[Predictions] Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

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The dark figure can be Zetsu

the only reason i say this is because i was wondering y would sasuke grin or laugh when white zetsu left and then all of a sudden his eyes turned like or even worse then garra .........

(the eyes thing of sasuke is a mess up by Kishi the author....my readson i say this is because in page 9 or 8 he forget to draw Kaskshi scar on his eye)
Yes i see what you mean, Gaara was possessed by a demon that chakra was to powerful for him, having effect on is face and emotion. Zetsu's possessing chakra maybe have the same effect on Sasuke.

Naruto got so many detail for controversy hehe...
 

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he did not believed for his whole life, remember he kept fighting after losing yahiko, but i guess twisted by the madaras way of explaining how he can change the things around him using how power.
OK, not all his life, but most of his life. We are suggested the incident between Nagato's group and Danzou took place just a few years after Jiraiya trained them. I really think it was both the war and the Danzou incident that twisted his mind. Even if Madara had not reached him afterwards.

Oh, it is also very unrealistic to think that the real Pain, who had killed his sensei without caring about former feelings towards him, would believe in Naruto so quickly. And when Pain believed his own methods to be the best.
 

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Hi, here is my analysis from the last episode (460).

The dark figure is none other than Dark side Zetsu. Here are the evidence i've found:



red: Look at the eyes, they are really similar. There is 2 in this image because its not physical Dark Side Zetsu, its his chakra (detected by Karin).
I'll show you with a pic why I don't think it's Zetzu:

This creature does not have two different eyes, we are just seeing its head in perspective. It's looking to one side, I show that with red lines: it's head is looking downwards and partially to our left side.

And if were only dark Zetsu, it should only have one eye.

Another thing is that many see 6 fingers, and you Zetzu's "leaves", and I think that's a wrong view. The creature is opening 2 hands like it was holding a bowl, and probably has 4-fingered hands, the 4th finger would be like our thumbs, and be going in Sasuke's direction now.

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I think that we will see some new move from sasuke in this fight with raikage.... in chapter 453 page 16, sasuke says "there's something I've been wanting to test out anyways" I'm thinking that we are going to see a new ms technique from sasuke.... meaning itachi's susano or a totally original move from sasuke....

I have a question that has been bothering me for a while now and I was hoping to get your guys thoughts. When any Uchiha awakens the Mangekyo Sharingan do they recieve the same three abilities? So would it be safe to say that when madara awoke his he was able to use susano, tsukoyomi, and ameratsu, then when he got the eternal ms he was able to use the space time ninjutsu also?
 

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Hi, here is my analysis from the last episode (460).

The dark figure is none other than Dark side Zetsu. Here are the evidence i've found:



red: Look at the eyes, they are really similar. There is 2 in this image because its not physical Dark Side Zetsu, its his chakra (detected by Karin). I see Zetsu as 2 part (like the sound nin Sakun and Ukon) but with a major difference. When they split they dont look full (see the manga image with the yellow circle). While detected the chakra would look like a full human body.

blue: Those ?tails? would be the shape of Zetsu's flower. Some thinks its a hand, but hands doesnt have 6 fingers. Sasuke in the middle of the flower would symbolize the fact that he is possessed. I'm not into the ?dark chakra fuelled by all the hatred? because we never saw that in Naruto, and there was alot of hate fueled ninja during all the episodes (exemple: pain).

yellow: Still, its a chakra form, but i think Zetsu's teeth are similar as Suigetsu's, pointy teeth. In the blurry chakra form possessing Sasuke, i think its plausible to think that Dark Zetsu as that kind of grin.

We dont know Zetsu at all. No jutsu is known (beside the transport one), so im sure he can possess people just like my theory explained. Karin saw a dark colder chakra in Sasuke. Dark Zetsu looks like the worst badass, cold hearted, cannibalistic etc... Sasuke was never clearly evil before, so he could have had a normal chakra. He never killed when he wasnt forced to, but now with the addition of the possession by Zetsu is action are turning evil.

Why Zetsu would have to possess Sasuke ? To make him unforgivable. Sasuke would never killed an innocent (Danzo isnt innocent). Now that he looks like a cold blooded murderer (killing neutral foes), other country (and surely the Fire Country) will really want to stop him. Who will be left on is side, filthy Tobi-Madara, who will use him to sync with Gedo Mazo.

Tobi is talking with Naruto to make him loose time (to prevent the heart changing speech on Sasuke) and to let Sasuke fall deeper in the darkness in the eyes of everyone else. That or Tobi will try to make Naruto change is mind on Sasuke. But that won't happen because Naruto will never back down on is word (thats is ninja way !!!).

