsu.

mei charges forward and then spews lava and keeps spewing it, it already covers a big enough area and that reduces its chances of getting away, if it still tries raikage punches the orb back to the lava

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and there isnt anywhere to run to as gaara's sand can swoop in from anywhere

Kabuto sense makes it impossible to land weighted body, Onoki coming in contact closer makes it easy for him to finish him off.

not on kabuto but on the objects brought to life by muki tensei

Kabuto's jutsu can work both defensive and offensive so Ay is not a problem.

Ay can punch a hole in wall and grounds and can effortlessly slice off hachibi horn, kabuto can be hurt and he would have to use oral rebirth if he gets sliced

he is a problem

Mei lava is a melting point that ends up drying up anyway so Muiki Tensei will not effect like Enton did. Tsunade doing that is pointless has it will leave her vulnerable and Kabuto can reconstruct it.

muki tensei brings things to life, its not controlling mindless things with chakra as kabuto himself says, the cave moved back on its own once it got damaged by enton, if he gets hurt by lava or gets destroyed by tsunade's strength it will move back on its own whether kabuto wants it or not

Not to mention that Manga Knowledge, doesnt show that they know Kabuto's Cave gives him an advantage.

they counter attacks when they see one

no answer for oonoki's jinton?

 

[Champ]

Jinton kills him

 

[Brother Numpsay]

mei charges forward and then spews lava and keeps spewing it, it already covers a big enough area and that reduces its chances of getting away, if it still tries raikage punches the orb back to the lava

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I already brought up part already...
1. Its unlikely she will attack a jutsu she has no idea what it does. The kages will go on a defense, not attack directly to a ninjutsu itself.
2. Since you want to skim through what I already cover. The Dragon Liquid is abnormal, meaning it should ease the melting point/heating capacity of Lava, thus protecting the orb. Orb explodes, gg.

and there isnt anywhere to run to as gaara's sand can swoop in from anywhere

Yea, the same that happen to Madara? Who didn't have SM senses? Kabuto will not have a problem. In fact as I mentions already, puts life into his own jutsu and controls it against him and the rest of the Kages.

not on kabuto but on the objects brought to life by muki tensei

I don't get this one. If he uses Muki Tensei on the Cave or Sand, Onoki will just add weights into Kabuto's jutsu? And therefore cannot control its weight, from the life he gave to it?

Ay can punch a hole in wall and grounds and can effortlessly slice off hachibi horn, kabuto can be hurt and he would have to use oral rebirth if he gets sliced


he is a problem

Read through all of post #39, someone brought this up and its unnecessary to copy and paste, making this post any bigger.

muki tensei brings things to life, its not controlling mindless things with chakra as kabuto himself says, the cave moved back on its own once it got damaged by enton, if he gets hurt by lava or gets destroyed by tsunade's strength it will move back on its own whether kabuto wants it or not

You took Kabuto's words out of context here. He never said he can't control things with chakra. He said "it's different than just controlling something with chakra". The context also never show Enton damaging Muki Tensei,

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. So once again Lava is not stooping it since it cools and Tsunade's punches are not doing sht lol.

they counter attacks when they see one

Right, but they don't directly attack ninjutsus.

no answer for oonoki's jinton?

Through out the whole thread I said this jutsu is the only threat. Which is why I made a premise to get rid of him first.

Jinton kills him

too bad it easily gets disrupt

 

[Champ]

You didn't show how, and from the manga nothing can block it aside from Obito's Juubi ball