Does Madara Stand A Chance Against The Shinobi Alliance?

[Flawž]

Does he have sealing techniques? if he does not then he need help to defeat him.

Hashirama carries a scroll of sealings.

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I'll have to disagree with you on this one. I do think that current Madara is capable of defeating Hashirama.​

I disagree.

It may seem that Edo Madara is superior to that of hashirama but that is greatly mistaken.

EMS madara had the kyuubi, A weopan that gave him immense fire power, Now that he no longer has the kyuubi, he lacks the fire power needed to stay in the same league as hashirama.

Rinnegan is useless against hashirama and madara's mokuton is subpar.

Nothing in Edo Madara's arsenal can counter shinsuusenju. Meotorites are caught with the Shinshuusenju and thrown back at him.

 

[Shura]

Having a cloak doesn't mean naruto is next to him.

Hashirama doesn't have a cloak without Naruto's help unless this is fanfiction Hashirama who has Kurama sealed inside of himself.​

 

[iNotorious]

Hashirama carries a scroll of sealings.

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I disagree.

It may seem that Edo Madara is superior to that of hashirama but that is greatly mistaken.

EMS madara had the kyuubi, A weopan that gave him immense fire power, Now that he no longer has the kyuubi, he lacks the fire power needed to stay in the same league as hashirama.

Rinnegan is useless against hashirama and madara's mokuton is subpar.

Nothing in Edo Madara's arsenal can counter shinsuusenju. Meotorites are caught with the Shinshuusenju and thrown back at him.

Well said, now i'ma go play battlefield 4.

Hashirama doesn't have a cloak without Naruto's help unless this is fanfiction Hashirama who has Kurama sealed inside of himself.​

Are you high?

 

[Madarauchihaedo]

Since Madara is still edo and have unlimited Chackra and has rennigane he can beat the alliance but with the help of the hokages Edo I think he still stand a chance, he has something up his sleeve he hasn't shown Amy signs of fear but he has shown signs of determination like he knows that he will get what he wants.

Remember we still haven't seen his trump card yet.

 

[Shura]

I disagree.

It may seem that Edo Madara is superior to that of hashirama but that is greatly mistaken.

EMS madara had the kyuubi, A weopan that gave him immense fire power, Now that he no longer has the kyuubi, he lacks the fire power needed to stay in the same league as hashirama.

Rinnegan is useless against hashirama and madara's mokuton is subpar.

Nothing in Edo Madara's arsenal can counter shinsuusenju. Meotorites are caught with the Shinshuusenju and thrown back at him.

I do believe that the Rinnegan would put Madara above Hashirama. The Rinnegan would give Madara the ability to fly [

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] which would allow him to escape the danger of the Shin Sūsenju since it's attacks are short ranged. More so, I don't remember Hashirama possessing an attack that would allow him to reach Madara who would be flying. Even if by some miracle the Mokuton hands or some other Mokuton based attack somehow manages to reach Madara, he could simply use Shinra Tensei to push the Mokuton from himself considering that Pein was capable of pushing even Bijū sized targets. [

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Furthermore, all Kuchiyose possess a weakness that would allow Madara to get rid of the Shin Sūsenju and that weakness happens to be a time limit [

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] which Madara could quite easily outlast considering that he would now be out of Hashirama's range thanks to the Rinnegan.

Frankly, I don't even consider Hashirama getting the time to enter Sennin Mōdo [

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] due to Madara being capable of abusing the Rinnegan techniques such as Shinra Tensei or Banshō Ten'in to keep Hashirama from gathering the natural energy. And if I remember correctly, even Hashirama's Sennin Mōdo has a time limit as well.​

Are you high?

You actually believe Hashirama has a cloak without Naruto giving it to him? Oh god.. :|​

 

[Transcendence]

A dubious situation. I am of the opinion that he'll succeed at impaling Hashirama and subsequently control him, to which he'll force Hashirama to fight Naruto and Sasuke will fight Madara. This is the advent in which Sasuke and Naruto surpass their predecessors. Seems appropriate and removes a massive chunk of power (the strongest character) from the alliance.