Then there is the cursed seal theory. I don't think it was anything to have with the dark chakra. The fact that Juggo seems to know what is happening is maybe because of the transplanted flesh on Sasuke. He can feel the dark chakra from Zetsu, but isnt possessed because he isnt engulfed in it.

Well for now i think its enough...
LoL! xd I cant believe you went thru all that... this is stupid, really. I hate to do this but it really is. I wonder how many others think that too? LoL! xd How the hell is Zetsu Sasukes chakra? You know with how many character in the Naruto world I could do the samething that you just did with these pictures?... its just Kishi's style of art; its his style and similarities will appear alot. Thats just a typical style for dipicting that the character or thing is "evil". Bad = sharp teeth and bugged out eyes dude.

But if your just sayin that they look alike AND THATS ALL... then yeah... They do look alike.

&FYI: I just looked at the picture and red like the first couple of words and was like "im not wasting my time readin this"... I know I know... go 'head and tell me to "read the whole thing before you post sumthin"... but you know what?... nah... nuh uh... not this time. This is ridiculous LoL! xd

This is funny to me xd
 
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I'll show you with a pic why I don't think it's Zetzu:

This creature does not have two different eyes, we are just seeing its head in perspective. It's looking to one side, I show that with red lines: it's head is looking downwards and partially to our left side.

And if were only dark Zetsu, it should only have one eye.

Another thing is that many see 6 fingers, and you Zetzu's "leaves", and I think that's a wrong view. The creature is opening 2 hands like it was holding a bowl, and probably has 4-fingered hands, the 4th finger would be like our thumbs, and be going in Sasuke's direction now.

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Now i remember it! It's from the early episodes. This is.. Sasuke's CursedSealMark-Evil-Chakra. Those 2 hands they always resembled the Wings from the Cursed Seal Mark. When Sasuke fought Naruto at the Canyon of the End? He also had such a thing and u saw a thing similar to this when he showed his wings to us for the first time. I must admit it looks like the Kyuubi but those hands Sasuke stands on are his wings!

Edit: Maybe it's connected with his Mangekyou Sharingan since it took away his cursed seal, it doesn't mean he lost his powers to awaken that stuff of Wings! It's only what they think, it's not stated yet. Because how does Sasuke immediately know his powers.. i'm sure he still has to learn them!
 

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Now i remember it! It's from the early episodes. This is.. Sasuke's CursedSealMark-Evil-Chakra. Those 2 hands they always resembled the Wings from the Cursed Seal Mark. When Sasuke fought Naruto at the Canyon of the End? He also had such a thing and u saw a thing similar to this when he showed his wings to us for the first time. I must admit it looks like the Kyuubi but those hands Sasuke stands on are his wings!

Edit: Maybe it's connected with his Mangekyou Sharingan since it took away his cursed seal, it doesn't mean he lost his powers to awaken that stuff of Wings! It's only what they think, it's not stated yet. Because how does Sasuke immediately know his powers.. i'm sure he still has to learn them!
That shadow IS TENGU-DEMON or (9 tailed beast dark side) like the scroll y man give tsunade.
Or Sasuke just live Naruto shadow and now really mad :D
Or thiis power that Yuggo give Sasuke is another CS
 
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Hi and thanks ;) .

OK, no author is perfect and there can always be a weak spot, but I'm finding too much lately. Even if it was not logical, I did like Zetsu suddenly appeating, but expected something more logical after that.
I don't find it logical for Nagato's beliefs to be shaken in less than 15 minutes after a whole life of believing only in himself.

Peace anyway. People can think differently.

Oh, and thanks to moderatos for coming back to the white screens, the black ones were so confusing.


i see what you mean

I can only think of one reason to kishi do something like this, the reason is naruto's misterious power. I mean perhaps it was really impossible to change nagato's beliefs but naruto has that thing, that feeling which surround us and makes want to follow him, to believe him. we must see that even nagato only take naruto's opinion into consideration because he was strong enough to beat the crap out of him.

Anyway i see what you are saying, and i also feel that way in some other issues :naruto:


i really don't know what to think of sasuke now, is really confusing, for someone who didn't want to follow his brother path, and be a murderer, suddendly starts killing samurai, i just wish to know tobi's purpose, i mean, what could he possible gain from sasuke attacking the kages~??!!! was to distract them?? drive their attention only to sasuke when tobi is acting in the shadows??? so confusing.

Man i would love to see tsunade appear and punch danzo in the face
 
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LoL! xd I cant believe you went thru all that... this is stupid, really. I hate to do this but it really is. I wonder how many others think that too? LoL! xd How the hell is Zetsu Sasukes chakra? You know with how many character in the Naruto world I could do the samething that you just did with these pictures?... its just Kishi's style of art; its his style and similarities will appear alot. Thats just a typical style for dipicting that the character or thing is "evil". Bad = sharp teeth and bugged out eyes dude.

