Naruto VS Sasuke

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Naruto will still have Kurama's chakra even if he sets it free. Gin and Kin did not have Kurama but they were able to use his Chakra.
If Naruto can't use Kurama then Sasuke can't use EMS because like it or not, EMS was given to him.
He was not born with those eyes therefore they are not his.
Without EMS, Naruto owns him


PAY attention to the thread and the manga

Naruto will not have his chakra.

The gold and silver brothers only had residual chakra in them they did not contain all of it.

So naruto will not contain it either.

And as stated in the thread this is a post war fight naruto will free kurama so he will not have its chakra.
 

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I never said he didn't earn the right to use it.

But,this is a fight after the war in which he has set the beast free.

Naruto is going to be using his own chakra for this fight not kurama's
i dont think that naruto can free kurama.
 

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nothing SM naruto has will even graze sasuke`s perfect susanoo.

sasuke doesn't have perfect suusanoo now lets try to ground ourselves in reality and stick with what sasuke actually has okay?
 

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kurama is just provided chakra naruto doesn't need the chakra for this fight it is a fight post war when naruto released all the beast i am not restricting naruto this is the fight as it will happen before the series ends so yes sasuke keeps his EMS its his KKG.

you think naruto will release kurama?

OT: depends does naruto improve gain anything new? Odama rasen shuriken would wreck sasuke but sasuke would have been training to improve aswell so you are restraining naruto unless he gets some secret sage jutsu or some shit like that
 

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sasuke doesn't have perfect suusanoo now lets try to ground ourselves in reality and stick with what sasuke actually has okay?

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it`s basically the same.

it is perfect susanoo enveloping kurama.even if it isnt perfect susanoo naruto`s FRS wont destroy final susanoo

my point is

naruto will need kurama for his final fight against sasuke so i dont think he is going to fight without kurama`s aid.they are meant to be equals which is only the case if naruto has kurama
 

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look at my sig and compare it to this

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it`s basically the same.

it is perfect susanoo enveloping kurama.even if it isnt perfect susanoo naruto`s FRS wont destroy final susanoo

my point is

naruto will need kurama for his final fight against sasuke so i dont think he is going to fight without kurama`s aid.they are meant to be equals which is only the case if naruto has kurama

actually its not ps is unstabilize version of final susanoo ems version it just looks like that when it covers the kyuubi perfect susanoo has stable chakra for the body and feather like on the wings
 

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I'll have to give this to Sasuke.

In his current state, he is capable of enveloping the field in Enton considering that he is capable of producing Bijū sized Amaterasu [ ] and Itachi in his 'sick' state already did something similiar to that. [ ] This would allow him to counter Naruto's speed. Due to being in a field full of Enton, Naruto won't be capable of moving freely anymore so Sasuke will be capable of hitting him with his attacks. Before I see someone claiming that Naruto can simply remove that Amaterasu from his body with some kind of tactic, no, in reality that won't happen. Amaterasu causes extreme pain to it's target. Bī trashed around like crazy from the pain and couldn't do anything while Obito fell of his feet from the pain even if it was only a second on him.

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Naruto won't be capable of doing anything due to extreme pain. After all, it is said that Amaterasu is hot as the Sun. Also, don't bring up the 'Amaterasu burns slowly' argument because when the user focuses his sight on the target, Amaterasu burns rather fast considering how fast Itachi burned throught a wall of flesh [ ] and how fast Itachi burned Sasuke's Katon.

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The Bijūdama could be viewed as a threat, however, Naruto needs to focus in order to gain the 8:2 raito he needs in order to create a Bijūdama. [ ] In this time, Sasuke can easily hit him with a Susano'o Arrow which are noted by their extreme speed [ ] or perhaps with Amaterasu which can only be avoided by someone who is as fast as Ay in his Bājon Tsū Raiton no Yoroi. [ ] Naruto can only use the Bijūdama if he is in his Kurama avatar which is rather big and in that state Naruto isn't fast anymore considering that Sasuke in his Bājon Surī legged Susano'o didn't really have trouble keeping up with him [ ] nor can he actually run around while trying to achieve the 8:2 ratio since he needs to focus. There is also the fact that Sasuke can supress Kurama in that time. [ ]

Even if by some miralce Naruto does indeed manage to charge up and fire off a few of them, Sasuke can easily produce an Enton Blade which would extend itself and allow Sasuke to pierce the Bijūdama causing it to explode and if there are multiple of them, the explosion of the first one will cause the other ones to explode as well. Lets not even mention how the Enton Blade could instead of piercing the Bijūdama slice it considering that it can slice throught something like rock rather easily.