 

[Dooms88]

I think Madara will succeed in getting his trump card into action, probably taking out Hashi.

A good fight ensues, someone important dies, then after a good 10 chapters Madara is defeated.

40 page final chapter containing a short time skip to when Naruto is Hokage

/end manga and a huge chunk of my life

 

[Flawž]

I do believe that the Rinnegan would put Madara above Hashirama. The Rinnegan would give Madara the ability to fly [

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] which would allow him to escape the danger of the Shin Sūsenju since it's attacks are short ranged. More so, I don't remember Hashirama possessing an attack that would allow him to reach Madara who would be flying. Even if by some miracle the Mokuton hands or some other Mokuton based attack somehow manages to reach Madara, he could simply use Shinra Tensei to push the Mokuton from himself considering that Pein was capable of pushing even Bijū sized targets. [

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]

Furthermore, all Kuchiyose possess a weakness that would allow Madara to get rid of the Shin Sūsenju and that weakness happens to be a time limit [

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] which Madara could quite easily outlast considering that he would now be out of Hashirama's range thanks to the Rinnegan.

Frankly, I don't even consider Hashirama getting the time to enter Sennin Mōdo [

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] due to Madara being capable of abusing the Rinnegan techniques such as Shinra Tensei or Banshō Ten'in to keep Hashirama from gathering the natural energy. And if I remember correctly, even Hashirama's Sennin Mōdo has a time limit as well.​

Madara using Deva Path to Levitate would only postpone the inevitable outcome.

Sure madara can Levitate in the air, But don't forget he needs to be in close range to do any damage to hashirama excluding meteorites which are countered by Shinsuusenju.

He needs to be in close proximity to either use his PS or rinnegan paths. Shinrai tensei would counter a few mokuton creations, but don't forget hashirama grows mokuton every second. Senin mode hashirama with everything possibly enhanced is too much for madara.

Hashirama only needs to clap his hands and hes in sage mode.

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There is no proof that hashirama's Sage mode has a time limit if i remember correctly myself. hashirama came from the juubi himself. He posses the same mokuton the juubi does, Stating this. We could accurately predict that hashirama's sage mode is perfect and he can acquire as much energy as he needs without a time limit. Another feature to note is that hashirama sage mode has no defects indicating a perfect sage mode.

Again, As soon as hashirama summons shinsuusenju, it's basically over. Madara's strongest technique (PS) is useless against it. Metorites are caught leaving madara with shinrai tensei or Chibaku tensei which are easily countered by hashirama. Also the fact that those techniques take immense chakra to pull off even for an edo.

By feats, hashirama is the clear victor.

 

[Bronze]

Meteor > Shinsuusenju. I established that and i believe many members of the base right now agrees with me.

Feats, edo Madara > prime Hashirama/edo Hashirama.
Hype, edo Madara > prime Hashirama/edo Hashirama.

Therefore, edo Madara is was always > prime Hashirama/edo Hashirama.

 

[Flawž]

@AkatsukiChurch

No point in debating this.

To each, his own.

 

[KidGamer65]

@AC:Rinnegan doesn't give flight, it gives levitation, completely different. Rinnegan users can levitate but they will come back down. The only ones to have ever flown in this series are Onoki, Mu and Obito as the Juubi's Jin.

Shinsuusenju is not a summon, its a Ninjutsu.

Bansho Tennin and Shinra Tensei have 5 second time limits, gathering Nature Energy takes less for Hashirama.

 

[Rikudo Ero Sennin]

Madara Wins it

 

[Shura]

@AkatsukiChurch

No point in debating this.

To each, his own.

Actually, when I think about it, I'll give it to Hashirama more times than not. However, Madara still may win. I'm not really someone who has knowledge on Madara's capabilities since when it comes to the Uchiha, I'm more of an Itachi / Sasuke guy.​

 

[Raikiri808]

He's Madara, he ain't scared of shit

Real talk dudes a boss!