But if your just sayin that they look alike AND THATS ALL... then yeah... They do look alike.

&FYI: I just looked at the picture and red like the first couple of words and was like "im not wasting my time readin this"... I know I know... go 'head and tell me to "read the whole thing before you post sumthin"... but you know what?... nah... nuh uh... not this time. This is ridiculous LoL! xd

This is funny to me xd

I really like your arguments, it's rich, well detailed, complete, yeah I like it. No really no, i'm just having fun with opinion and don't need answer like that :) thx...

btw read the complete thing before posting sumthin :D.
 
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I'll show you with a pic why I don't think it's Zetzu:

This creature does not have two different eyes, we are just seeing its head in perspective. It's looking to one side, I show that with red lines: it's head is looking downwards and partially to our left side.

And if were only dark Zetsu, it should only have one eye.

Another thing is that many see 6 fingers, and you Zetzu's "leaves", and I think that's a wrong view. The creature is opening 2 hands like it was holding a bowl, and probably has 4-fingered hands, the 4th finger would be like our thumbs, and be going in Sasuke's direction now.

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That is a nice counter-analysis. It could be hands forming a bowl, but it would again be something that possess Sasuke in my opinion. Sasuke was always emotion less (beside sadness), anger isnt is cup of tea now that he have matured (in naruto part one, naruto was able to make him angry alot).

For the 2 eyes thing, you are right that dark Zetsu can only have one eye, but as i said, if its his chakra, maybe it's representation have 2 eyes like one person ! I think i've explained that in my long text.

btw, Those who need to comment on my text just to say it's stupid like some people did, its really useless. We are just having fun lol.
 
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Now i remember it! It's from the early episodes. This is.. Sasuke's CursedSealMark-Evil-Chakra. Those 2 hands they always resembled the Wings from the Cursed Seal Mark. When Sasuke fought Naruto at the Canyon of the End? He also had such a thing and u saw a thing similar to this when he showed his wings to us for the first time. I must admit it looks like the Kyuubi but those hands Sasuke stands on are his wings!

Edit: Maybe it's connected with his Mangekyou Sharingan since it took away his cursed seal, it doesn't mean he lost his powers to awaken that stuff of Wings! It's only what they think, it's not stated yet. Because how does Sasuke immediately know his powers.. i'm sure he still has to learn them!
I like your idea, maybe it's related !

It will be nice to see if we get an answer next week !
 

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Now i remember it! It's from the early episodes. This is.. Sasuke's CursedSealMark-Evil-Chakra. Those 2 hands they always resembled the Wings from the Cursed Seal Mark. When Sasuke fought Naruto at the Canyon of the End? He also had such a thing and u saw a thing similar to this when he showed his wings to us for the first time. I must admit it looks like the Kyuubi but those hands Sasuke stands on are his wings!

Edit: Maybe it's connected with his Mangekyou Sharingan since it took away his cursed seal, it doesn't mean he lost his powers to awaken that stuff of Wings! It's only what they think, it's not stated yet. Because how does Sasuke immediately know his powers.. i'm sure he still has to learn them!
they do sorta look like his wings but really i think all that beast is just to show that sasuke is lost in darkness and the thing holding sasuke is like "the essence of evil", or "madness or chaos things like that its nothing really its just to show us readers how far he has sunken. and to shows basically he is insane. i could be wrong true but i have a feelings there nothing to it really.
 
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Now i remember it! It's from the early episodes. This is.. Sasuke's CursedSealMark-Evil-Chakra. Those 2 hands they always resembled the Wings from the Cursed Seal Mark. When Sasuke fought Naruto at the Canyon of the End? He also had such a thing and u saw a thing similar to this when he showed his wings to us for the first time. I must admit it looks like the Kyuubi but those hands Sasuke stands on are his wings!

Edit: Maybe it's connected with his Mangekyou Sharingan since it took away his cursed seal, it doesn't mean he lost his powers to awaken that stuff of Wings! It's only what they think, it's not stated yet. Because how does Sasuke immediately know his powers.. i'm sure he still has to learn them!
Mangekyou Sharingan DIDnot take away the cursed seal.... the sealed mark was a part of Orochimaru ...... & Itachi sealed away that part of orochimaru during his fight with saske....
 
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Been a while since ive posted here...... The manga finally seems to be piking up pace for an epic climax!!!!!!!!!! :):)

On a side NOTE WHO DO U THINK WILL WHOOP ASS.... RAINKAGE OR SASKE???????
 
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