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We also have to consider the fact that Sasuke's Pāfekuto Susano'o would be capable of tanking the Bijūdama just like Madara did with the Susano'o swords. [ ] There is also the fact that Sasuke's Bājon Surī legged Susano'o is as big as Kurama [ ] so Sasuke's Pāfekuto Susano'o would be much bigger than Naruto's Kurama considering that this time it won't be enveloping Kurama and it will be standing on it's own two feet. Now we have the shockwaves produced by the Pāfekuto Susano'o [ ] which Sasuke's own can produce considering that his Bājon Surī legged Susano'o was capable of producing a shockwave as well [ ] [Even though it wasn't as powerful as the Pāfekuto Susano'o's one] and then add the Enton's cutting power to that. Sasuke can also slap the Bijūdama away with the Susano'o shockwave or swords just like Naruto did with his Chakura Tail. [ ]

With that being said, Sasuke can counter the Bijūdama. Rasen Shuriken, like you yourself said, will be overcomed with Amaterasu. [ ] Or Susano'o can tank it considering that a Bājon Tsū Susano'o tanked something as powerful as Kirin [ ] which destroyed something as huge as the Uchiha hideout. [ ] Now before I see some nonsense about Sasuke being blitzed, no, that won't happen. Sasuke could keep up with Ay's speed with his Sharingan [ ][ ] and Naruto isn't that much faster than him. Furthermore, Sasuke's Shunshin isn't bad at all;

→ 1] The first feat I would like to bring up is in his battle against Deidara. In this scan, Deidara is just as big as Sasuke's head [ ] and then he suddenly appears in front of Deidara, shocking him without the latter even realizing when Sasuke made the move. [ ] He even commented on Sasuke's speed by stating ''He's fast!''.

→ 2] Sasuke is standing right bellow Deidara [ ] and then suddenly he appears behind him. [ ] Deidara has no idea when Sasuke got behind him and is shocked, barely escaping his attack.

→ 3] Sasuke and his team appear to be as big as the prisoner's arm [ ] and then Sasuke suddenly appears behind him while cutting his chest open and both Karin and Suigetsu now seem a little smaller than Sasuke's head. [ ] He covered such a distance in a blink of an eye.

→ 4] Deidara is forced to use Shī Tsū because he thinks that 'Sasuke's movements are definitely too fast'. [ ] Please look at Deidara's size and the Dragon's size. [ ] Now check out the size of the explosion. [ ] Sasuke escaped the explosion and Deidara comments on his speed once again, saying 'Damn, he's fast!'.

→ 5] Next, Sasuke appears to be half the size of Naruto's head. [ ] Same can be said for Naruto. [ ] Then suddenly Sasuke appears down, holding Naruto's shoulder and shocking him. [ ] Yamato comments on his speed. Sasuke covered such a distance in a flash [ ] while Sakura didn't even notice when he made the move given her comment. [ ]

→ 6] This may or may not be as impressive as the Shunshin feats above, but I'll still add it. Sasuke was capable of evading Bī's attack [ ] and Bī comments on how no one except Ēi was capable of avoiding Bī's attack.

→ 7] At the Kage Summit, Sasuke was capable of appearing in the meeting room and no one was capable of noticing it until he made a cut on one of the curtains which shocked those present in the room in that moment. [ ] Please note that he was fast enough to cut all three of the curtains in the room present at that time as well.

→ 8] You can see that Sasuke's head is almost as big as Sakura even though he is running. [ ] Both Sasuke and Naruto, who is in his Kyūbi Chakura Mōdo, are running towards Sakura to quickly reach her and then Sasuke suddenly appears next to her before Naruto does and Sakura is shocked given her '!'.

