How Kakashi handles Shisuusenju/possible counters

[GrayParadise]

Excuse me if the title is spelled but moving on, just a few things he could do.

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METHOD 1: KAMUI ESCAPE

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Kakashi uses Kamui on himself to avoid the hits and waits until it disappears to come back.

COUNTER

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No counter.

METHOD 2: MIND KAMUI

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Kamui Hashirama, the mind of the tech and you're left with a generic statue with no orders.

COUNTER

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No counter. The requirements to dodge Kamui are FTG/Aye tier speed, or a competing ability to kamui, which Hashirama lacks.

METHOD 3: CHIDORI IMMOBILIZATION STORM

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Assuming he starts the battle with 100% chakra, he creates 20-30 clones and have them all combine hands with Chidori. This will create a cloud of thunder immobilizing anything that gets too close through shock, which will act as somewhat of a 'force field'.

COUNTER

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Overwhelming the range of this cloud by launching all 1,000 hands at once through different angles. And not really a coutner, but as a drawback Kakashi won't be able to hold up this cloud for long.

METHOD 4: MOLE TECHNIQUE

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Kakashi uses hiding like a mole technique to dive deep, deep into earth to a point he will not be effected by Shisuusenju. His options are to either hide under the ground until the coast is clear through sensing skills, or dig to a safe location.

COUNTER

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Depends on how determined Hashirama is about getting to him really. Ravishing into the ground won't get him to reach how deep Kakashi is, though he could attempt throwing a few fists at the ground. But by then Kakashi may already have traveled to a different area and he'll just be swinging at the dirt.

Those are all the ways I can think of for now. Not meant to be a huge ground breaking thread or anything, but just something off the top of my head. Hope you like

 

[Aya San]

Not sure if Kakashi can even see Hashi to kamui him. Let just say the Buddha is very tall

 

[AlphaScythian]

escaping shinsu isnt countering it. Kakashi cant beat that

 

[Joon]

Most likely he would be crushed by Shisuusenju. :|

 

[Cursed Prince]

Method 3&4 arent valid at all Lol

If Hashirama activates it its all over, he cant really see hashirama since its so big. He could dodge it but thats about it.

 

[MeGusta]

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[Javaweb]

The solo king I think he could use this on Hashirama

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To stun him and strike

 

[The Sach]

Method-1
And what he is going to do in Kamui dimension, play cards??
Method-2
One can't simply Kamui Hashi, Hashi will bring Shisuusenju between them, Kakashi will Kamui it and die due to lack of chakra.
Method-3
Don't underestimate Hashi's speed, he will dodge it.
Method-4
If zetsu can go underground Hashi's wood can, certainly can.

 

[GrayParadise]

Method 3&4 arent valid at all

If Hashirama activates it its all over, he cant really see hashirama since its so big. He could dodge it but thats about it.

Just because there are counters to a method doesn't make it invalid.
And how is it 'all over' if there are methods of saving yourself? :|

escaping shinsu isnt countering it. Kakashi cant beat that

I never said Kakashi could counter it, I said he could handle it.

Not sure if Kakashi can even see Hashi to kamui him. Let just say the Buddha is very tall

From Madara's height he saw just what he needed to to counter his movements, so I believe Sharingan can see it.

 

[Cursed Prince]

Just because there are counters to a method doesn't make it invalid.
And how is it 'all over' if there are methods of saving yourself? :|

I never said Kakashi could counter it, I said he could handle it.

From Madara's height he saw just what he needed to to counter his movements, so I believe Sharingan can see it.

wth you confusing me :|

Im saying 3&4 wont work, shinsu will destroy almost everything and that lightning wont stop it

I mean if Hashi activate Shusii He cant be beaten by Kakashi. Everything after that is fair game

 

[GrayParadise]

Method-1
And what he is going to do in Kamui dimension, play cards??
Irrelevant

Method-2
One can't simply Kamui Hashi, Hashi will bring Shisuusenju between them, Kakashi will Kamui it and die due to lack of chakra.
He won't be able to dodge or defend against Kamui, it's too quick for him. All he has to do is look and it's od.

Method-3
Don't underestimate Hashi's speed, he will dodge it.
...Which is exactly why I made a 'counter' spoiler

Method-4
If zetsu can go underground Hashi's wood can, certainly can.
Zetsu can multiply into millions but Hashirama can't so you're assuming he can do that which you have no proof of

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[Multiply]

Kakashi can't physically beat shinsusenju by himself A good effort though XD

 

[Filo]

Maybe he could try to kamui part of the actual statue itself. He did transport the 8 tails completely

 

[The Sach]

Responses in bold

Method-1
The method itself is irrelevant.
Method-2
I never said Kamui is slow, I just said he will bring 'already summoned shissusenju' between them, it takes very less time to control your summon, at least less than what it will take for Kamui to reach Hashi(Hashi is in long range, mind you)
Method-4
But Hashi can use wood dragon, so he can bring out Kakashi for sure.:yeah:

 

[Raekwon26]

Maybe he could try to kamui part of the actual statue itself. He did transport the 8 tails completely

-With Kyuubi chakra.

Don't forget to leave that off.

 

[Thecrow8]

kakashi is good but not that good! to fight hashirama the god of ninja like orochimaru himself called him and even madara uchiha has trouble handling the first just what makes u think kakashi can? i mean ur theory okay but we still dont know the real extent of hashiramas true power! thats all.

 

[GrayParadise]

-With Kyuubi chakra.

Don't forget to leave that off.

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tell me were u c koobi chakra

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Method-1
The method itself is irrelevant.
It is a method of which Kakashi would use to save himself from dying in the face of Shis., in a thread about how he can save himself from dying from Shis. Not irrelevant lol
how are you going to come in my thread that I made and tell me whats irrelevant and whats not lol?

Method-2
I never said Kamui is slow, I just said he will bring 'already summoned shissusenju' between them, it takes very less time to control your summon, at least less than what it will take for Kamui to reach Hashi(Hashi is in long range, mind you)
...and you're still going to assume Hashirama has the reflexes to counter kamui which he doesn't
not arguing with this point anymore lel

Method-4
But Hashi can use wood dragon, so he can bring out Kakashi for sure.:yeah:
this thread is not about Kakashi VS Hashirama all techs considered, it's about how Kakashi saves himself from Shis. Nothing to do with wood dragon.

i don't understand these kind of threads... is useless as always :|

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Kakashi can't physically beat shinsusenju by himself A good effort though XD

You didnt read the thread at all

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[KingHashirama]

Buddha is a mere statue... it needs Hashirama to power it up.. lol. You can't counter something that doesn't do anything..

Now if you are referring to Hashirama controlling the buddha.. then sir, its a whole different scenario.

 

[minatofan234]

lolz are u forgetting hashi has sage made? he would simply dodge kamui with his enhanced speed and reflexis which he already has quite high since he was able to fight hand to hand with madara who has sharingan and we've seen madara speed in base mode, so if madara could barely keep up with hashi with sharingan that alone lets us know base hashiramas reflexis let alone enhancing it with sage mode, and is every one forgetting that hashi could just make giant roots grow from the ground and kill kakashi or just use some earth jutsu since the requirments for wood style are earth and water combined so there are so many ways that hashi can kill kakashi.




EDIT: oh its only against shis..... ok but still if kakashi goes underground hashi can still make giant roots grow from it to kill him

 

[Raekwon26]

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tell me were u c koobi chakra

No one could be this stupid right?

You just posted a scan that showed him using Kamui on the 8 tails AFTER Kurama had given him chakra?

Wow, just wow. Log off, that was just bad.