→ 9] Naruto is falling and Sasuke is no where in sight [Top panel] while Obito is trying to hit Naruto [ ], shocking him. And then suddenly out of no where, Sasuke appears and uses Susano'o to protect Naruto which in return shocked the latter. [ ]

→ 10] Sasuke and Itachi are on the other side of the cave, holding Kabuto's snakes. [ ] And then suddenly, Sasuke appears behind Kabuto and takes off his hood. [ ]

→ 11] Sasuke is standing and the Samurai are a few meters in front of him. [ ][ ] And then suddenly he appears behind the Samurai, making a clean cut and shocking the Samurai without us or anyone else even noticing when Sasuke made a single movement. [ ]

→ 12] Suigetsu and Juugo are a meter [Maybe less] from each other and are about to make their attack [ ] and then suddenly, Sasuke appears between them, restricting their movements. [ ]

Clones will be dealt with the Enton Yasaka Magatama which was created in order to get rid of clones [ ] and they won't even be able to move freely due to Enton being spread over the battlefield. Now, let's not forget how the Bijū Mōdo has a time limit which Sasuke himself can easily outlast.

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Please remember that this is only my opinion. Thank you.​

naruto can damage sasuke susanoo with chakra shockwave... sasuke not have counter jutsu for this.

The Bājon Tsū Susano'o was capable of tanking something as powerful as Kirin [ ] which managed to completely destroy something as huge as the Uchiha hideout [ ] and Kirin itself could be compared to Deidara's Shī Surī [Even though the Shī Surī is indeed superior].

Sasuke stated that his Susano'o is a better defense than Gaara's Suna. [ ] That won't even put a scratch on the Bājon Fō Susano'o.​

speed blitz mini bijuu dama to the face

As far as we know, this isn't powerful at all. It won't even put a scratch on the Bājon Wan Susano'o since the Susano'o ribcage alone managed to tank something like Ay's Raigā Bomu. [ ]​
 
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I doubt Naruto will release Kurama, if you look at their attacks, they are built to perfectly counter each other.

Actually I think the only reason the Uchiha even have Susanoo was to give Sasuke a counter to Naruto's 9 tails cloak.

Naruto and Sasuke perfectly counter each other in many ways, for instance the 9 tails can release Naruto from any Genjutsu, Sasuke's Sharingan will help him keep up with BM Naruto's speed, and Naruto's speed allows him to dodge Amaterasu.
 

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actually its not ps is unstabilize version of final susanoo ems version it just looks like that when it covers the kyuubi perfect susanoo has stable chakra for the body and feather like on the wings

People still think that it's not the Pāfekuto Susano'o? Seriously? It looks exactly like the Pāfekuto Susano'o;

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Shoulder Guards, Nose, Armor are all exactly the same.

Sasuke stated that this is like what Madara did in the past and Hashirama immediately recognized it.

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It's clearly the Pāfekuto Susano'o. End of story.​
 

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People still think Sasuke doesn't have PS?
 

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So Kurama is no longer sealed into Naruto.. Huh. Sasuke rapes.
@AC: don't even waste your time trying to show juzumaki that's Perfect Susano'o. From the several times I have seen him post it seems like he is a Sasuke hater.
 

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So Kurama is no longer sealed into Naruto.. Huh. Sasuke rapes.

lol I didn't even notice that. I made a long ass post as to why EMS Sasuke > BSM Naruto. Shit.. My bad. xD​
 

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lol I didn't even notice that. I made a long ass post as to why EMS Sasuke > BSM Naruto. Shit.. My bad. xD​

Yeah, haha. I was wondering why you did that, but still nice post.
 

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Nice idea, but you can't ignore the FACT that without kurama Sasuke would rape naruto. I can't believe that you think Naruto is going to be weaker than he currently is in their final fight. Sage mode isnot enough to content with Sasuke. Without kurama Naruto would lose almost instantly due to genjustu.
 

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Tell me how did you figure that he will not have Kurama in their final fight?
 

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Dude saysnaruto has to use own power but lets sasuke keep borrowed eyes. Clearly a fanboy. And get it straight narutos intentions were to have the same relationship with kurama as bee and 8 tails. Theres no releasing kurama fanboy get over it. Naruto rapes sasuke mid diff
 

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I don't think Kurama will be involved in the final battle between the two either U_U

I think it would take away from the intensity of the battle if Kurama was in the fight. But if that's the case, Naruto will need an increased Sage Mode to hang with the EMS.
 
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